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Gary Schafer wrote in
: As far as guys checking in from their boat with no traffic that again reinforces the operation of the net. It is also a good way for that boater to know that he can contact the net when needed. It provides him with a little training in communication skills also. Does anyone get that kind of training or acknowledgement from the Coast Guard? I think not. Practice is what makes this thing work. 73 Gary K4FMX Noone knows whether they can contact a CG comm center or not. Noone is allowed to "bother" them with "no traffic" just to see if the propagation is available or if the radios on both ends are working at the moment. 1) Boaters checking in to MMSN with no traffic, every one of them, with this simple contact have: 2) Checked equipment to make sure it's working properly... 3) Checked propagation at the time they are monitoring to see if the ionosphere is still operational... 4) Helped the hams monitoring the net to check propagation between THEIR station and a maritime area they had not heard from today, just in case their services are needed during this net time... 5) Inadvertently said, "Thank you, guys" from the boaters the doggedly loyal ham retirees on shore are trying to serve. All they ask is for a little check-in "thanks". Any boater-ham should always check-in for these purposes if no other. You have no way of knowing until it's too late if the damned CG can hear you or not and if anyone is REALLY listening out there. "Waste of Bandwidth" my ass..... |
"Jack Painter" wrote in
news:uAGGd.17853$B95.5757@lakeread02: Hi Gary, that's all right. I was talking about an MMSN member checking in with the net from the dock. If that's training, so be it. I don't know if there are ever missed calls because of that chatter, but it seems possible there would be. Training with check-in chatter could be accomplished off-net, much like the Sunday afternoon training already goes off-frequency for a short broadcast of interest to users of the net. Many Hams are admittedly very skilled with break-in techniques that keep the MMSN full of non-stop chatter with few breaks for service, so to speak. Just my observation from over a decade of listening to it! Jack So, tell us how DO you know what area you can hear on your HF net? Noone transmits for fear of raising your ire. Can you hear Florida today? Galveston? 100 miles out? 200? 500? What magic on that dead HF frequency tells you the sun has exploded, again, and communications is useless? Surely you're not depending on WWV's propagation forecast, are you? If we observe the two quiet periods for emergency traffic calls, wouldn't it be better for everyone involved if you knew what boats/ships are also your ears and eyes on the frequency, expanding your pitiful little receiving antenna cross section by several thousand miles? "CG Net this is WDB-6254, "Lionheart" at 32 24N, 75 12W checkin, no traffic monitoring 802 for next 2 hours." Aha! I can hear a 150W insulated backstay offshore of Charleston on Channel 802 at this time. HE, on the other hand, will HELP me monitor the frequency, relaying to areas I cannot hear because of propagation, any calls that get no answers from me. What harm have I done to Coast Guard Communications? They USED to do it on CW, you know! It's how I learned the code when I was 10 in 1956.....(c; This is precisely why hams "waste bandwidth", as you say.....see? |
"Jack Painter" wrote in
news:mImHd.18721$B95.15277@lakeread02: Doug (of Calista), why would you say such a thing? You just slandered me and I expect an apology through the group, after you read back through the times that I highly praised the MMSN and the workers in that net. When you start inventing crap like that just because you tire of being corrected for your consistently inaccurate statements about the Coast Guard, your reputation goes to zero in the eyes of honorable men. You sir, give a bad name to hams, by lying on their behalf while you try to defend some of the indefensible statements you have made about the CG and their radio operations in particular. When you resorted to slander, you stepped over the line, and that had better stop right now. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia Your ONE comment about useless checkins says volumes about your experience as an HF communications station, CG or not..... |
Chris Newport wrote in
: Coastguard stations around the world are generally blessed with serious antenna farms and excellent professional receivers. They are therefore well equiped to hear you if there is a signal to be heard. Not without a cooperating ionosphere, which hasn't been cooperating of late. What serious antenna farm have you been to? Their receiving antenna is a whip! Their transmit antennas go from a whip to a conical monopole at the 10KW stations. Serious antenna farm! Those silly hams are running 1.5KW PEP, when necessary, into an amazing array of beam antennas both receiving and transmitting. The average Icom, Yaesu or Kenwood receiver at any ham station has 2 or 3 HF SSB bandwidths with digital signal processing of both IF and audio. CG had an old blue display Commercial HF receiver, last time I went from base to base calibrating their test equipment a few years back. What ultra-sensitive receivers are they using today? Those ham rigs have 120 db crystal-sloped IF skirts and .1 uV receivers. The receivers are so sensitive we have to have an attenuator to protect them from atmospherics. Back to the antenna problem..... Let's say there's 50 hams in USA and Canada monitoring MMSN at noon, tomorrow. The furthest East is in Nova Scotia. The furthest South is in West Palm Beach. The furthest West is in Honolulu. The other 50 have their sensitive little Yaesus listening every few hundred miles in between. So, their "effective receiving antenna" is VERY well distributed across a wide area of two countries, maybe even Europe and Asia at times. CG has...well....8 to 10 whip antennas on each frequency....all right along the COAST with nothing in between? Which receiving system has a better chance of hearing out little backstay transmitter, 180 miles off the Georgia coast?? PS - 22 hams KNOW they can hear me because they heard me and wrote down my callsign on their desk pad when I did my useless chit-chat checkin.....(c; |
"Jack Painter" wrote in
news:8L_Gd.18132$B95.563@lakeread02: 9. Automatic Direction Finding equipment with display on computer-screen charts is selectable from all or individual high-sites. The Coast Guard watchstander at Group Charleston thought the "Morning Dew" distress call was a hoax. Obviously, if he'd had VHF-DF capabilities and knew how to use it, he would have seen the display light up BRIGHTLY as the sinking boat was only a mile and a little from Sullivan's Island Light and 3.5 miles from CG Base Charleston in the Ashley River. Is this new stuff since Morning Dew's debacle? 10. Digital recording devices capture 100% of all incoming traffic to USCG Group receivers. Yes, they do! It took three TV stations calling Sen Holling's office and a lot of political pressure to pry those recordings out of a reluctant Coast Guard's clutches....negating any doubt about them HEARING the boy on the Morning Dew screaming for his life. Let's WAKE THE BOATCREW and WASTE A LITTLE OF MY TAX MONEY!! |
