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Chris April 28th 05 03:56 AM

Speaker Buzz need help!!
 
Hi I'm new to the group and a newbie at wiring stereos so please bear
with me. On my boat I installed a new Kenwood receiver and a new Sony
CD changer. Connected to an older (6 yr.) Kenwood equalizer ans Sony
3040 that's the name amp. I've installed new speakers outside, checked
and upgraded all my speaker wires and connections but there is a buzz
in both sets and wasn't there in the old system. I've connected a
ground wire from the stereo power neg busway to a copper strip which
runs all thought out the boat. I've checked the resistance on the
copper by setting my meter to 20K touch both prongs together and get
0.03 rating. I then placed both prongs on the copper wire and the
resistance reads 0.03 but still the buzz. If I disconnect this #16
ground wire it of course gets louder. I've tried a heaver ground wire
#8 no change still the buzz.The power wires +/- to the amp are #8


Where next do I get better RCA cables than Radio Shack and if I need a
separate ground for the amp where do I attach it....to one of the
mounting screws holding the amp to the boats wood interior? The buzz
is making me crazy trying to get rid of it in both the radio or CD's.
I've also turned off at the panel board all other items, no motor and
still the buzz. Today I cleaned and tightened all battery connections
you guess it still there


Michael Davis April 28th 05 07:56 PM

Hi,
Interference is a nasty problem. Since you stated that the New system has
the problem but the Old system did not here are a few tips.

Some things you might have missed in your checking.
If you are plugged into shore power the buzz may be from your battery
charger.
If you have a inverter it may also cause a buzz.
To fix either of those or just to shotgun the problem, install a power line
filter.

You can also pick up a buzz if any line is along side a AC line, the new
wiring may be to close, rerouting may be needed.

You may be picking up noise from something on the dock or a neighbors boat,
take the boat away from the dock and check it out.

If nothing else help, then try shielded wiring. Use it between the units
and to the speakers.
Run a ground wire between each unit and to battery ground in a daisy chain.

Mike

"Chris" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi I'm new to the group and a newbie at wiring stereos so please bear
with me. On my boat I installed a new Kenwood receiver and a new Sony
CD changer. Connected to an older (6 yr.) Kenwood equalizer ans Sony
3040 that's the name amp. I've installed new speakers outside, checked
and upgraded all my speaker wires and connections but there is a buzz
in both sets and wasn't there in the old system. I've connected a
ground wire from the stereo power neg busway to a copper strip which
runs all thought out the boat. I've checked the resistance on the
copper by setting my meter to 20K touch both prongs together and get
0.03 rating. I then placed both prongs on the copper wire and the
resistance reads 0.03 but still the buzz. If I disconnect this #16
ground wire it of course gets louder. I've tried a heaver ground wire
#8 no change still the buzz.The power wires +/- to the amp are #8


Where next do I get better RCA cables than Radio Shack and if I need a
separate ground for the amp where do I attach it....to one of the
mounting screws holding the amp to the boats wood interior? The buzz
is making me crazy trying to get rid of it in both the radio or CD's.
I've also turned off at the panel board all other items, no motor and
still the buzz. Today I cleaned and tightened all battery connections
you guess it still there




PeterKeating May 3rd 05 11:08 PM

Have you run the wiring near to any R/F wires, or anything drawing a lot of
current?
"Chris" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi I'm new to the group and a newbie at wiring stereos so please bear
with me. On my boat I installed a new Kenwood receiver and a new Sony
CD changer. Connected to an older (6 yr.) Kenwood equalizer ans Sony
3040 that's the name amp. I've installed new speakers outside, checked
and upgraded all my speaker wires and connections but there is a buzz
in both sets and wasn't there in the old system. I've connected a
ground wire from the stereo power neg busway to a copper strip which
runs all thought out the boat. I've checked the resistance on the
copper by setting my meter to 20K touch both prongs together and get
0.03 rating. I then placed both prongs on the copper wire and the
resistance reads 0.03 but still the buzz. If I disconnect this #16
ground wire it of course gets louder. I've tried a heaver ground wire
#8 no change still the buzz.The power wires +/- to the amp are #8


Where next do I get better RCA cables than Radio Shack and if I need a
separate ground for the amp where do I attach it....to one of the
mounting screws holding the amp to the boats wood interior? The buzz
is making me crazy trying to get rid of it in both the radio or CD's.
I've also turned off at the panel board all other items, no motor and
still the buzz. Today I cleaned and tightened all battery connections
you guess it still there




NA May 5th 05 07:06 PM

I see no mention of switching off your charger. That is your most likely
source of a buzz.

"PeterKeating" wrote in message
...
Have you run the wiring near to any R/F wires, or anything drawing a lot
of current?
"Chris" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi I'm new to the group and a newbie at wiring stereos so please bear
with me. On my boat I installed a new Kenwood receiver and a new Sony
CD changer. Connected to an older (6 yr.) Kenwood equalizer ans Sony
3040 that's the name amp. I've installed new speakers outside, checked
and upgraded all my speaker wires and connections but there is a buzz
in both sets and wasn't there in the old system. I've connected a
ground wire from the stereo power neg busway to a copper strip which
runs all thought out the boat. I've checked the resistance on the
copper by setting my meter to 20K touch both prongs together and get
0.03 rating. I then placed both prongs on the copper wire and the
resistance reads 0.03 but still the buzz. If I disconnect this #16
ground wire it of course gets louder. I've tried a heaver ground wire
#8 no change still the buzz.The power wires +/- to the amp are #8


Where next do I get better RCA cables than Radio Shack and if I need a
separate ground for the amp where do I attach it....to one of the
mounting screws holding the amp to the boats wood interior? The buzz
is making me crazy trying to get rid of it in both the radio or CD's.
I've also turned off at the panel board all other items, no motor and
still the buzz. Today I cleaned and tightened all battery connections
you guess it still there






Larry W4CSC May 8th 05 02:51 PM

"NA" wrote in
:

I see no mention of switching off your charger. That is your most
likely source of a buzz.



Usually the source of this buzz is either corroded terminals or a dead
battery cell with the charger running full bore trying to bring the voltage
up. In either case, the high resistance the charger (or alternator which
makes the stereo whine at various pitches as the engine RPM varies) is
pumping into creates pulses on top of the residual battery voltage. As the
audio power amp is running directly off this pulsating voltage, the
buzz/whine is passed onto the speakers.

Does it whine when the alternator is running, too?



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