Waterproof Screens
 

Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable, waterproof
screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want to be able to
see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the chart table.
Thanks

Phil

Waterproof Screens
 

Phil Stanton wrote:

Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable, waterproof
screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want to be able to
see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the chart table.
Thanks


A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here
are a few:

http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
http://www.nauticomp.com/
http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp

To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone
that says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not
been there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
interface device)..." has not tried it yet.

I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good
one yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart
plotter. For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

Waterproof Screens
 

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:59:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
wrote:

For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.

====================================

That's probably true if you are talking about a marine waterproof
display, although I prefer to have both. With the price of small, 15
inch, flat panel displays now down into the $200 range you can use one
of those, protect it reasonably well, and take your chances without
risking a king's ransom. I have an ordinary 15 inch flat panel which
has now survived 5 years on two different boats. I protect it (when
necessary) with one of those large platic envelopes that Maptech sells
to protect their chartbooks. Brightness is reasonably good, although
not as good as my Furuno chart plotter, it is brighter than most
laptop screens. I think if you mounted one on a pivot arm you could
probably use it either at the nav station or in the companionway area.

Waterproof Screens
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:59:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
wrote:

For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.

====================================

That's probably true if you are talking about a marine waterproof
display, although I prefer to have both. With the price of small, 15
inch, flat panel displays now down into the $200 range you can use one
of those, protect it reasonably well, and take your chances without
risking a king's ransom. I have an ordinary 15 inch flat panel which
has now survived 5 years on two different boats. I protect it (when
necessary) with one of those large platic envelopes that Maptech sells
to protect their chartbooks. Brightness is reasonably good, although
not as good as my Furuno chart plotter, it is brighter than most
laptop screens. I think if you mounted one on a pivot arm you could
probably use it either at the nav station or in the companionway area.

There has been some discussion on the ssca forum recently about laptops
vs chartplotters. On fellow commented that he tried a 15 inch LCD
screen at the helm but found it too bright at night. He could not dim
it enough. What has been your experience?

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On 30 Dec 2005 21:08:32 -0800, wrote:

On fellow commented that he tried a 15 inch LCD
screen at the helm but found it too bright at night. He could not dim
it enough. What has been your experience?

I have the same issue. At night I switch back to using just the
laptop screen which is dimmer, and close the cover when I don't need
to see it. I have the advantage of also having a fairly nice Furuno
chart plotter which dims down to very reasonable levels.

The advantage of having both is that I prefer the route planning and
tracking on the Maptech OSN software, and it gives a better wide angle
perspective in conventional raster mode. The Furuno is ideal for
going one waypoint to another and zooming in for good detail. It also
integrates nicely with the RADAR.

Waterproof Screens
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:59:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
wrote:

For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.

====================================

That's probably true if you are talking about a marine waterproof
display, although I prefer to have both. With the price of small, 15
inch, flat panel displays now down into the $200 range you can use one
of those, protect it reasonably well, and take your chances without
risking a king's ransom. I have an ordinary 15 inch flat panel which
has now survived 5 years on two different boats. I protect it (when
necessary) with one of those large platic envelopes that Maptech sells
to protect their chartbooks. Brightness is reasonably good, although
not as good as my Furuno chart plotter, it is brighter than most
laptop screens. I think if you mounted one on a pivot arm you could
probably use it either at the nav station or in the companionway area.

I agree, and it saves you having to take out a mortgage on a real daylight
waterproof screen.

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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:49:56 -0500, Jack Erbes
wrote:

It would be great if you could find specs that give you the brightness
and contrast ratio expressed as meaningful range of appropriate values
and as they relate to day and night viewing in the real world.

=====================================

Yes. I ended up buying my Furuno system on the strength of a
Practical Sailor report that evaluated all available 10 inch screens.
They thought Furuno had the best daytime visibility in direct
sunlight, and that all of the other feature differences between units
were more or less a dead heat in the final analysis.

We have not been disappointed and everyone else who has come aboard
always comments favorably.

Waterproof Screens
 

Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
I'll believe it when I see it

Phil


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
...
Phil Stanton wrote:

Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want
to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
chart table.
Thanks


A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here are
a few:

http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
http://www.nauticomp.com/
http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp

To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone that
says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
interface device)..." has not tried it yet.

I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter. For
what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120 and
some chart chips.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

Waterproof Screens
 

Who is coming out with this monitor? Which boat show?

thanks
John

"Phil Stanton" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
I'll believe it when I see it

Phil


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
...
Phil Stanton wrote:

Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I
want to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at
the chart table.
Thanks


A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here
are a few:

http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
http://www.nauticomp.com/
http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp

To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone
that says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not
been there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
interface device)..." has not tried it yet.

I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter.
For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120
and some chart chips.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

Waterproof Screens
 

London Boat show. What planet do you live on!!!

Keep an eye on http://www.vasari.net/

Alan Vasari is hoping to be in production in March 2006

Phil


"johnhh" wrote in message
. ..
Who is coming out with this monitor? Which boat show?

thanks
John

"Phil Stanton" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
I'll believe it when I see it

Phil


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
...
Phil Stanton wrote:

Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I
want to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at
the chart table.
Thanks


A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here
are a few:

http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
http://www.nauticomp.com/
http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp

To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone
that says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not
been there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
interface device)..." has not tried it yet.

I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good
one yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart
plotter. For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

Waterproof Screens
 

Phil Stanton wrote:
Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
I'll believe it when I see it

Phil


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
...

Phil Stanton wrote:


Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want
to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
chart table.
Thanks


A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here are
a few:

http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
http://www.nauticomp.com/
http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp

To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone that
says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
interface device)..." has not tried it yet.