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"Jack Painter" wrote in
news:Zo%Gd.18134$B95.16615@lakeread02: Maybe I can get back to you with a more definitive HF-answer later Wayne, sorry it's just too new a procedure to be sure yet. I found this SWL list of USCG stations off a Google Search. Callsigns are awfully hard to find, it seems. NMB is Charleston, but don't call 'em that if you expect to get an answer....(c; NABD USCGUSCGC Grand Isle (WPB-1338) NABK USCGUSCGC Farallon (WPB-1301) NADT USCGUSCGC Buckthorn (WLI-642) NAED USCGUSCGC White Sumac (WLM-540) NAFO USCGUSCGC Cowslip (WLB-277) NAKH USCGUSCGC Point Batan (WPB-8234) NAOI USCGUSCGC Chincoteague (WPB-1320) NAQD USCGUSCGC Jarvis (WHEC-725) NAR USNCOMMSTA Key West, FL NARU USCGUSCGC Coho (WPB-8732) NASB USCGUSCGC Attu (WPB-1317) NAV EIGHTNavy/MC MARSHI NAYE USCGUSCGC Pamlico (WLIC-800) NAYM USCGUSCGC Matagorda (WPB-1303) NBEI USCGUSCGC Maui (WPB-1304) NBKZ USCGUSCGC Metompkin (WPB-1325) NBNW USCGUSCGC Sitkinak (WPB-1329) NBRF USCGUSCGC Osprey (WPB-8730) NBRG USCGUSCGC Stingray (WPB-8730) NBTC USCGUSCGC Aquidneck (WPB-1309) NBTM USCGUSCGC Polar Star (WAGB-10) NCBE USCGUSCGC Tahoma (WMEC-908) NCCE USCGUSCGC Point Evans (WPB-8235) NCF USCGGroup Miami, FL NCSR USCGUSCGC Knight Island (WPB-1348) NCUI USCGUSCGC Baranof (WPB-1318) NCWX USCGUSCGC Hudson (WLIC-801) NDBC USCGUSCGC Juniper (WLB-201) NDCH USCGUSCGC Point Francis (WPB-8235) NDCK USCGUSCGC Sanibel (WPB-1312) NDCV USCGUSCGC Conchito (WPB-8732) NDIS USCGUSCGC Matinicus (WPB-1315) NDRV USCGUSCGC Assateague (WPB-1337) NDTE USCGUSCGC Red Wood (WLM-685) NDTS USCGUSCGC Dauntless (WMEC-624) NDWA USCGUSCGC Morgenthau (WHEC-722) NEDI USCGUSCGC Cuttyhunk (WPB-1322) NEGS USCGUSCGC Monhegan (WPB-1305) NEPP USCGUSCGC Healy (WAGB-20) NERA USCGUSCGC Barbara Mabrity (WLM-559) NERH USCGUSCGC Tybee (WPB-1330) NERW USCGUSCGC Anthony Petit (WLM-559) NEWR USCGUSCGC Naushon (WPB-1311) NEXY USCGUSCGC Anacapa (WPB-1335) NFFS USCGUSCGC Chandeleur (WPB-1319) NFMK USCGUSCGC Seneca (WMEC-906) NFSH USCGUSCGC Pelican (WPB-8732) NFWC USCGUSCGC Wrangell (WPB-1332) NGBL USCGUSCGC Ocracoke (WPB-1307) NGDF USCGUSCGC Munro (WHEC-724) NGEI USCGUSCGC Key Largo (WPB-1324) NGYS USCGUSCGC Key Biscayne (WPB-1339) NHIC USCGUSCGC Vigilant (WMEC-617) NHKD USCGUSCGC Sapelo (WPB-1314) NHKW USCGUSCGC Confidence (WMEC-619) NHNC USCGUSCGC Harriet Lane (WMEC-903) NHPX USCGUSCGC Nunivak (WPB-1306) NHSD USCGUSCGC Drummond (WPB-1323) NHWR USCGUSCGC Midgett (WHEC-726) NICB USCGUSCGC Forward (WMEC-911) NIGY USCGUSCGC Penobscot Bay (WTGB-107) NIIU USCGUSCGC Steelhead (WPB-8732) NIKL USCGUSCGC Tampa (WMEC-902) NIQT USCGUSCGC Point Baker (WPB-8734) NISS USCGUSCGC Ida Lewis (WLM-551) NIUD USCGUSCGC Barracuda (WPB-8730) NJAR USCGUSCGC Spar (WLB-206) NJEC USCGUSCGC Dorado (WPB-8730) NJEH USCGUSCGC Vashon (WPB-1308) NJHT USCGUSCGC Liberty (WPB-1334) NJOR USCGUSCGC Gallatin (WHEC-721) NJOY USCGUSCGC Saginaw (WLIC-803) NJPJ USCGUSCGC Reliance (WMEC-615) NJPZ USCGUSCGC Moray (WPB-8733) NJQA USCGUSCGC Manowar (WPB-8733) NJSH USCGUSCGC Mustang (WPB-1310) NJSJ USCGUSCGC Razorbill (WPB-8733) NJTH USCGUSCGC Joshua Appleby (WLM-556) NJZP USCGUSCGC Marlin (WPB-8730) NKDL USCGUSCGC Frank Drew (WLM-557) NKEC USCGUSCGC Monomoy (WPB-1326) NKFW USCGUSCGC Katherine Walker (WLM-552) NKIG USCGUSCGC Point Camden (WPB-8237) NKJU USCGUSCGC Kukui (WLB-203) NKVQ USCGUSCGC Nantucket (WPB-1316) NLBI USCGUSCGC Point Swift (WPB-8321) NLGF USCGUSCGC Northland (WMEC-904) NLIL USCGUSCGC Bainbridge Island (WPB-1343) NLKY USCGUSCGC Edisto (WPB-1313) NLPM USCGUSCGC Chase (WHEC-718) NLVA USCGUSCGC Point Barnes (WPB-8237) NLVS USCGUSCGC Rush (WHEC-723) NLWZ USCGUSCGC Point Nowell (WPB-8236) NMA USCGFlorida (remotes to CAMSLANT) NMA10 USCGGroup Mayport, FL NMA21 USCGGroup St. Petersburg, FL NMA7 USCGLoran-C station, Jupiter Inlet, FL NMAG USCGUSCGC Hamilton (WHEC-715) NMB USCGGroup Charleston, SC NMC USCGCAMSPAC, Pt. Reyes, CA NMC11 USCGGroup Humboldt Bay, CA NME USCGSavannah, GA NMEL USCGUSCGC Mellon (WHEC-717) NMF USCGBoston, MA (remotes to CAMSLANT) NMF2 USCGGroup Woods Hole, MA NMF31 USCGGroup Portland, ME NMF32 USCGLoran-C station, Nantucket, MA NMF33 USCGLoran-C station, Caribou, ME NMF37 USCGLoran-C station, Carolina Beach, NC NMF44 USCGGroup Southwest Harbor, ME NMG USCGNew Orleans, LA (remotes to CAMSLANT) NMG2 USCGGroup New Orleans, LA NMGH USCGUSCGC Marcus Hanna (WLM-554) NMHU USCGUSCGC Blackfin (WPB-8731) NMHU USCGUSCGC Blacktip (WPB-8732) NMK USCGGroup/AirSta Atlantic City, NJ NMMJ USCGUSCGC Sherman (WHEC-720) NMN USCGCAMSLANT, Chesapeake, VA NMN13 USCGGroup Cape Hatteras, NC NMN37 USCGGroup Fort Macon, NC NMN70 USCGGroup Eastern Shore, VA NMN80 USCGGroup Hampton Roads, VA NMO USCGHonolulu, HI (remotes to CAMSPAC) NMO2 USCGGroup Honolulu, Hawaii NMQ USCGLong Beach, CA NMQ9 USCGGroup Long Beach, CA NMR USCGSan Juan, PR NMR1 USCGGreater Antilles Section, San Juan, PR NMUD USCGUSCGC Diligence (WMEC-616) NMW USCGGroup Astoria, OR NMY42 USCGGroup Moriches, NY NNAS USCGUSCGC Escanaba (WMEC-907) NNHA USCGUSCGC Acushnet (WMEC-167) NNIA USCGUSCGC William Tate (WLM-560) |
Wayne.B wrote in
: I'm getting ready to have a new Icom M-802 Wayne, just for information....... That crappy PC board connector they expect you to leave out in the weather on the AT-130 antenna tuner and the crappy CB coax pigtail SO-239 connector CAN be eliminated at the tuner..... The control cable pigtail is soldered to some U-shaped wire loops inside the tuner where the book shows a screw-terminal connection. NOTE WHICH WIRES GO TO WHICH LOOPS. Unsolder the pigtail from the loops and pull it out of the tuner's stuffing tubes. Throw it overboard before it cripples your HF. Cut the plastic plug off the control cable before trying to feed it through the boat to the tuner. Makes installation MUCH neater and easier! Run the cable through the now-empty stuffing tube and solder the appropriate wires directly to the PC board loops you took the crappy pigtail out of. You do NOT have to remove the PC board to accomplish this. Just remove the cover off the tuner. The coax is another matter...... You'd have to remove the whole tuner PC ass'y to replace the coax soldered to the board. No fun at sea...So.... I cut the coax plug off the tuner's RG-58 pigtail and pulled the coax back through the stuffing tube inside the tuner. I cut the coax to a convenient length and put a new cable-mounted SO-239 connector INSIDE the tuner, where it won't get drown in salt water. Feed the unconnectored coax through the stuffing tube and put a PL-259 connector on it INSIDE the tuner. Use a piece of shrink tubing to seal the coax connections and insulate the grounded connectors from touching anything inside the tuner. Tywrap the connectors to the control cable right where it comes in from the stuffing tube to secure it from moving around. ALL antenna tuner connections are now SEALED inside the environment of the sealed tuner.....NOT LAYING OUT ON THE DECK OR IN SOME WATER-SOAKED COMPARTMENT RUSTING AWAY! M802 is a great radio.... Turn it on and press MODE + TX + 2 together to open its transmitter to FULL coverage, including 150W on all the ham bands. Do it again to put it back to marine-only transmit. (I'm afraid to leave it open when I'm not on the boat for fear my captain will be out-of-band transmitting, probably on BBC World Service...