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David Brister August 1st 04 11:33 PM

Mooring
 
My 34 ft Abbatte has a Lofrans 12v anchor winch with a plain bearing
carrying the drum and gypsy. The boats on my marina are about evenly divided
between those that remove the bowline from the drum after mooring up and
cleat it, and those that leave the line on the drum. Some people say leaving
the line on the drum is slovenly and bad practice. We moor stern to the quay
here so it's a good idea to have tension on the bowline, specially if it is
windy.
I would be most grateful for some expert opinion.

Regards to all,

David Brister.



Doug Dotson August 2nd 04 12:44 AM

Mooring
 
I'm not sure that "slovenly" is the correct term, but yes, leaving the
line on the windlass is a bad idea. Bad on the bearings, gears, etc.

Doug
s/v Callista

"David Brister" wrote in message
...
My 34 ft Abbatte has a Lofrans 12v anchor winch with a plain bearing
carrying the drum and gypsy. The boats on my marina are about evenly

divided
between those that remove the bowline from the drum after mooring up and
cleat it, and those that leave the line on the drum. Some people say

leaving
the line on the drum is slovenly and bad practice. We moor stern to the

quay
here so it's a good idea to have tension on the bowline, specially if it

is
windy.
I would be most grateful for some expert opinion.

Regards to all,

David Brister.





Tom Dacon August 2nd 04 03:12 AM

Mooring
 
'Slovenly' is, I think, a little too emotionally-charged to suit the
circumstances, as far as I'm concerned. But if you ignore the name-calling
and character assassination, there's a reasonably good point to be made.

It's not hard to bend a windlass shaft under a heavy shock loading, and that
could possibly put the windlass out of commission. The rode's a long ways
away from the bearing and it has a lot of leverage. Of course you never
expect something like that to happen, but that's why they call them
accidents. A lot of people think that it's worth the trouble to take the
line off the windlass and cleat it to something really bullet-proof. If you
don't have a cleat that's really bullet-proof, consider building one into
the foredeck somewhere. Another possibility would be to take a shorter piece
of line and timber-hitch it to the rode well outside the bow chock, and then
cleat the other end of that to a foredeck cleat to take some of the load off
the windlass.

Nine hundred and ninety-nine times out of a thousand all this will be just
extra work with no payoff, but that thousandth time, when a harbor patrol or
Coast Guard boat rips through the bay at full speed responding to an
emergency and you take its wake right down the throat it might make the
difference.

Regards,
Tom Dacon

"David Brister" wrote in message
...
My 34 ft Abbatte has a Lofrans 12v anchor winch with a plain bearing
carrying the drum and gypsy. The boats on my marina are about evenly

divided
between those that remove the bowline from the drum after mooring up and
cleat it, and those that leave the line on the drum. Some people say

leaving
the line on the drum is slovenly and bad practice. We moor stern to the

quay
here so it's a good idea to have tension on the bowline, specially if it

is
windy.
I would be most grateful for some expert opinion.

Regards to all,

David Brister.





Doug Dotson August 2nd 04 04:31 AM

Mooring
 
"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
... But if you ignore the name-calling
and character assassination, there's a reasonably good point to be made.


Huh?



Tom Dacon August 3rd 04 05:45 PM

Mooring
 
What I meant by that was someone's accusing another boater of being
'slovenly', a situation which, by implication, the original poster appeared
to be describing. There certainly has not been any 'name calling and
character assassination' on this thread, although I've frequently noticed it
happening in the flame wars that sometimes go on in the newsgroups.

No offense intended,
Tom

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
"Tom Dacon" wrote in message
...
... But if you ignore the name-calling
and character assassination, there's a reasonably good point to be made.


Huh?





Peter Bennett August 4th 04 07:00 PM

Mooring
 
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 00:33:46 +0200, "David Brister"
wrote:

My 34 ft Abbatte has a Lofrans 12v anchor winch with a plain bearing
carrying the drum and gypsy. The boats on my marina are about evenly divided
between those that remove the bowline from the drum after mooring up and
cleat it, and those that leave the line on the drum. Some people say leaving
the line on the drum is slovenly and bad practice. We moor stern to the quay
here so it's a good idea to have tension on the bowline, specially if it is
windy.
I would be most grateful for some expert opinion.

Regards to all,

David Brister.


The manuals for both my present Muir windlass and a previous Lewmar
recommend that the anchor line be secured off the windlass, except
when actually raising or lowering the anchor.



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