I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter. For
what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120 and
some chart chips.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)



From - Mon

Have a look here to this french supl.
http://www.oceandatasystem.com/panas_ecran.html

--
Geert Maene.

Waterproof Screens
 

Phil: can you give us the name of the company that is to put out the
purported "affordable" sunlight viewable screen?

Gary


Phil Stanton wrote:
Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
I'll believe it when I see it

Phil


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
...

Phil Stanton wrote:


Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want
to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
chart table.
Thanks


A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here are
a few:

http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
http://www.nauticomp.com/
http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp

To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone that
says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
interface device)..." has not tried it yet.

I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter. For
what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120 and
some chart chips.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)



From - Mon

Have a look here to this french supl.
http://www.oceandatasystem.com/panas_ecran.html


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Waterproof Screens
 

Sorry for delay in replying. Using my Laptop for navigation yet again. Worn
out from going up and down companionway to view screen.
Allegedly Vasari Technology Ltd (http://www.vasari.net/) are going to
produce it, but in spite of a number of veryy affable conversations, they
are not there yet

Phil
wrote in message
. ..


Phil: can you give us the name of the company that is to put out the
purported "affordable" sunlight viewable screen?

Gary


Phil Stanton wrote:
Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
I'll believe it when I see it

Phil


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
...

Phil Stanton wrote:


Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I
want
to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
chart table.
Thanks


A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here
are
a few:

http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
http://www.nauticomp.com/
http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp

To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone
that
says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
interface device)..." has not tried it yet.

I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good
one
yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter.
For
what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120
and
some chart chips.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)



From - Mon

Have a look here to this french supl.
http://www.oceandatasystem.com/panas_ecran.html


--
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-----------------------------------------------------------

Waterproof Screens
 

Phil Stanton wrote:
Sorry for delay in replying. Using my Laptop for navigation yet
again. Worn out from going up and down companionway to view screen.
Allegedly Vasari Technology Ltd (http://www.vasari.net/) are going to
produce it, but in spite of a number of veryy affable conversations,
they are not there yet

Phil
wrote in message
. ..

Even if daylight-viewable waterproof screens were readily available, and
reasonably-priced, you would still have to use the laptop in a safe place
down below, so what is the point? I prefer to use my Garmin Map60C with the
same charts as my laptop so that they are identical and I can pocket the
Garmin when going up on deck. Admittedly the screen size makes it difficult
for actual navigation, but at least I have a display of sorts, and the
Bluecharts are as good as any other charts.

Waterproof Screens
 

The point is that here in the UK we have very congested shipping lanes. I
have just been over to France for a couple of weeks, and crossing the
English Channel there were well over 40 ships (Big B*ggers) in the shipping
lanes. I get the information of what they are up to (course, speed,
destination, name etc) from my AIS "radar" and then can take the neccessary
avoiding action. Visibility was a couple of miles, and with closing speeds
of 25 knts, I had to make course alterations to avoid 3 of them and also had
to talk to one of them to check his intentions. That is why I can sit down
below at the chart table putting routes in to the computer and checking
pilot books and tides etc, and have all that information clearly in front of
me when at the helm. I don't particularly want to mess around with routes in
an open cockpit when it is p*ssing down with rain and cold. OK we do
sometimes get a couple of sunny days in England. You have said the screen
size of your Garmin is too small, so that is why I would like a 12" screen



"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
...
Phil Stanton wrote:
Sorry for delay in replying. Using my Laptop for navigation yet
again. Worn out from going up and down companionway to view screen.
Allegedly Vasari Technology Ltd (http://www.vasari.net/) are going to
produce it, but in spite of a number of veryy affable conversations,
they are not there yet

Phil
wrote in message
. ..

Even if daylight-viewable waterproof screens were readily available, and
reasonably-priced, you would still have to use the laptop in a safe place
down below, so what is the point? I prefer to use my Garmin Map60C with
the
same charts as my laptop so that they are identical and I can pocket the
Garmin when going up on deck. Admittedly the screen size makes it
difficult
for actual navigation, but at least I have a display of sorts, and the
Bluecharts are as good as any other charts.

Waterproof Screens
 

Have a look at this (it's more than a screen):


http://seapc.se/

Check the links on their page for closest dealer.

I am aware of one person in the mail list (for my boat) that bought
one. Other than "he likes it"... I have no info screen brightness
etc.

whatcha think?


|G|

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Phil Stanton wrote:
The point is that here in the UK we have very congested shipping
lanes. I have just been over to France for a couple of weeks, and
crossing the English Channel there were well over 40 ships (Big
B*ggers) in the shipping lanes. I get the information of what they
are up to (course, speed, destination, name etc) from my AIS "radar"
and then can take the neccessary avoiding action. Visibility was a
couple of miles, and with closing speeds of 25 knts, I had to make
course alterations to avoid 3 of them and also had to talk to one of
them to check his intentions. That is why I can sit down below at the
chart table putting routes in to the computer and checking pilot
books and tides etc, and have all that information clearly in front
of me when at the helm. I don't particularly want to mess around with
routes in an open cockpit when it is p*ssing down with rain and cold.
OK we do sometimes get a couple of sunny days in England. You have
said the screen size of your Garmin is too small, so that is why I
would like a 12" screen


Phil,

You have my sympathy, particularly if sailing alone or with non-clued-up
friends who could do the leg work for you.

I saw many such screens at the Boat Show years ago. They were plentiful, but
hellish expensive, and quite out of the question for my own use. Have you
thought of looking for a second-hand screen from the trawler fleet? They
used to use them, and since many such vessels are now in the knackers yard,
this may be a source worth looking for. I believe most British trawlers are
broken up in Holland, but I could be wrong.

Dennis.