(c;) MAKE SURE THE M802 TRANSCEIVER IS NOT WHERE ANY WATER CAN GET ON IT! The fan sucks sea air into the chassis to corrode everything inside and destroy it....part of Icom's Planned Obsolescense System, I think. Stupid design.... I have the transceiver mounted behind the nav panel high up in the boat above the flooding and the control panel is on the end of the extra cable mounted in the mahogany panel right by it. Sorry we can't get rid of the cheap crap connector on the RADIO end of the control cable. They don't even give you EXTRA PINS for the plug in case you bend one....how awful. Putting that plug on is the worst part of the job. If the antenna tuner fails to tune....Unplug and plug that little white plug into the radio several times and it will...(c; Connecting M802 to your NMEA system needs to be done through an opto- isolator. How stupid....a GROUNDED BNC connector, UNBALANCED, for NMEA data to tell DSC where you are. My optoisolator is in a little box stuck to the front of the radio....Stupid, Icom...Stupid! |
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in news:8K-
: So, if I am heading offshore, how do I find out if the USCG can copy me? Telepathy....SSB Telepathy. A good way is to checkin to the MMSN on 14.300. If you don't have a ham callsign, well, GET ONE! |
chuck wrote in :
Regarding your assertion that "making calls to a non-specific vessel or unit" for radio checks is prohibited, it would be useful to consider Section 80.89: Channel 9..... "Wappoo Cut Bridge, this is Lionheart, over?" "Lionheart this is Wappoo Cut Bridge, go ahead?" "Can you hear me ok, over?" "Sure, Lionheart. Sounds great." "Thank you for a great service to all of us. Lionheart out." (She usually thanks you for saying something nice.) Bridgetenders are great people. One of them made all the new cushions and curtains in her home upholstery business for Lionheart! They don't mind talking to you from their boring jobs, especially if it's not busy. Too bad many are losing their jobs they've had for so many years....dumped for the new high bridges..... FCC Rules permit you to call your favorite bridgetenders on Channel 9 without the CG bitching you out.....(c; |
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
: The USCG radio operators in this area do not appear to be all that well trained. They stick to boiler-plate dialog such that it takes 5 minutes to communicate 30 seconds worth of information. In terms of efficiency, hams have them beat hands down. Doug, k3qt s/v CAllista "What is the name of your vessel?" (repeat 3-5 times) "How many are aboard?" (repeat 5 to 10 times) "What color is your boat?" ("WHITE GELCOAT YOU IDIOT!") (repeat 3 to 5 times) "What is your hull number?" ("How should I know? My wallet is below, DROWNED IN SEAWATER and the hull numbers are ALREADY UNDERWATER!") (repeat at least twice....more if you sound ****ed.) "Do you have USCG-approved PFDs aboard for each person?" ("No, we looked hard and found 8 with no tags, but they're floating, fine.") (no answer as batteries have flooded) Problem solved......no report necessary. ("Coast Guard this is Sea Tow. I'm at the scene and will handle it.") Too bad Sea Tow wasn't monitoring at 3AM or the Morning Dew's kids might have LIVED! Every time I pass that spot on the Charleston jetties I can hear that boy screaming from the CG tape..... |
"Larry W4CSC" wrote So, tell us how DO you know what area you can hear on your HF net? Noone transmits for fear of raising your ire. Can you hear Florida today? Galveston? 100 miles out? 200? 500? What magic on that dead HF frequency tells you the sun has exploded, again, and communications is useless? Surely you're not depending on WWV's propagation forecast, are you? If we observe the two quiet periods for emergency traffic calls, wouldn't it be better for everyone involved if you knew what boats/ships are also your ears and eyes on the frequency, expanding your pitiful little receiving antenna cross section by several thousand miles? "CG Net this is WDB-6254, "Lionheart" at 32 24N, 75 12W checkin, no traffic monitoring 802 for next 2 hours." Aha! I can hear a 150W insulated backstay offshore of Charleston on Channel 802 at this time. HE, on the other hand, will HELP me monitor the frequency, relaying to areas I cannot hear because of propagation, any calls that get no answers from me. What harm have I done to Coast Guard Communications? They USED to do it on CW, you know! It's how I learned the code when I was 10 in 1956.....(c; This is precisely why hams "waste bandwidth", as you say.....see? When I operate from my station, I use every resource available to me, and it is everything you would expect a radio operator to do. When operating from the net control of a vast resource of hundreds of antennas and transmitters and receivers across thousands of miles, supplemented with satellites, there is no such concern about "will I be able to hear San Juan"? I only have three antennas and I can get the job done pretty well too from Newfoundland to South America, day or night. I carefully chose the antennas to do the job, and 99% of the time I can do it on 125 watts. You're confusing radio hobbyists who like to chat with each other and feel accomplishment in their hobby and equipment by reinforcing that they can talk to the same stations in the same places over, and over and over, with the reason that ships are at sea, which is not a hobby. Professional mariners, which make up the overwhelming majority of all high seas travelers, have no such time or reason to chat on amateur nets or on official frequencies reserved for hailing and distress. The real blue water sailors of a hobbyist ilk, have options in a communication suite that leaves about zero chance that an emergency call would not be heard and relayed to appropriate authorities. Amateur maritime mobile service nets make up one small and nonetheless important part of that but only where pleasure craft or third-world fishing vessels are concerned. The USCG just finished supervising the rescue of four people far from Bermuda who set of an EPIRB. Until the good Samaritan vessel directed to the scene by the Coast Guard arrived tonight, the USCG C-130 had already found them, and supplied comfort, communications, food, water and blankets, along with the assuredness that surface rescue was on the way. One EPIRB did that for them. Where communications came into play was with the USCG's ability to contact all area vessels and vector the appropriate ones to the scene. I had no problem hearing every word that was passed to and from the C-130 and if a major solar flare had happened, they could have changed altitude, changed frequencies, and as a last resort, used other more expensive forms of communication. What you allude to is totally unnecessary and serves only the brotherhood of clubs who need social interaction to remain a coherent organization. That's not contested or misunderstood by me, but I think you believe they do this for reasons which modern communicators would find frivolous. Or fun. Take your pick. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia |
