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William G. Andersen October 1st 04 10:30 PM

adding instrument light/backlight
 
Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?
I want to add interior illumination to the display panel of my Si-Tex 525
ADF. It has three lights for operation and they're very bright: I think it
would be easier on my eyes at night if the face of the panel was softly
illuminated. Si-Tex only states they don't offer an illumination mode.
I'm thinking of a small 12 volt bulb inserted in a notch on one edge -
thinking the light would be distributed through the clear panel.
An alternative would be to just mount one or two bulbs inside the case so
that the bulbs aren't directly visible, but so that the light would be
dispersed throughout the case.
In either case, I plan on wiring the bulb(s) to the power switch of the ADF.



Robert Miles October 2nd 04 08:39 AM

I would've thought that LED's would be better than bulbs.. last longer ..

Regards

"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6%j7d.12517$Hz.2496@fed1read04...
Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?
I want to add interior illumination to the display panel of my Si-Tex 525
ADF. It has three lights for operation and they're very bright: I think it
would be easier on my eyes at night if the face of the panel was softly
illuminated. Si-Tex only states they don't offer an illumination mode.
I'm thinking of a small 12 volt bulb inserted in a notch on one edge -
thinking the light would be distributed through the clear panel.
An alternative would be to just mount one or two bulbs inside the case so
that the bulbs aren't directly visible, but so that the light would be
dispersed throughout the case.
In either case, I plan on wiring the bulb(s) to the power switch of the
ADF.





William G. Andersen October 3rd 04 06:37 AM

But aren't LEDs very focused, directional light? I'm hoping for a soft
illumination - not another bright light.

"Robert Miles" wrote in message
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I would've thought that LED's would be better than bulbs.. last longer ..

Regards

"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6%j7d.12517$Hz.2496@fed1read04...
Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?
I want to add interior illumination to the display panel of my Si-Tex

525
ADF. It has three lights for operation and they're very bright: I think

it
would be easier on my eyes at night if the face of the panel was softly
illuminated. Si-Tex only states they don't offer an illumination mode.
I'm thinking of a small 12 volt bulb inserted in a notch on one edge -
thinking the light would be distributed through the clear panel.
An alternative would be to just mount one or two bulbs inside the case

so
that the bulbs aren't directly visible, but so that the light would be
dispersed throughout the case.
In either case, I plan on wiring the bulb(s) to the power switch of the
ADF.







Brent Geery October 3rd 04 11:01 AM

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:37:38 -0700, "William G. Andersen"
wrote:

"Robert Miles" wrote:

"William G. Andersen" wrote"

Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?


I would've thought that LED's would be better than bulbs.. last longer ..


But aren't LEDs very focused, directional light? I'm hoping for a soft
illumination - not another bright light.


Some LEDs are focused, some are defused. Worst case, you simply take
the focused LEDs and work on them a little with some sand paper (or a
sand blaster, if you have access to a small one.)

--
BRENT - The Usenet typo king. :)

Glenn Ashmore October 3rd 04 02:42 PM

An LED will disburse throughout a sheet of plastic and show up brightest at
any scratches, printing or other deformities in the surface. OTOH, if the
display is an LCD any light in front of the LCD array will make it a lot
harder to read. You have to light LCD displays from behind. That is
usually done by placing a frosted edge lit acrylic sheet or
electroluminecent panel behind the LCD array.


"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6eM7d.12872$Hz.10787@fed1read04...
But aren't LEDs very focused, directional light? I'm hoping for a soft
illumination - not another bright light.




William G. Andersen October 3rd 04 05:46 PM

Thanks for the information...now I need to take the time to open the case
and see what I can do.

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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An LED will disburse throughout a sheet of plastic and show up brightest

at
any scratches, printing or other deformities in the surface. OTOH, if

the
display is an LCD any light in front of the LCD array will make it a lot
harder to read. You have to light LCD displays from behind. That is
usually done by placing a frosted edge lit acrylic sheet or
electroluminecent panel behind the LCD array.


"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6eM7d.12872$Hz.10787@fed1read04...
But aren't LEDs very focused, directional light? I'm hoping for a soft
illumination - not another bright light.






Len Krauss October 5th 04 02:18 AM

I had a similar issue with lighting for two fuel gauges. I rewired the bulbs
to be in series which cut the brightness considerably. Also painted bulbs
red -- used special paint for this designed to take heat. Theatrical supply
places have it as do some mail order auto supply places. If you get lucky
you may actually be able to buy the right bulbs already colored red.
Len

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"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6%j7d.12517$Hz.2496@fed1read04...
Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?
I want to add interior illumination to the display panel of my Si-Tex 525
ADF. It has three lights for operation and they're very bright: I think it
would be easier on my eyes at night if the face of the panel was softly
illuminated. Si-Tex only states they don't offer an illumination mode.
I'm thinking of a small 12 volt bulb inserted in a notch on one edge -
thinking the light would be distributed through the clear panel.
An alternative would be to just mount one or two bulbs inside the case so
that the bulbs aren't directly visible, but so that the light would be
dispersed throughout the case.
In either case, I plan on wiring the bulb(s) to the power switch of the

ADF.





