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Gary
 
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I recently bought a 1995 320 Albemarle Express Fisherman. It has a Furuno
1830 Radar and a Garmin 220 GPS. In reading through the manuals for these
pieces of equipment, I have noticed that it's possible to connect a GPS to
the radar and it will display some nav information on the Radar unit as well
as having the ability to plot the speed and direction of various targets on
the radar.

Is this simply a matter of purchasing and attaching some sort of cord
between the units, and if so, where do I get this? I am not sure if they
are fairly universal or do I need to contact one of the vendors for this,
and if so, which one...Furuno or Garmin?

Is there more to it than this? Any idea how much it costs?

Thanks!

Gary

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"Gary" wrote in
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I recently bought a 1995 320 Albemarle Express Fisherman. It has a
Furuno 1830 Radar and a Garmin 220 GPS. In reading through the
manuals for these pieces of equipment, I have noticed that it's
possible to connect a GPS to the radar and it will display some nav
information on the Radar unit as well as having the ability to plot
the speed and direction of various targets on the radar.

Is this simply a matter of purchasing and attaching some sort of cord
between the units, and if so, where do I get this? I am not sure if
they are fairly universal or do I need to contact one of the vendors
for this, and if so, which one...Furuno or Garmin?

Is there more to it than this? Any idea how much it costs?

Thanks!

Gary


You can find the owner's manual on the Furuno web site. Your specific
manual is at

http://www.furuno.com/Furuno/Doc/0/U...KU2HHIG03/1830
+Operator%27s+Manual.pdf

If it's like my Furuno you'll simply need to get a Garmin cable and connect
the NMEA output from it to the radar.

-- Geoff
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:27:49 GMT, "Geoffrey W. Schultz"
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If it's like my Furuno you'll simply need to get a Garmin cable and connect
the NMEA output from it to the radar.


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Is that sufficient to support the so called "ARP" plotting functions,
or do you also need a flux gate compass to provide heading
information?

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Bruce in Alaska
 
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Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:27:49 GMT, "Geoffrey W. Schultz"
wrote:

If it's like my Furuno you'll simply need to get a Garmin cable and connect
the NMEA output from it to the radar.


=========================================

Is that sufficient to support the so called "ARP" plotting functions,
or do you also need a flux gate compass to provide heading
information?


No, ARPA functions are much more complicated that the simple NEMA
interface on the small commercial Furuno Radars. You need an compass
input to get the Waypoint Popsicle on the Radar Display. ARPA takes a
complete ARPA Unit which is a complete cpu based system that is in
addition to the basic radar display system.

Bruce in alaska
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:33:42 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
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ARPA takes a
complete ARPA Unit which is a complete cpu based system that is in
addition to the basic radar display system.


======================================

I'm under the impression that ARPA is included on the Furuno 1833 that
I've been considering. Is that not correct? I would like to be able
to eliminate the flux gate compass requirement by assuming COG =
heading but not sure if it's possible.



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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:33:42 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote:

ARPA takes a
complete ARPA Unit which is a complete cpu based system that is in
addition to the basic radar display system.


======================================

I'm under the impression that ARPA is included on the Furuno 1833 that
I've been considering. Is that not correct? I would like to be able
to eliminate the flux gate compass requirement by assuming COG =
heading but not sure if it's possible.

The ARP11 (10 target ARPA) is listed as an option for your radar. As far as
the data connection between the GPS and radar, if the Garmin cable is the
same as most of the others they make it would have some un-terminated wires
plus the red and black for power. You need the NEMA data cable for the radar
(the one with the bare ends). Nothing more then connecting 2 wires from each
cable and setting up the data outputs and inputs on each unit. Sorry I can't
remember the colors you need to connect and the info is at work.

Andy K.


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I needed two cables to connect my Garmin GPS to my Furuno 1622 Radar.
The Garmin cable costs about $35. It has a Garmin connector on one end and a
serial connector (for a PC) on the other.
My Furuno cable cost about $60. It has a Furuno cable on one end and bare
wires on the other.
I wired a serial connector to the Furuno bare wires and plug one serial
connector into the other.
Your Furuno may just have screw posts for the Garmin wires to connect to.
When the GPS is wired to the radar, the radar disply can indicate your
course and speed, latitude and longitude, and waypoint bearing and distance.