"Larry W4CSC" repeats himself in message ... Gary Schafer wrote in : 1) Boaters checking in to MMSN with no traffic, every one of them, with this simple contact have: 2) Checked equipment to make sure it's working properly... 3) Checked propagation at the time they are monitoring to see if the ionosphere is still operational... 4) Helped the hams monitoring the net to check propagation between THEIR station and a maritime area they had not heard from today, just in case their services are needed during this net time... 5) Inadvertently said, "Thank you, guys" from the boaters the doggedly loyal ham retirees on shore are trying to serve. All they ask is for a little check-in "thanks". Any boater-ham should always check-in for these purposes if no other. You have no way of knowing until it's too late if the damned CG can hear you or not and if anyone is REALLY listening out there. "Waste of Bandwidth" my ass..... Well I'm sure they enjoy that little camaraderie, but the vast majority of pleasure boaters, fishermen and professional mariners are not amateur radio operators. If they were, ham radio would be permanently assigned the status of CB-world. Some of you actually work to prevent that from happening, so be careful what you wish for, it could happen. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia |
"Larry W4CSC" wrote "Jack Painter" wrote in news:pbFGd.17550$B95.16031@lakeread02: I am not a Ham. When I can spare a receiver, it is often on 14.300 MMSN. I followed various amateur hurricane emergency nets in Florida during the hurricanes this summer. 100% of the traffic was a waste of bandwidth with stations checking in from their homes with no traffic (This is still not quite as ridiculous as someone checking in to the MMSN with no traffic from their BOAT). Then there were the unfounded rumours passed about damage (all the while telephone service remained). Of course the only place they were ever needed in Florida was as backups at the EOC's and various shelters for local repeater work. But few hams roll up their sleeves and actually go to work in this intended fashion, instead opting to let everyone in the HF-hemishpere know that "I'm here at home if you need me". "Oh yea thanks for telling us", the real workers think. You missed the point of the net, entirely. The net is a SERVICE net. Traffic is passed or phone patches can be connected between ham boaters and home. Ham radio is a HOBBY. No bandwidth has ever been "wasted". Stations check into the net with no traffic TO LET NET CONTROL KNOW THEY ARE THERE, ON FREQ, AND AVAILABLE TO RECEIVE TRAFFIC.....unlike you Coasties who noone ever knows whether they are listening, HAVE PROPAGATION TO LISTEN, or not! No I didn't miss the point. I did mean to be more specific (and I was later) that I meant checking in from the dock. That's not service, that's just enjoying the use of a radio for enjoyment's sake. Fine but don't confuse it with hailing and distress frequencies. Each has their purpose. You boys have some fun with CG's wonderful communicators where you live. Call 'em by their official call letters some day. See if they recognize the call. Ours have no idea what CG Group Charleston's callsign is on HF or VHF. Don't seem to be any RADIOMEN left. That would be fun for you maybe, I just see it as lack of use = lack of existence. Nobody calls them by those callsigns through a watchstanders whole enlistment, and then you want to "test" him on it? I think I 've made it clear that at least in Eastern US waters, which is what I observe, USCG Groups answer distress calls on 2182 on a regular basis. The most tragic marine diaster is recent US history (Bow Mariner) passed an alert via only 2187.5 khz DSC-GMDSS and 2182 khz, to which three USCG Groups immediately responded and rescue aircraft and surface vessels were launched immediately, and lives saved as a result of excellent watchstanding on 2182 khz. I backed up a young operator on that case from the first message passed. I attended the Church service for the deceased, and was thanked by the survivors. I don't need your approval of procedures and policies, but I will try to help you understand them, since you are a customer and may one day be a consumer of USCG rescue services. Now, let me polish this ax off a little more.... You mean grind, which is obviously the only reason for you being here. I'm sure you've gotten a little flack from the Charleston "Morning Dew" debacle. Remember the complete idiot with 3 boys aboard crashing into the UNLIGHTED Charleston Jetties? Need I post the tape of the boys screaming for help? Oh, I forgot, his "Radio Procedures" weren't "correct". IF THOSE BOYS HAD SCREAMED FOR HELP ON ANY CHARLESTON SC HAM RADIO REPEATER FREQUENCY.....THEY'D STILL BE ALIVE TODAY!! If I had heard them, I'd have got the Goddamned BASE COMMANDER out of his rack! You know I can't comment on that, and why. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia |
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... Chris Newport wrote in : Coastguard stations around the world are generally blessed with serious antenna farms and excellent professional receivers. They are therefore well equiped to hear you if there is a signal to be heard. Not without a cooperating ionosphere, which hasn't been cooperating of late. What serious antenna farm have you been to? Their receiving antenna is a whip! Their transmit antennas go from a whip to a conical monopole at the 10KW stations. Serious antenna farm! Those silly hams are running 1.5KW PEP, when necessary, into an amazing array of beam antennas both receiving and transmitting. The average Icom, Yaesu or Kenwood receiver at any ham station has 2 or 3 HF SSB bandwidths with digital signal processing of both IF and audio. CG had an old blue display Commercial HF receiver, last time I went from base to base calibrating their test equipment a few years back. What ultra-sensitive receivers are they using today? Those ham rigs have 120 db crystal-sloped IF skirts and .1 uV receivers. The receivers are so sensitive we have to have an attenuator to protect them from atmospherics. Back to the antenna problem..... Let's say there's 50 hams in USA and Canada monitoring MMSN at noon, tomorrow. The furthest East is in Nova Scotia. The furthest South is in West Palm Beach. The furthest West is in Honolulu. The other 50 have their sensitive little Yaesus listening every few hundred miles in between. So, their "effective receiving antenna" is VERY well distributed across a wide area of two countries, maybe even Europe and Asia at times. CG has...well....8 to 10 whip antennas on each frequency....all right along the COAST with nothing in between? Which receiving system has a better chance of hearing out little backstay transmitter, 180 miles off the Georgia coast?? PS - 22 hams KNOW they can hear me because they heard me and wrote down my callsign on their desk pad when I did my useless chit-chat checkin.....