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Keith August 9th 04 01:10 PM

Proposed mandatory PFD law
 
The NTSB in their bureaucratic wisdom is proposing a rule to require ALL
people on recreational boats to WEAR PFD's ALL the time. Here is a link to
the site, and the e-mail address to send your comments to. Since boating has
continually gotten safer, I certainly see no need for this. I do support the
PFD laws for kids and small boats like canoes, kayaks, and PWCs. If you
don't want to end up wearing a life jacket all the time, send it your
comments!
____________________________
http://www.ntsb.gov/academy/CourseInfo/MS701_200408.htm
This site is the NTSB.
They are considering this month a rule to require all on board to wear PFD's
ALL THE TIME.

Check out the site and then e mail

Holloway, Keith (NTSB)


with whatever comments you have. Be nice!

--


Keith
__
A hangover is the wrath of grapes.



Chuck August 9th 04 03:36 PM

Proposed mandatory PFD law
 
Hmmmm. A little overstatement Keith?

It looks as though NTSB is holding a public forum,
for which a $25 registration fee is being charged,
to consider a number of issues relating to PFDs
and recreational boats. Not exactly a rulemaking
proceeding.

In fact, I doubt that NTSB has jurisdictional
authority to impose PFD rules on recreational
boaters anyway. Does anyone know the answer?

What is interesting is that 112.5 people who
drowned last year (of the 750 total) were actually
wearing PFDs!








Keith wrote:
The NTSB in their bureaucratic wisdom is proposing a rule to require ALL
people on recreational boats to WEAR PFD's ALL the time. Here is a link to
the site, and the e-mail address to send your comments to. Since boating has
continually gotten safer, I certainly see no need for this. I do support the
PFD laws for kids and small boats like canoes, kayaks, and PWCs. If you
don't want to end up wearing a life jacket all the time, send it your
comments!
____________________________
http://www.ntsb.gov/academy/CourseInfo/MS701_200408.htm
This site is the NTSB.
They are considering this month a rule to require all on board to wear PFD's
ALL THE TIME.

Check out the site and then e mail

Holloway, Keith (NTSB)


with whatever comments you have. Be nice!


MikeG August 9th 04 04:15 PM

Proposed mandatory PFD law
 
In article . net,
says...
Hmmmm. A little overstatement Keith?

It looks as though NTSB is holding a public forum,
for which a $25 registration fee is being charged,
to consider a number of issues relating to PFDs
and recreational boats. Not exactly a rulemaking
proceeding.

In fact, I doubt that NTSB has jurisdictional
authority to impose PFD rules on recreational
boaters anyway. Does anyone know the answer?

What is interesting is that 112.5 people who
drowned last year (of the 750 total) were actually
wearing PFDs!








Keith wrote:
The NTSB in their bureaucratic wisdom is proposing a rule to require ALL
people on recreational boats to WEAR PFD's ALL the time. Here is a link to
the site, and the e-mail address to send your comments to. Since boating has
continually gotten safer, I certainly see no need for this. I do support the
PFD laws for kids and small boats like canoes, kayaks, and PWCs. If you
don't want to end up wearing a life jacket all the time, send it your
comments!
____________________________
http://www.ntsb.gov/academy/CourseInfo/MS701_200408.htm
This site is the NTSB.
They are considering this month a rule to require all on board to wear PFD's
ALL THE TIME.

Check out the site and then e mail

Holloway, Keith (NTSB)


with whatever comments you have. Be nice!


The NTSB has no enforcement or rule making powers. They can only advise
the appropriate agency. Say the FAA on matters concerning air travel or,
in this case, I imagine, the Coast Guard.


--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net


David Brister August 9th 04 07:39 PM

Proposed mandatory PFD law
 
Of 112.5 who drowned

Was he/she only wearing half a lifejacket?

David Brister.



Larry August 9th 04 11:49 PM

Proposed mandatory PFD law
 
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 07:10:21 -0500, Keith wrote:

The NTSB in their bureaucratic wisdom is proposing a rule to require ALL
people on recreational boats to WEAR PFD's ALL the time. Here is a link to
the site, and the e-mail address to send your comments to. Since boating has
continually gotten safer, I certainly see no need for this. I do support the
PFD laws for kids and small boats like canoes, kayaks, and PWCs. If you
don't want to end up wearing a life jacket all the time, send it your
comments!
____________________________
http://www.ntsb.gov/academy/CourseInfo/MS701_200408.htm
This site is the NTSB.
They are considering this month a rule to require all on board to wear PFD's
ALL THE TIME.

Check out the site and then e mail

Holloway, Keith (NTSB)


with whatever comments you have. Be nice!


I didn't see where they were asking for comments. They did ask for
*papers* and the deadline for submission was August 2, 2004.
--

Larry
email is rapp at lmr dot com

M August 11th 04 12:13 AM

Proposed mandatory PFD law
 
I am not sure what the exact US law presently is, but several years ago,
Canadian law was changed to essentially state:
- one PFD for each person on board, and must fit properly
- the PFD must be in un-damaged condition (ie no tears, holes etc)
- the PFDs have to be available in easy access

Also, the devices able to be certified as PFDs increased to include colours
other than orange, and now include self inflating vests which only count as
a PFD when worn correctly.

some examples:

If you have 4 people on board, 2 children and 2 adults, but only have 4
adult PFDs on board,
then you are in violation.

If during an inspection it takes a while to find the proper number of
properly fitting PFDs, it is considered to be a violation.


The premise behind the modified legislation is reasonable to me, as:
- if a PFD is needed, it can only be used if it is available
- each PFD are designed to float a particular sized person head / face up.
An incorrectly sized PFD can force a person to float face down as is the
case with a child in an adult PFD.
- the inclusion of 'fashion colours' now makes it more acceptable to a
broader group of individuals.

There are bits of legislation that try to defeat Darwinianizm
The next stage would to mandate that all new boats include PFDs as standard
equipment rather than options.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
The NTSB in their bureaucratic wisdom is proposing a rule to require ALL
people on recreational boats to WEAR PFD's ALL the time. Here is a link to
the site, and the e-mail address to send your comments to. Since boating

has
continually gotten safer, I certainly see no need for this. I do support

the
PFD laws for kids and small boats like canoes, kayaks, and PWCs. If you
don't want to end up wearing a life jacket all the time, send it your
comments!
____________________________
http://www.ntsb.gov/academy/CourseInfo/MS701_200408.htm
This site is the NTSB.
They are considering this month a rule to require all on board to wear

PFD's
ALL THE TIME.

Check out the site and then e mail

Holloway, Keith (NTSB)


with whatever comments you have. Be nice!

--


Keith
__
A hangover is the wrath of grapes.






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