"Geoffrey W. Schultz" wrote in message
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"Gary" wrote in
:

I recently bought a 1995 320 Albemarle Express Fisherman. It has a
Furuno 1830 Radar and a Garmin 220 GPS. In reading through the
manuals for these pieces of equipment, I have noticed that it's
possible to connect a GPS to the radar and it will display some nav
information on the Radar unit as well as having the ability to plot
the speed and direction of various targets on the radar.

Is this simply a matter of purchasing and attaching some sort of cord
between the units, and if so, where do I get this? I am not sure if
they are fairly universal or do I need to contact one of the vendors
for this, and if so, which one...Furuno or Garmin?

Is there more to it than this? Any idea how much it costs?

Thanks!

Gary


You can find the owner's manual on the Furuno web site. Your specific
manual is at

http://www.furuno.com/Furuno/Doc/0/U...KU2HHIG03/1830
+Operator%27s+Manual.pdf

If it's like my Furuno you'll simply need to get a Garmin cable and

connect
the NMEA output from it to the radar.

-- Geoff



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I saw a few people said something about needing a fluxgate compass. I also
have a Robertson AP3000X autopilot that is connected to a fluxgate compass.
Am I going to need 3 cables now, or is the GPS most likely connected to the
fluxgate compass already?


"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
I recently bought a 1995 320 Albemarle Express Fisherman. It has a Furuno
1830 Radar and a Garmin 220 GPS. In reading through the manuals for these
pieces of equipment, I have noticed that it's possible to connect a GPS to
the radar and it will display some nav information on the Radar unit as

well
as having the ability to plot the speed and direction of various targets

on
the radar.

Is this simply a matter of purchasing and attaching some sort of cord
between the units, and if so, where do I get this? I am not sure if they
are fairly universal or do I need to contact one of the vendors for this,
and if so, which one...Furuno or Garmin?

Is there more to it than this? Any idea how much it costs?

Thanks!

Gary

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In " The Radar Book - Effective Navigation and Collision Avoidance " by
Kevin Monahan, he points out that the compass bearing given by a GPS will be
unstable at low speeds. If you want your radar to show proper compass
bearings and work in the North-up/Course-up modes he says you must connect
to some type of fluxgate or gyro compass. So if you just connect your GPS
NMEA output to your radar it seems you may not get correct heading
information while creeping along at low speed, for example, in fog.

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I saw a few people said something about needing a fluxgate compass. I also
have a Robertson AP3000X autopilot that is connected to a fluxgate
compass.
Am I going to need 3 cables now, or is the GPS most likely connected to
the
fluxgate compass already?


"Gary" wrote in message
. ..
I recently bought a 1995 320 Albemarle Express Fisherman. It has a
Furuno
1830 Radar and a Garmin 220 GPS. In reading through the manuals for
these
pieces of equipment, I have noticed that it's possible to connect a GPS
to
the radar and it will display some nav information on the Radar unit as

well
as having the ability to plot the speed and direction of various targets

on
the radar.

Is this simply a matter of purchasing and attaching some sort of cord
between the units, and if so, where do I get this? I am not sure if they
are fairly universal or do I need to contact one of the vendors for this,
and if so, which one...Furuno or Garmin?

Is there more to it than this? Any idea how much it costs?

Thanks!

Gary

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:41:29 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"
wrote:

In " The Radar Book - Effective Navigation and Collision Avoidance " by
Kevin Monahan, he points out that the compass bearing given by a GPS will be
unstable at low speeds. If you want your radar to show proper compass
bearings and work in the North-up/Course-up modes he says you must connect
to some type of fluxgate or gyro compass. So if you just connect your GPS
NMEA output to your radar it seems you may not get correct heading
information while creeping along at low speed, for example, in fog.

"Gary" wrote in message
m...
I saw a few people said something about needing a fluxgate compass. I also
have a Robertson AP3000X autopilot that is connected to a fluxgate
compass.
Am I going to need 3 cables now, or is the GPS most likely connected to
the
fluxgate compass already?


Monahan's book may predate the discontinuance of selective
availability. You have to be going very slowly indeed to make the GPS
track reading less stable than a mag compass nowadays.

It is easy enough to compare on your own boat.





Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Religious wisdom is to wisdom as military music is to music."


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