(c; Larry you are so far off base, did you even read any of the messages in this thread??? HOW MANY of the 50 or so Hams you say might be listening to the MMSN are listening to 2182 khz? EVERY USCG Group is guarding ONLY that MF-Marine hailing and distress frequency. The Communications Area Master Stations are guarding 4125 khz, 6215 khz, 8291 khz and 12290 khz international maritime hailing and distress frequencies. Unfortunately we cannot describe the antennas receivers and transmitters doing this job, but you are sadly misguided is you think they are inferior to anything. Nor does the cooperation of the ionosphere have as much impact on the performance of this highly versatile system as you imagine. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia |
"Larry W4CSC" wrote "Jack Painter" wrote in news:8L_Gd.18132$B95.563@lakeread02: 9. Automatic Direction Finding equipment with display on computer-screen charts is selectable from all or individual high-sites. The Coast Guard watchstander at Group Charleston thought the "Morning Dew" distress call was a hoax. Obviously, if he'd had VHF-DF capabilities and knew how to use it, he would have seen the display light up BRIGHTLY as the sinking boat was only a mile and a little from Sullivan's Island Light and 3.5 miles from CG Base Charleston in the Ashley River. Is this new stuff since Morning Dew's debacle? Cannot comment on that case. Jack 10. Digital recording devices capture 100% of all incoming traffic to USCG Group receivers. Yes, they do! It took three TV stations calling Sen Holling's office and a lot of political pressure to pry those recordings out of a reluctant Coast Guard's clutches....negating any doubt about them HEARING the boy on the Morning Dew screaming for his life. Let's WAKE THE BOATCREW and WASTE A LITTLE OF MY TAX MONEY!! |
Larry W4CSC wrote:
If we observe the two quiet periods for emergency traffic calls, wouldn't it be better for everyone involved if you knew what boats/ships are also your ears and eyes on the frequency, expanding your pitiful little receiving antenna cross section by several thousand miles? "CG Net this is WDB-6254, "Lionheart" at 32 24N, 75 12W checkin, no traffic monitoring 802 for next 2 hours." Aha! I can hear a 150W insulated backstay offshore of Charleston on Channel 802 at this time. HE, on the other hand, will HELP me monitor the frequency, relaying to areas I cannot hear because of propagation, any calls that get no answers from me. Larry, So what kind of license do you have to make that call on HF? Neither you or "your captain" have a license according to the FCC. Tell us all about your First Class Phone and your GROL and your GMDSS Operator and Maintainer licenses again. Bwahahahahahahaha ... old fraud. Rick |
Larry W4CSC wrote:
I offered to bring an IFR over to CG Charleston and TURN UP THE DEVIATION ON THEIR VHF RADIOS.....so we could HEAR what was being said. To hear them, here, you must turn your VHF volume control to maximum, especially if the engine is running! It's been like that for years. That must have really impressed them a lot. Some old fart ham with no license to touch any other radio offers to adjust a CG radio ... And you wonder why they ignore you? Rick |
Jetcap wrote in
: Larry W4CSC wrote: I offered to bring an IFR over to CG Charleston and TURN UP THE DEVIATION ON THEIR VHF RADIOS.....so we could HEAR what was being said. To hear them, here, you must turn your VHF volume control to maximum, especially if the engine is running! It's been like that for years. That must have really impressed them a lot. Some old fart ham with no license to touch any other radio offers to adjust a CG radio ... And you wonder why they ignore you? Rick Geez, Rick. You're beginning to sound like some kind of broken record. You can still kiss my ass, however. How's that? |
Larry W4CSC wrote:
Geez, Rick. You're beginning to sound like some kind of broken record. Tell us about all those licenses, Larry. Offering to adjust their radios .... bwhahahahahahahah ... the CG in Charleston must laugh their butts off at you. Rick |
Larry W4CSC wrote:
You can still kiss my ass, however. How's that? Sorry, Larry, I'm not into old farts with imaginary lives. Your fantasy life is already well documented in this group, no need to solicit my participation. |
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 03:44:09 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote:
That crappy PC board connector they expect you to leave out in the weather on the AT-130 antenna tuner and the crappy CB coax pigtail SO-239 connector CAN be eliminated at the tuner..... =============================== Mine will be installed in a reasonably dry location inside the flybridge console so hopefully I'll be able to duck some of those issues. |
In article WfiMd.80420$Tf5.73286@lakeread03,
"Jack Painter" wrote: Cannot comment on that case. Jack How can this be, Jack? You comment on everthing else........ Me |
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Jetcap wrote: Larry, So what kind of license do you have to make that call on HF? Neither you or "your captain" have a license according to the FCC. Tell us all about your First Class Phone and your GROL and your GMDSS Operator and Maintainer licenses again. Bwahahahahahahaha ... old fraud. Rick ANY US citizen can apply for and receive, a Restricted Radio Operator Permit (lifetime), that allows them to operate an Aircraft or Marine HF Transceiver installed abaord any US Flagged Vessel or Aircraft in noncommerical service, as well as commercial service on Uninspected Vessels. These are not numbered, so they don't show up in the FCC's Database of Licensed Persons. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Larry W4CSC wrote: chuck wrote in : Regarding your assertion that "making calls to a non-specific vessel or unit" for radio checks is prohibited, it would be useful to consider Section 80.89: Channel 9..... "Wappoo Cut Bridge, this is Lionheart, over?" "Lionheart this is Wappoo Cut Bridge, go ahead?" "Can you hear me ok, over?" "Sure, Lionheart. Sounds great." "Thank you for a great service to all of us. Lionheart out." (She usually thanks you for saying something nice.) Bridgetenders are great people. One of them made all the new cushions and curtains in her home upholstery business for Lionheart! They don't mind talking to you from their boring jobs, especially if it's not busy. Too bad many are losing their jobs they've had for so many years....dumped for the new high bridges..... FCC Rules permit you to call your favorite bridgetenders on Channel 9 without the CG bitching you out.....(c; Actually you have been able to contact Bridge Tenders on Channel 13 (the Navigation Channel) for MANY years, but a few years back, the FCC and USCG decided to move those Comms to Channel 9, when they designated that Channel as a Secondary Calling Channel in the Maritime Mobile Radio Service. This was advised, so as to free up Channel 13 for strictly Bridge to Bridge Radio Traffic. Me -- Bruce (semiretired powderman & exFCC Field Inspector for Southeastern Alaska) add a 2 before @ Bruce Gordon * Debora Gordon R.N. Bruce's Trading Post P.O. Box EXI Excursion Inlet South Juneau, Alaska 99850 Excursion Inlet, Alaska 99850 www.btpost.net www.99850.net |
