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StageFT September 23rd 04 09:17 AM

AIS recieving systems
 
Hi!

I am searching for cheap Automatic Identification Systems, suitable for
small boates. I found some on the internet, but all of theme were on
the websites of dealers. What I want to know is some of the
manufactores of the systems. Does anybody here know some website of the
manufactores or other information?


Dave Baker September 23rd 04 10:07 AM

On 23 Sep 2004 01:17:55 -0700, "StageFT" wrote:

I am searching for cheap Automatic Identification Systems, suitable for
small boates. I found some on the internet, but all of theme were on
the websites of dealers. What I want to know is some of the
manufactores of the systems. Does anybody here know some website of the
manufactores or other information?


Are you looking for transceivers or just receivers?

I've just gotten quotes from a whole heap of manufacturers, and ended up
buying some from Nauticast. The Furuno FA-100 is also pretty cheap. All are
between US$3k & US$4k.

Manufacturers I can think of from the top of my head a

Nauticast, Furuno, L3, Simrad (Seatex)

Don't bother with TMQ in Australia unless they have changed tack - they first
said yes & then no.

Transas have a receiver-only unit - AISR T300.

Euronav (www.euronav.co.uk) have a receiver-only unit - AI3000

Jotron have the Tron UAIS TR-2500

Sealinks (www.sealinks.net) have a receive-only unit & vague plans (last time
I spoke to them) for a full B-class unit.

If you do get into AIS I've set up a discussion forum at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Maritime_AIS/
It's only set up recently & not "advertised" so no members yet. I've just
bought some AIS mobiles & AIS base stations which will be integrated with
DGPS reference stations & ECDIS displays for a vessel traffic monitoring
system. Still waiting for delivery, after which I expect to have lots of
questions myself! :-)

Dave

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StageFT September 23rd 04 10:20 AM

i'm searching for recieving only. the one you've bought, is that only a
reciever or also a transiever?
Thanx for the info, it's more then i could find on the i-net!
Laurence


Michael Holz September 23rd 04 10:43 AM

I am searching for cheap Automatic Identification Systems, suitable for
I think the one from euronav
http://www.euronav.co.uk/Products/Ha...3000AIS_RX.htm
is really interesting.
But you need a compatible Navsoft. (e.g. Seapro or Maxsea)

fair winds Michael


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"Homedrinking is killing Gastwirt!"



Dave Baker September 23rd 04 11:21 AM

On 23 Sep 2004 02:20:12 -0700, "StageFT" wrote:

i'm searching for recieving only. the one you've bought, is that only a
reciever or also a transiever?


The Nauticast is a transceiver - all units listed by me are transceivers
unless specified.

Originally I was looking at getting a receiver only, but then they talked
about Class B transceivers being the best option for small boats, so I waited
a while.

Since then I haven't found any Class B transceivers, but have watched the
price of Class A units fall from US$20k to US$11k to US$5k & now finally
below US$4k which was my original budget anyway. Now I may need to buy 65 of
them! :-)

The idea is that Class B units should cost around US$500 - the specs for them
were only recently finalized, so I presume they should start coming out
reasonably soon.

Dave

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Meindert Sprang September 23rd 04 12:18 PM

"Michael Holz" wrote in message
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I am searching for cheap Automatic Identification Systems, suitable for

I think the one from euronav

http://www.euronav.co.uk/Products/Ha...3000AIS_RX.htm
is really interesting.


And this one: http://www.ebigchina.com/ebcps/4/pd/254509.html costs only
half of the Euronav one.

Meindert



Doug September 24th 04 09:41 PM

I have installed a couple of the Furuno units for commercial customers.
Gyrocompass interfacing has to be looked into on larger vessels and so does
the External GPS. Furuno's built in GPS is called the Internal. I will
interfacing one soon with a Furuno AC120 GPS Compass instead of a gyro and
am anxious to see how that works out.
Doug K7ABX

"Dave Baker" wrote in message
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On 23 Sep 2004 02:20:12 -0700, "StageFT" wrote:

i'm searching for recieving only. the one you've bought, is that only a
reciever or also a transiever?


