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Michael Holz November 1st 04 11:36 AM

BiggIR SW vertical Antenna
 
Hi!
Anybody using it on a vessel?
http://www.steppir.com/press/press-8...ir_smallir.htm

thx Michael



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Wayne.B November 1st 04 01:13 PM

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:36:05 +0100, "Michael Holz"
wrote:
Hi!
Anybody using it on a vessel?
http://www.steppir.com/press/press-8...ir_smallir.htm

thx Michael


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Never buy anything on the internet from someone who can not spell or
proof read.


Michael Holz November 1st 04 01:24 PM

"Wayne.B" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Never buy anything on the internet from someone who can not spell or
proof read.


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"Homedrinking is killing Gastwirt!"



Doug Dotson November 1st 04 11:55 PM

Would you like to clarify that comment?

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:36:05 +0100, "Michael Holz"
wrote:
Hi!
Anybody using it on a vessel?
http://www.steppir.com/press/press-8...ir_smallir.htm

thx Michael


=================================

Never buy anything on the internet from someone who can not spell or
proof read.




Wayne.B November 2nd 04 06:11 AM

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:55:38 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

Would you like to clarify that comment?


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The web site for the antenna contained numerous spelling errors. To
me that is not the mark of a professional organization that I'd like
to do business with. Just my opinion of course, but I do a fair
amount of purchasing from internet web sites and quality of the
appearance is one of the criteria that I use when judging companies.


Geoff Schultz November 2nd 04 02:08 PM

Wayne.B wrote in
:

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:55:38 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

Would you like to clarify that comment?


=====================================

The web site for the antenna contained numerous spelling errors. To
me that is not the mark of a professional organization that I'd like
to do business with. Just my opinion of course, but I do a fair
amount of purchasing from internet web sites and quality of the
appearance is one of the criteria that I use when judging companies.


So if they wouldn't have mispelled "performace" and "lenght" and "stip"
(strip) would you have considered their product. No one ever said that
engineers could spell and they probably don't have the resources to hire an
expensive marketing firm. That doesn't mean that they don't have a good
product. While web site appearance is nice, anyone can put lipstick on a
pig, but it's still a pig.

-- Geoff

Wayne.B November 2nd 04 02:26 PM

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:08:44 GMT, Geoff Schultz
wrote:
So if they wouldn't have mispelled "performace" and "lenght" and "stip"
(strip) would you have considered their product. No one ever said that
engineers could spell


I resemble that remark but I can proof read and spell check :-)

and they probably don't have the resources to hire an
expensive marketing firm.


OK, and what does that say about their long term staying power and
commitment in a competetive marketplace?

That doesn't mean that they don't have a good
product.


It might turn out to be a great product IDEA but it takes a solid
organization to make it a truly great *product*.

While web site appearance is nice, anyone can put lipstick on a
pig, but it's still a pig.


That's true of course but when you are evaluating an untested company
and an untested product, you have to start somewhere.


Geoff Schultz November 2nd 04 04:27 PM

Wayne.B wrote in
:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:08:44 GMT, Geoff Schultz
wrote:
So if they wouldn't have mispelled "performace" and "lenght" and "stip"
(strip) would you have considered their product. No one ever said that
engineers could spell


I resemble that remark but I can proof read and spell check :-)

and they probably don't have the resources to hire an
expensive marketing firm.


OK, and what does that say about their long term staying power and
commitment in a competetive marketplace?


If you look at the rest of their web site you'd have seen that they have a
lot of other products and appear to have been around for quite a while.
It's not a very professional web site and its aimed at hams. I do agree
that running a spell checker is an easy thing to do. I think that you're
cutting yourself short if you base your purchasing criteria on web site
design and spelling.

I worked for Digital Equipment Corp of 14 years and I can remember
marketing turning out beautiful looking brochures with technical mistakes.
Back then I would I sworn to DEC's staying power, but now 20+ years later
we had DEC-Compaq-HP...

-- Geoff

Wayne.B November 2nd 04 08:27 PM

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:27:12 GMT, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

I worked for Digital Equipment Corp of 14 years and I can remember
marketing turning out beautiful looking brochures with technical mistakes.
Back then I would I sworn to DEC's staying power, but now 20+ years later
we had DEC-Compaq-HP...


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DEC did turn out some nice looking brochures, no question. Most of
the hardware worked reasonably well also, but the middleware software,
that was a disaster. My company spent about a kazillion $$$s trying
to make a product work that was ironically called the "Reliable
Transaction Router" (RTR). In the end I think Digital was squeezed
off from below by increasingly powerful and inexpensive PCs. When
they tried to take the high end with the 64 bit Alpha, they were over
their heads and up against well entrenched competition.


Doug November 3rd 04 12:44 AM

Wow, you sure tripped my nostalgia trigger. I remember studying DEC PDP-5
hardware when in US Navy data systems technician school, although we were
using Univac digital trainers for hands on work. Later I serviced some PDP-8
and of course, lots of PDP-11 based systems, some painted navy grey so the
taxpayers could be charged more. Seems to me DEC was just down the road
from another giant in its time, Wang..
Doug K7ABX

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:27:12 GMT, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

I worked for Digital Equipment Corp of 14 years and I can remember
marketing turning out beautiful looking brochures with technical

mistakes.
Back then I would I sworn to DEC's staying power, but now 20+ years later
we had DEC-Compaq-HP...


===============================

DEC did turn out some nice looking brochures, no question. Most of
the hardware worked reasonably well also, but the middleware software,
that was a disaster. My company spent about a kazillion $$$s trying
to make a product work that was ironically called the "Reliable
Transaction Router" (RTR). In the end I think Digital was squeezed
off from below by increasingly powerful and inexpensive PCs. When
they tried to take the high end with the 64 bit Alpha, they were over
their heads and up against well entrenched competition.





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