(She usually thanks you for saying something nice.)
Bridgetenders are great people... Interesting. Out of all the many bridges on the ICW, the Wapoo Creek operators (one on the way down, another on the way up) were the only ones that we had trouble with. Doug s/v Callista |
Bruce in Alaska wrote:
ANY US citizen can apply for and receive, a Restricted Radio Operator Permit (lifetime), that allows them to operate an Aircraft or Marine HF Transceiver installed abaord any US Flagged Vessel or Aircraft in noncommerical service, as well as commercial service on Uninspected Vessels. These are not numbered, so they don't show up in the FCC's Database of Licensed Persons. Once again the FCC seems to believe otherwise. Check out: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...rchLicense.jsp and enter Butler, Larry under the selection for Restricted Radio Operators ... put in Smith and you will get a whole page of Restricted Radio Operators with license numbers. Face it, Larry is a fraud who doesn't hold any license other than his ham ticket and has repeatedly trashed many here for not having the licenses he claims to hold. He cannot sumbit a single license number to prove otherwise. He was run off once already when he got caught in his stupid tirade about GMDSS, which showed his ignorance so badly it was obvious he didn't have any GMDSS training, certifications or commercial marine qualifications whatsoever. Now the old goat rants because the CG won't let him adjust their VHF radios ... what a loon. He is a fraud. Rick |
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"Jack Painter" wrote in message news:jxhMd.80413$Tf5.67754@lakeread03... "Larry W4CSC" wrote So, tell us how DO you know what area you can hear on your HF net? Noone transmits for fear of raising your ire. Can you hear Florida today? Galveston? 100 miles out? 200? 500? What magic on that dead HF frequency tells you the sun has exploded, again, and communications is useless? Surely you're not depending on WWV's propagation forecast, are you? If we observe the two quiet periods for emergency traffic calls, wouldn't it be better for everyone involved if you knew what boats/ships are also your ears and eyes on the frequency, expanding your pitiful little receiving antenna cross section by several thousand miles? "CG Net this is WDB-6254, "Lionheart" at 32 24N, 75 12W checkin, no traffic monitoring 802 for next 2 hours." Aha! I can hear a 150W insulated backstay offshore of Charleston on Channel 802 at this time. HE, on the other hand, will HELP me monitor the frequency, relaying to areas I cannot hear because of propagation, any calls that get no answers from me. What harm have I done to Coast Guard Communications? They USED to do it on CW, you know! It's how I learned the code when I was 10 in 1956.....(c; This is precisely why hams "waste bandwidth", as you say.....see? When I operate from my station, I use every resource available to me, and it is everything you would expect a radio operator to do. When operating from the net control of a vast resource of hundreds of antennas and transmitters and receivers across thousands of miles, supplemented with satellites, there is no such concern about "will I be able to hear San Juan"? I only have three antennas and I can get the job done pretty well too from Newfoundland to South America, day or night. I carefully chose the antennas to do the job, and 99% of the time I can do it on 125 watts. You're confusing radio hobbyists who like to chat with each other and feel accomplishment in their hobby and equipment by reinforcing that they can talk to the same stations in the same places over, and over and over, with the reason that ships are at sea, which is not a hobby. Professional mariners, which make up the overwhelming majority of all high seas travelers, have no such time or reason to chat on amateur nets or on official frequencies reserved for hailing and distress. The real blue water sailors of a hobbyist ilk, have options in a communication suite that leaves about zero chance that an emergency call would not be heard and relayed to appropriate authorities. Amateur maritime mobile service nets make up one small and nonetheless important part of that but only where pleasure craft or third-world fishing vessels are concerned. The USCG just finished supervising the rescue of four people far from Bermuda who set of an EPIRB. Until the good Samaritan vessel directed to the scene by the Coast Guard arrived tonight, the USCG C-130 had already found them, and supplied comfort, communications, food, water and blankets, along with the assuredness that surface rescue was on the way. One EPIRB did that for them. Where communications came into play was with the USCG's ability to contact all area vessels and vector the appropriate ones to the scene. I had no problem hearing every word that was passed to and from the C-130 and if a major solar flare had happened, they could have changed altitude, changed frequencies, and as a last resort, used other more expensive forms of communication. What you allude to is totally unnecessary and serves only the brotherhood of clubs who need social interaction to remain a coherent organization. That's not contested or misunderstood by me, but I think you believe they do this for reasons which modern communicators would find frivolous. Or fun. Take your pick. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia I would like to throw out a challenge to all the real ham operators, CG and CG Auxiliary personnel finger pointing at each other here. Hams, join the Auxiliary, take their AuxCom course, have your security background checked and licenses verified, then complete the CG Radio Watchstander qualification at the local CG unit and contribute your communications skills and background to assisting the Coast Guard. There are CG Auxiliary nets on VHF-FM also. Also, write your Congress members, asking they make funding and implementation of Rescue 21 and GMDSS a priority for the Coast Guard. The problem is congressional guys, not some dunderhead in uniform dragging his feet on upgrading the system. Similarly, I challenge the CG and CG Auxiliary non-ham members here to get a real ham license, General Class or higher, then take some ARES ENCOMM course and become an active participant in a traffic net or emergency net. Your might even enjoy chatting on CG ham nets or Auxiliary ham nets (yes, they exist!). They are fraternal in nature. Aren't we all trying to provide communications channels for boaters at sea? If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem! I have been a ham for only 48 years, and have only 9 years (broken service in the Auxiliary) as a communicator, aircraft owner and pilot flying sundown and SAR missions, flotilla commander, etc. I also have 20 years active in the US Navy communications field. CG, CG Auxiliary, Navy, NavyMarineCorpsCoastGuard MARS, and ham radio should compliment each other and not be competitive. Each has its strengths and weaknesses. Regarding CG HF equipment, in 84-86, when I was stationed on Adak Island, AK in the Aleutians, us Navy guys were very envious of the modern, remotely tuned HF Collins equipment that CG Kodiak controlled there. It was a far cry from the R-390A's, etc we had for HF reception. I can not speak for the CG, but the Navy has since roughly 1980 used a commercially available unit called a "chip sounder" which sends a pulse burst straight up from a shore based antenna, takes measurements on the return echo such as signal + noise/noise and time delay, then the frequency is stepped up and another pulse stream sent out, measurements made, etc. This results in a spectrum plot of that stations propagation, ionosphere layer height, maximum useable frequency, etc, from which optimum useable frequency for long haul communications is calculated. It is the military way of avoiding the "no traffic checkins" to determine who can hear whom. I think the ham radio method is much cheaper, but was thankful to the taxpayers for giving us this fancy equipment to use. Back in the days of mandatory commercial Morse operators aboard commercial high seas vessels, finding a non-ham radio officer was a rarity. These guys stood their required watches professionally, and enjoyed their avocation as ham hobbyist also. Why are we arguing here? The old time real radio operators enjoyed the best of both worlds. 73 Doug, K7ABX; CG Auxiliary, Assistant District Staff Officer-Communications (South), 13th District |
Wayne.B wrote in
: On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 03:44:09 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote: That crappy PC board connector they expect you to leave out in the weather on the AT-130 antenna tuner and the crappy CB coax pigtail SO-239 connector CAN be eliminated at the tuner..... =============================== Mine will be installed in a reasonably dry location inside the flybridge console so hopefully I'll be able to duck some of those issues. Keep in mind the antenna actually begins at the high voltage connector on the tuner and the unshielded wire to the actual antenna is also part of the transmit antenna. RF inside a console full of electronics has dire consequences as it induces big RF signals into every power cable, unshielded NMEA stupid cable and those idiotic open connections. It can scramble almost all the plastic-cased electronics, destroying them if it gets strong enough. The tuner is quite sealed, after you get rid of the cheap connectors hanging out of it. Ours is as clean as the day I installed it on top of the aft cabin house directly aft of the mizzenmast. Its connecting wire to the 55' long backstay antenna is about 8" long for this reason. It still causes the stupid, unshielded propane detector in the galley to go crazy by inducing RF into its control wires back to the electric gas valve in the stern. It beeps like crazy when transmitting on HF. Oh, please don't let anyone use coax with the shield grounded between the tuner and the antenna (whip I'd guess). Don't let them "neatly" tywrap it to anything metal, running it through a grounded stuffing tube to go outside, either. All this shunt capacitance to ground makes tuning tough on the tuner and bleeds off your transmitted signal to the rigging, instead of out on the air. I see so many tywrapped to the grounded part of rigging on its way up to some elevated insulator, "to protect the passengers". How silly, the RF is very strong in that insulated wire going up there. I've never seen anyone killed by 150W from these little transmitters. 1.5KW from a ham rig is another matter...(c; |
4 MPGB069401 BUTLER, LARRY C CM Active 03/27/2005
5 PG198444 BUTLER, LARRY D CM Active 6 PGGB02150 BUTLER, LARRY W CM Active 7 W4CSC BUTLER, LARRY E 0003505047 HV Active 02/15/2010 Jetcap wrote: Bruce in Alaska wrote: ANY US citizen can apply for and receive, a Restricted Radio Operator Permit (lifetime), that allows them to operate an Aircraft or Marine HF Transceiver installed abaord any US Flagged Vessel or Aircraft in noncommerical service, as well as commercial service on Uninspected Vessels. These are not numbered, so they don't show up in the FCC's Database of Licensed Persons. Once again the FCC seems to believe otherwise. Check out: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...rchLicense.jsp and enter Butler, Larry under the selection for Restricted Radio Operators ... put in Smith and you will get a whole page of Restricted Radio Operators with license numbers. Face it, Larry is a fraud who doesn't hold any license other than his ham ticket and has repeatedly trashed many here for not having the licenses he claims to hold. He cannot sumbit a single license number to prove otherwise. He was run off once already when he got caught in his stupid tirade about GMDSS, which showed his ignorance so badly it was obvious he didn't have any GMDSS training, certifications or commercial marine qualifications whatsoever. Now the old goat rants because the CG won't let him adjust their VHF radios ... what a loon. He is a fraud. Rick |