William G. Andersen October 5th 04 05:06 PM

Colored light bulbs are no problem. I painted the original bulbs in my
instrument lights with nail polish. The next week I saw colored light bulbs
in WalMart - very inexpensive.
So now I just need the time to take the display out of the boat and tinker
with it. I boat at least twice a week, so it may be a while before I have
the time...
My boat: http://members.cox.net/wgander/family_boat.htm

"Len Krauss" wrote in message
...
I had a similar issue with lighting for two fuel gauges. I rewired the

bulbs
to be in series which cut the brightness considerably. Also painted bulbs
red -- used special paint for this designed to take heat. Theatrical

supply
places have it as do some mail order auto supply places. If you get lucky
you may actually be able to buy the right bulbs already colored red.
Len

--
Eliminate "ns" for email address.
"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6%j7d.12517$Hz.2496@fed1read04...
Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?
I want to add interior illumination to the display panel of my Si-Tex

525
ADF. It has three lights for operation and they're very bright: I think

it
would be easier on my eyes at night if the face of the panel was softly
illuminated. Si-Tex only states they don't offer an illumination mode.
I'm thinking of a small 12 volt bulb inserted in a notch on one edge -
thinking the light would be distributed through the clear panel.
An alternative would be to just mount one or two bulbs inside the case

so
that the bulbs aren't directly visible, but so that the light would be
dispersed throughout the case.
In either case, I plan on wiring the bulb(s) to the power switch of the

ADF.







Doug October 5th 04 07:53 PM

This probably won't work if your display is LCD and needs back or side
lighting. However, a trick I have seen widely used in small aircraft is an
external red lamp shining onto an instrument cluster or radio panel. Eyebrow
lights are also used for panel mounts next to the device needing light.
Aircraft supply catalogs show goose neck lamps that can be mounted overhead
or adjacent to the devices. In one airplane I owned, the over head "dome"
lamp was red and had a dimmer potentiometer so the amount of light could be
controlled. I liked that setup most of time except when I moved my head or
shoulder to a point where I had a shadow cast upon an instrument.
Doug K7ABX

"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:gDz8d.24930$Hz.9852@fed1read04...
Colored light bulbs are no problem. I painted the original bulbs in my
instrument lights with nail polish. The next week I saw colored light

bulbs
in WalMart - very inexpensive.
So now I just need the time to take the display out of the boat and tinker
with it. I boat at least twice a week, so it may be a while before I have
the time...
My boat: http://members.cox.net/wgander/family_boat.htm

"Len Krauss" wrote in message
...
I had a similar issue with lighting for two fuel gauges. I rewired the

bulbs
to be in series which cut the brightness considerably. Also painted

bulbs
red -- used special paint for this designed to take heat. Theatrical

supply
places have it as do some mail order auto supply places. If you get

lucky
you may actually be able to buy the right bulbs already colored red.
Len

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Eliminate "ns" for email address.
"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6%j7d.12517$Hz.2496@fed1read04...
Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?
I want to add interior illumination to the display panel of my Si-Tex

525
ADF. It has three lights for operation and they're very bright: I

think
it
would be easier on my eyes at night if the face of the panel was

softly
illuminated. Si-Tex only states they don't offer an illumination mode.
I'm thinking of a small 12 volt bulb inserted in a notch on one edge -
thinking the light would be distributed through the clear panel.
An alternative would be to just mount one or two bulbs inside the case

so
that the bulbs aren't directly visible, but so that the light would be
dispersed throughout the case.
In either case, I plan on wiring the bulb(s) to the power switch of

the
ADF.









Len Krauss October 11th 04 02:32 PM

Be careful with nail polish to color incandescent bulbs, which I assume you
have. Some get quite hot, esp the bright ones. When I was a kid I did the
nail polish thing on boat instrument bulbs, and it gave off smoke that
clouded the instrument lenses. As these were sealed, the lenses couldn't be
cleaned. Instruments were still readable, but the cloudy appearance of
lenses wasn't pleasing.

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"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:gDz8d.24930$Hz.9852@fed1read04...
Colored light bulbs are no problem. I painted the original bulbs in my
instrument lights with nail polish. The next week I saw colored light

bulbs
in WalMart - very inexpensive.
So now I just need the time to take the display out of the boat and tinker
with it. I boat at least twice a week, so it may be a while before I have
the time...
My boat: http://members.cox.net/wgander/family_boat.htm

"Len Krauss" wrote in message
...
I had a similar issue with lighting for two fuel gauges. I rewired the

bulbs
to be in series which cut the brightness considerably. Also painted

bulbs
red -- used special paint for this designed to take heat. Theatrical

supply
places have it as do some mail order auto supply places. If you get

lucky
you may actually be able to buy the right bulbs already colored red.
Len

--
Eliminate "ns" for email address.
"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:6%j7d.12517$Hz.2496@fed1read04...
Anyone have ideas about how to add a light/backlight to an instrument?
I want to add interior illumination to the display panel of my Si-Tex

525
ADF. It has three lights for operation and they're very bright: I

think
it
would be easier on my eyes at night if the face of the panel was

softly
illuminated. Si-Tex only states they don't offer an illumination mode.
I'm thinking of a small 12 volt bulb inserted in a notch on one edge -
thinking the light would be distributed through the clear panel.
An alternative would be to just mount one or two bulbs inside the case

so
that the bulbs aren't directly visible, but so that the light would be
dispersed throughout the case.
In either case, I plan on wiring the bulb(s) to the power switch of

the
ADF.










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