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Bob July 26th 04 01:44 AM

Marine Radios
 
I'm looking for a VHF marine radio for a small boat. I al looking at
an Icom and a Raymarine init. Both in the $150.00 range. Which is a
better unit?? I favor the Raymarine as it has a very large display,
but if it is lousy radio, I'd prefer the Icom, or other brands.

Your suggestions please!

Bob

Doug Dotson July 26th 04 02:26 AM

Marine Radios
 
As a former employee of Raytheon, I'd say
you can't go much wrong with ICOM :)

Doug
s/v Callista

"Bob" wrote in message
m...
I'm looking for a VHF marine radio for a small boat. I al looking at
an Icom and a Raymarine init. Both in the $150.00 range. Which is a
better unit?? I favor the Raymarine as it has a very large display,
but if it is lousy radio, I'd prefer the Icom, or other brands.

Your suggestions please!

Bob




Quess July 26th 04 02:31 AM

Marine Radios
 
I'd second that.


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
As a former employee of Raytheon, I'd say
you can't go much wrong with ICOM :)

Doug
s/v Callista

"Bob" wrote in message
m...
I'm looking for a VHF marine radio for a small boat. I al looking at
an Icom and a Raymarine init. Both in the $150.00 range. Which is a
better unit?? I favor the Raymarine as it has a very large display,
but if it is lousy radio, I'd prefer the Icom, or other brands.

Your suggestions please!

Bob






Jack Painter July 26th 04 02:35 AM

Marine Radios
 

"Bob" wrote in message
m...
I'm looking for a VHF marine radio for a small boat. I al looking at
an Icom and a Raymarine init. Both in the $150.00 range. Which is a
better unit?? I favor the Raymarine as it has a very large display,
but if it is lousy radio, I'd prefer the Icom, or other brands.

Your suggestions please!

Bob


Bob, when you shop for the bottom of the lines, they are all comparable. The
differences are only barely noteable when the price climbs more than twice
that high. I would recommend any new radio you choose have "D" class
DSC/GMDSS capability. That way it won't be too far out of pace when the "E"
models are mandatory when the (someday effective) Rescue-21 vhf-marine
emergency system is online nationwide.

Jack



krj July 26th 04 01:02 PM

Marine Radios
 
Jack,
What is the difference between "D" class and "E" class DSC/GMDSS
krj

Jack Painter wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message
m...

I'm looking for a VHF marine radio for a small boat. I al looking at
an Icom and a Raymarine init. Both in the $150.00 range. Which is a
better unit?? I favor the Raymarine as it has a very large display,
but if it is lousy radio, I'd prefer the Icom, or other brands.

Your suggestions please!

Bob



Bob, when you shop for the bottom of the lines, they are all comparable. The
differences are only barely noteable when the price climbs more than twice
that high. I would recommend any new radio you choose have "D" class
DSC/GMDSS capability. That way it won't be too far out of pace when the "E"
models are mandatory when the (someday effective) Rescue-21 vhf-marine
emergency system is online nationwide.

Jack




Jack Painter July 26th 04 06:34 PM

Marine Radios
 

"krj" wrote
Jack,
What is the difference between "D" class and "E" class DSC/GMDSS
krj


The differences listed below appear almost non-existent, but I believe that
the "E" manufactured radios are intended to allow greater flexibility in
both distress and general messaging instructions sent via DSC. In other
words, the receiving radios "might" be allowed to be commanded to a specific
frequency after DSC message on Ch-70.

Jack

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/dsc.htm
Classes of Digital Selective Calling

Class D:
Minimum DSC capability for VHF marine radios carried by recreational
boaters, commercial fishing vessels, and other non-SOLAS regulated vessels.
Class D required capabilities include:

Distress call
All-ships call
Individual station call
Use of distress, urgency, safety and routine priorities
Nature of distress
Distress coordinates
Time for last (distress) position update
Type of subsequent communications
Radio VHF channel
Display
Receive distress relay and distress acknowledgment calls
Alarm

Class E:
Minimum DSC capability for HF marine radios carried by recreational boaters,
commercial fishing vessels, and other non-SOLAS regulated vessels. Class E
required capabilities include:

Distress call
All-ships call
Individual station call
Use of distress, urgency, safety and routine priorities
Nature of distress
Distress coordinates
Time for last (distress) position update
Type of subsequent communications
Radio channel or frequency
Display
Receive distress relay and distress acknowledgment calls
Alarm



Dennis Pogson July 26th 04 06:51 PM

Marine Radios
 
krj wrote:
Jack,


krj


Jack Painter wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message
m...