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k.net: Back in the days of mandatory commercial Morse operators aboard commercial high seas vessels, finding a non-ham radio officer was a rarity. These guys stood their required watches professionally, and enjoyed their avocation as ham hobbyist also. Why are we arguing here? The old time real radio operators enjoyed the best of both worlds. 73 Doug, K7ABX; CG Auxiliary, Assistant District Staff Officer-Communications (South), 13th District For me, it would be the same reason I'm no longer in NAVMARS or CAP. The politics, backstabbing and other nonsense got me out of those. "What rank are you?", some CAP wannabee colonel would ask me in my Levis and T-shirt, all setup in the pouring down rain to provide 4585 Khz and 148.15 comms in my non-CAP-funded motorhome when some plane was down. "Corporal", I'd always reply. "Who cares? We've been here for 3 hours. Why did it take you Wing guys so long to get here?" The guy could have died while waiting for them to put on their dress blues to look sharp for the TV cams. I've had CGAUX inspection stickers on every boat I've owned, even the jetskis, in the last 20 years. Noone in CG, County Gestapo, DNR Gestapo in their flak jackets and camo gunboats...none of them...ever gave a damned that I was in full compliance, not only with the minimum requirements, but with the CGAUX's extra requirements for that sticker. They still had to pull me over and upset my guests aboard to look at the damned fire extinguishers to see if they were charged...negating any reason to go through all the CGAUX inspections in the first place. I never figured out why. I've been stopped for inspection 5 times in ONE DAY by THREE different bureaucracies! I joined SkyWarn and offered to help Charleston's weather bureaucrats set up a fine VHF/HF ham radio station over at their headquarters, WX4CHS. After getting the runaround for a few months, I found they weren't really interested in having WX4CHS on the air. Some big bureaucrat was shoving it down the little bureaucrats' throats as a "requirement". So, the station has this little vertical antenna that's NOT going to survive ANY windstorm, let alone Hurricane Hugo. It makes them happy. I left my gummit ID badge on the desk on my way out. If anyone needs emergency comms on any freq between 1.8 and 30.0 Mhz, I can provide CW/AM/SSB/packet/AMTOR-SITOR/PSK16-31 and RTTY with 650 watts of HF RF power to an omnidirectional large, erectable anywhere antenna with 3KW of emergency AC power in my old Air Force stepvan any time it's needed. The system can also provide VHF to VHF to HF packet gateway service as well as dual-band APRS inband and crossband repeater service. I can provide phone patch service if there's a live phone line available. If Knology Cable is available, I can also provide gateway service to the internet. Give me a couple hours notice and point me to the spot to set up. I'll be there....just so long as I don't have to wear some silly wannabe uniform and play soldier. |
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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in
: (She usually thanks you for saying something nice.) Bridgetenders are great people... Interesting. Out of all the many bridges on the ICW, the Wapoo Creek operators (one on the way down, another on the way up) were the only ones that we had trouble with. Doug s/v Callista What kind of "trouble"? I'd be glad to talk to them, in person, to straighten out any misunderstanding you had with them. Was the bridge stuck at the time? They usually get a little excited when it won't lock back down. In SC, we divert road and bridge funding away from where it's needed to Mt Pleasant, where the politician-lawyers' mansions are, which lets the rest of the infrastructure cave in. The old swing bridge at Main Road on John's Island, SC, has been replaced with a 55' high span, now, because the lawyer-doctors didn't like to wait on their way to the Kiawah and Seabrook Island resort homes. There's no bridge tenders there, any more. The Stono River swing bridge is also gone to a 55' span so Kiawah and Seabrook lawyers can get to court downtown, too. |
Our experiences were not all that serious, just annoying enough
that when I hear Wapoo Creek I flash back. On the way down, we timed our departure from City Marina so that we would arrive at the bridge just before opening time. We arrived 2 minutes before the hour but the operator said we were too late. We had to mill around until the next opening. On the way back up, we arrived way early with another boat. We both milled around awaiting the next opening. As the time neared the operator instructed us to approach the bridge and she would open it when we were close. As we neared the bridge a tug/barge came through the bridge. We had to scoot out of the way while being swept towards to bridge by the current. We couldn't come about so had to tread water in reverse while being squeezed between the barge and the shallows. The wake from the barge complicated matters as did the fact that she still hadn;t raised the bridge. She made us jockey around for another 5 minutes before finally opening the bridge. Doug s/v Callista "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in : (She usually thanks you for saying something nice.) Bridgetenders are great people... Interesting. Out of all the many bridges on the ICW, the Wapoo Creek operators (one on the way down, another on the way up) were the only ones that we had trouble with. Doug s/v Callista What kind of "trouble"? I'd be glad to talk to them, in person, to straighten out any misunderstanding you had with them. Was the bridge stuck at the time? They usually get a little excited when it won't lock back down. In SC, we divert road and bridge funding away from where it's needed to Mt Pleasant, where the politician-lawyers' mansions are, which lets the rest of the infrastructure cave in. The old swing bridge at Main Road on John's Island, SC, has been replaced with a 55' high span, now, because the lawyer-doctors didn't like to wait on their way to the Kiawah and Seabrook Island resort homes. There's no bridge tenders there, any more. The Stono River swing bridge is also gone to a 55' span so Kiawah and Seabrook lawyers can get to court downtown, too. |
krj wrote:
7 W4CSC BUTLER, LARRY E 0003505047 HV Active That's the only one he holds according to the FCC. A ham vanity call. No GROL, no GMDSS operator, no "GMDSS maintainer, nothing else. Of course if he does he is perfectly free to post the numbers here and prove that he has the paper to backup his claims. He ran away last time he got caught. And he thinks the CG ops are jerks because they wouldn't let him adjust their radios ... Rick |
Doug Dotson wrote:
Sorry Rick. You'll have to do better than that. It appears that older restricted permits are not listed. I will concede that Larry may hold an old restricted radiotelephone ticket, one of those licenses far easier to obtain than the "giveaway" GROL or GMDSS tickets he was sneering at before he got caught lying about his own license level. "Better" than what? Larry is the one trashing a lot of good people who actually hold the licenses he says are useless while he claims to hold tickets he doesn't. He is a fraud, a ham who is bent and bitter that no one will let him play radio operator outside his closet. Rick |
Larry W4CSC wrote:
If anyone needs emergency comms on any freq between 1.8 and 30.0 Mhz, I can Good thing you specified "emergency" because you aren't licensed to do squat outside the ham bands (and marine bands while onboard that plastic sailboat) you old fraud. Not to mention the idea of advertising to provide "emergency" comms seems a bit peculiar ... are your customers supposed to call you on the phone to obtain that service? Rick |
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