The Nauticast is a transceiver - all units listed by me are transceivers
unless specified.

Originally I was looking at getting a receiver only, but then they talked
about Class B transceivers being the best option for small boats, so I

waited
a while.

Since then I haven't found any Class B transceivers, but have watched the
price of Class A units fall from US$20k to US$11k to US$5k & now finally
below US$4k which was my original budget anyway. Now I may need to buy 65

of
them! :-)

The idea is that Class B units should cost around US$500 - the specs for

them
were only recently finalized, so I presume they should start coming out
reasonably soon.

Dave

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Bruce in Alaska September 25th 04 01:02 AM

In article ,
Dave Baker wrote:

On 23 Sep 2004 02:20:12 -0700, "StageFT" wrote:

i'm searching for recieving only. the one you've bought, is that only a
reciever or also a transiever?


The Nauticast is a transceiver - all units listed by me are transceivers
unless specified.

Originally I was looking at getting a receiver only, but then they talked
about Class B transceivers being the best option for small boats, so I waited
a while.

Since then I haven't found any Class B transceivers, but have watched the
price of Class A units fall from US$20k to US$11k to US$5k & now finally
below US$4k which was my original budget anyway. Now I may need to buy 65 of
them! :-)

The idea is that Class B units should cost around US$500 - the specs for them
were only recently finalized, so I presume they should start coming out
reasonably soon.

Dave

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Check out the following link.

http://www.shinemicro.com/

I have known the owner for many years, and he is one of the VERY Best
Marine Electronics Designers in the country. He has one of the best
resumes for RF and Digital Design, in the industry. Been on the cutting
edge of Marine Electronics Design, since we both worked at Northern
Radio Company back in the early 70's.



Bruce in alaska Tell Mark, that Bruce sent you
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Dave Baker September 25th 04 01:11 PM

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:02:52 GMT, Bruce in Alaska wrote:

Check out the following link.

http://www.shinemicro.com/


Actually I did - I was looking at buying his SL162B units back in December
last year when they first started advertising them, with an "Order Now!"
button:
http://www.sealinks.net/SL162BPage.htm

Pressing the Order button took me to a broken link (as it still does), so I
was surprised to get the reply to a follow-up email saying "The SL162B will
begin retailing in the second quarter of 2004".

Checked back again on 13th Feb asking for an update & was told " I have
forwarded this request to our President to find out if we are on a schedule
that will facilitate your timeframe.". Never heard from the President though.

Checked again on 27th Feb & was told "We expect new product to
be available in approximately 60 days. I will follow up on this question and
should (sic) more information this afternoon"

That was 210 days ago - never heard another thing. I note the SL162B units
are still advertised on the website, but not available in the online store.
"Order Now!" button still goes to broken link.

And still no word whether it will be Class A or Class B.

Dave

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Dave Baker September 25th 04 01:45 PM

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:41:11 GMT, "Doug" wrote:

I have installed a couple of the Furuno units for commercial customers.
Gyrocompass interfacing has to be looked into on larger vessels and so does
the External GPS.


Yeah, that's going to be a hassle. Quotes for gyro interfaces are a bit
worrying - US$455 for Furuno gyroconverters. I did hear that there are some
cheaper Chinese units, but haven't done any research there yet.

Also have to grab a large connection of plugs to hook into the main gps unit
on the boats I guess.

I will
interfacing one soon with a Furuno AC120 GPS Compass instead of a gyro and
am anxious to see how that works out.


We have been using a similar product - the CSI Wireless Vector Lite unit, for
a few months now. It's not hooked into AIS, but is used on drilling rigs that
we move around a lot. It's a lot easier than lugging around a portable gyro
unit all the time! :-) Accuracy has been great, and reliability also
excellent.

Dave

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