I'm looking for a VHF marine radio for a small boat. I al looking
at an Icom and a Raymarine init. Both in the $150.00 range. Which
is a better unit?? I favor the Raymarine as it has a very large
display, but if it is lousy radio, I'd prefer the Icom, or other
brands.

Your suggestions please!

Bob



Bob, when you shop for the bottom of the lines, they are all
comparable. The differences are only barely noteable when the price
climbs more than twice that high. I would recommend any new radio
you choose have "D" class DSC/GMDSS capability. That way it won't be
too far out of pace when the "E" models are mandatory when the
(someday effective) Rescue-21 vhf-marine emergency system is online
nationwide.

Jack


What is the difference between "D" class and "E" class DSC/GMDSS


D class are very difficult to undersatnd, and E class are impossible to
underestand.

Remove "nospam" from return address.



krj July 26th 04 07:06 PM

Marine Radios
 
Thanks Jack,
According to what you posted, "D" class is for VHF and "E" class is for
HF radios. The requirements you posted are otherwise identical.
krj

Jack Painter wrote:
"krj" wrote

Jack,
What is the difference between "D" class and "E" class DSC/GMDSS
krj



The differences listed below appear almost non-existent, but I believe that
the "E" manufactured radios are intended to allow greater flexibility in
both distress and general messaging instructions sent via DSC. In other
words, the receiving radios "might" be allowed to be commanded to a specific
frequency after DSC message on Ch-70.

Jack

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/dsc.htm
Classes of Digital Selective Calling

Class D:
Minimum DSC capability for VHF marine radios carried by recreational
boaters, commercial fishing vessels, and other non-SOLAS regulated vessels.
Class D required capabilities include:

Distress call
All-ships call
Individual station call
Use of distress, urgency, safety and routine priorities
Nature of distress
Distress coordinates
Time for last (distress) position update
Type of subsequent communications
Radio VHF channel
Display
Receive distress relay and distress acknowledgment calls
Alarm

Class E:
Minimum DSC capability for HF marine radios carried by recreational boaters,
commercial fishing vessels, and other non-SOLAS regulated vessels. Class E
required capabilities include:

Distress call
All-ships call
Individual station call
Use of distress, urgency, safety and routine priorities
Nature of distress
Distress coordinates
Time for last (distress) position update
Type of subsequent communications
Radio channel or frequency
Display
Receive distress relay and distress acknowledgment calls
Alarm




Jack Painter July 26th 04 07:53 PM

Marine Radios
 
Rgr that - didn't mean to include the E class comparison. Not sure if all or
many VHF radios sold in the US are D-class, since the capablities here for
distress messaging are not implemented yet. Maybe a dealer on the list can
verify whether radios for sale here are all D models yet...

Jack

"krj" wrote
Thanks Jack,
According to what you posted, "D" class is for VHF and "E" class is for
HF radios. The requirements you posted are otherwise identical.
krj

Jack Painter wrote:
"krj" wrote

Jack,
What is the difference between "D" class and "E" class DSC/GMDSS
krj



The differences listed below appear almost non-existent, but I believe

that
the "E" manufactured radios are intended to allow greater flexibility in
both distress and general messaging instructions sent via DSC. In other
words, the receiving radios "might" be allowed to be commanded to a

specific
frequency after DSC message on Ch-70.

Jack

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/dsc.htm
Classes of Digital Selective Calling

Class D:
Minimum DSC capability for VHF marine radios carried by recreational
boaters, commercial fishing vessels, and other non-SOLAS regulated

vessels.
Class D required capabilities include:

Distress call
All-ships call
Individual station call
Use of distress, urgency, safety and routine priorities
Nature of distress
Distress coordinates
Time for last (distress) position update
Type of subsequent communications
Radio VHF channel
Display
Receive distress relay and distress acknowledgment calls
Alarm

Class E:
Minimum DSC capability for HF marine radios carried by recreational

boaters,
commercial fishing vessels, and other non-SOLAS regulated vessels. Class

E
required capabilities include:

Distress call
All-ships call
Individual station call
Use of distress, urgency, safety and routine priorities
Nature of distress
Distress coordinates
Time for last (distress) position update
Type of subsequent communications
Radio channel or frequency
Display
Receive distress relay and distress acknowledgment calls
Alarm






Bruce in Alaska July 26th 04 08:58 PM

Marine Radios
 
In article ,
"Dennis Pogson" wrote:

D class are very difficult to undersatnd, and E class are impossible to
underestand.

Remove "nospam" from return address.


Thats what we (USA) get for letting the Europeans take the lead in
Maritime Communications Design and implimentation, at the ITU.

Bruce in alaska
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