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Gordon March 5th 06 05:01 PM

AIS receiver
 
Anybody have any experience with the SR161 AIS receiver from Milltech
marine?
Seems reasonably priced.
Gordon
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Paul March 11th 06 05:03 AM

AIS receiver
 

"Paul" wrote in message
...

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Anybody have any experience with the SR161 AIS receiver from Milltech
marine?


I just got one, and it is running on my desk as I type. It is in a metal
box, similar to the NASA plastic box unit (or maybe a little smaller), and
it seems to have similar sensitivity. My location is on a ridgetop a few
miles from the ocean, at about 1000ft elevation, and with an 8ft VHF whip
antenna I can receive out to about 40 miles max. I haven't taken the box
apart yet.
[etc]


The range is actually better than 40 miles, I discovered. My computer is
pretty close to the antenna, and must be putting out significant R.F. noise.
I've been able to receive beyond 60 miles when the computer is off. This is
hardly a scientific sensitivity test, though. I'm using a PocketPC to
decode the NMEA data from the SR161, and the PPC puts out less noise than
the PC.
-Paul



Daniele Fua March 13th 06 04:36 PM

AIS receiver
 
Paul wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message
...

"Gordon" wrote in message
...

Anybody have any experience with the SR161 AIS receiver from Milltech
marine?


I just got one, and it is running on my desk as I type. It is in a metal
box, similar to the NASA plastic box unit (or maybe a little smaller), and
it seems to have similar sensitivity. My location is on a ridgetop a few
miles from the ocean, at about 1000ft elevation, and with an 8ft VHF whip
antenna I can receive out to about 40 miles max. I haven't taken the box
apart yet.
[etc]



The range is actually better than 40 miles, I discovered. My computer is
pretty close to the antenna, and must be putting out significant R.F. noise.
I've been able to receive beyond 60 miles when the computer is off. This is
hardly a scientific sensitivity test, though. I'm using a PocketPC to
decode the NMEA data from the SR161, and the PPC puts out less noise than
the PC.
-Paul



I am quite interested in this topic but I have a question: isn't the AIS
system meant to rely on transponders, i.e. on Transmitters/Responders?
If so, a plain receiver like the one you write about is bound to receive
the information only from the vessels that were "excited" by someone
else. Is it so?

Daniel

Peter Bennett March 13th 06 06:22 PM

AIS receiver
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:36:32 GMT, Daniele Fua
wrote:


I am quite interested in this topic but I have a question: isn't the AIS
system meant to rely on transponders, i.e. on Transmitters/Responders?
If so, a plain receiver like the one you write about is bound to receive
the information only from the vessels that were "excited" by someone
else. Is it so?

Daniel


Vessels underway transmit their position, heading and speed every
second or so, depending on speed, and full data every six minutes.

They do not wait until interrogated.


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Paul March 13th 06 09:23 PM

AIS receiver
 

"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:36:32 GMT, Daniele Fua
wrote:


I am quite interested in this topic but I have a question: isn't the AIS
system meant to rely on transponders, i.e. on Transmitters/Responders?
If so, a plain receiver like the one you write about is bound to receive
the information only from the vessels that were "excited" by someone
else. Is it so?

Daniel


Vessels underway transmit their position, heading and speed every
second or so, depending on speed, and full data every six minutes.

They do not wait until interrogated.


This is correct. The transmitters are indeed transponders, though, since
they have the capability of responding to a specific interrogation, and they
participate in the coordination of the timeslotted transmissions from all
local transmitters.

The receive-only units are much simpler, as they only have to listen.

-Paul



Pascal March 14th 06 12:08 AM

AIS receiver
 
Have you seen the SR260/SR261 from Smart Radio? It is a
receiver/transmiter, but not a "full AIS Class A/B" and do not have
oifical homologation yet, but can save lives.. I am waiting the AIS
support on Garmin chart ploters (pheraps this month?) to buy a complete
package (AIS receiver/transmiter, user friendly low 12V consumer, color
Gps/Chart/Ploter, not a laptop PC).


Brent Geery March 14th 06 09:14 AM

AIS receiver
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:49:59 -0500, Larry wrote:

While an AIS receiver is a great toy at this time, I'd wait until the
yachtie versions of the full AIS transmitter/receiver/display units come
down in price to something reasonable and buy that, instead. Just
receiving will do you no good when you're at sea and the containership is
bearing down on you at 15 knots. Having the transmitter makes you stand
out just as big as the next 950' containership!


Don't be foolish. Although future affordable class-B transponders
will be great, currently available cheap receive-only units are still
great assets. Detecting the big ships 20-40 miles out, and having
accurate collision warning is very valuable. Not to mention the ship
name and MMSI number making radio contact easier and more likely to be
successful.

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Paul March 14th 06 03:57 PM

AIS receiver
 

"Brent Geery" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:49:59 -0500, Larry wrote:

While an AIS receiver is a great toy at this time, I'd wait until the
yachtie versions of the full AIS transmitter/receiver/display units come
down in price to something reasonable and buy that, instead. Just
receiving will do you no good when you're at sea and the containership is
bearing down on you at 15 knots. Having the transmitter makes you stand
out just as big as the next 950' containership!


Don't be foolish. Although future affordable class-B transponders
will be great, currently available cheap receive-only units are still
great assets. Detecting the big ships 20-40 miles out, and having
accurate collision warning is very valuable. Not to mention the ship
name and MMSI number making radio contact easier and more likely to be
successful.


Agreed, a receive-only collision alarm is *much* better than nothing. Even
though the big ships will be much more likely to notice you by AIS than by
radar (if you have an AIS transponder), my plan is to assume they don't see
me and stay out of their way. For the other smaller boats with receive-only
units, having a transponder is obviously a better choice. Of course, many
smaller boats will have no AIS at all.

While I am waiting for the class-B "yacht" transponder, I will definitely
have the receive-only unit on-board. Regardless, you still need to keep a
visual/radar watch going.

The SeaLinks RADARPLUS SL162B transponder may be the ticket, but I don't
think it has been released for sale yet.

-Paul



Larry March 15th 06 01:06 PM

AIS receiver
 
"Pascal" wrote in news:1142294909.882724.90990
@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

Have you seen the SR260/SR261 from Smart Radio? It is a
receiver/transmiter, but not a "full AIS Class A/B" and do not have
oifical homologation yet, but can save lives.. I am waiting the AIS
support on Garmin chart ploters (pheraps this month?) to buy a complete
package (AIS receiver/transmiter, user friendly low 12V consumer, color
Gps/Chart/Ploter, not a laptop PC).



No, haven't investigated that one. Got a webpage address?


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