C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

Thanks for the response on the Radome. Here's another.
Switched from a RL70RC to a RL80CRC Plus. Moved the Cmap
cartridge over (2002) to the new unit, and I get no chart
information at any zoom level greater than 3 nm. I have put the
chart into another RL70CRC unit at Boat US, and the detail is there.
That unit's OS was 4.09

I noticed that the OS version for the 80 was 2.09 so I
ordered and installed the latest update, bringing it to 4.11
Same problem.

Could it be that the 10.4" display has different chart requirements
than a 7" display? I find that hard to believe, except that the
80 will go down to 1/64th of a mile, where the 70 is either 1/2
or 1/4, I don't remember.

Just checking to see if any Raymarine techs have seen this, and
know exactly what's going on.

I've tried it on both simulated, and real data because of the Radome
issue discussed elsewhere.

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

Hi there,

It is as easy as:
In the setup, switch plotter mode to OFF

If your chart is covering the area wher you want to zoom in you should set
plotter mode to OFF.

The manuals says:
Plotter Mode enables you to zoom into a smaller area, even when no chart
data
is available for that scale. This allows you use the chartplotter functions
at
large scales even when a chart card is not installed.

Regards, TomS


"C. Sadler" wrote in message
om...
Thanks for the response on the Radome. Here's another.
Switched from a RL70RC to a RL80CRC Plus. Moved the Cmap
cartridge over (2002) to the new unit, and I get no chart
information at any zoom level greater than 3 nm. I have put the
chart into another RL70CRC unit at Boat US, and the detail is there.
That unit's OS was 4.09

I noticed that the OS version for the 80 was 2.09 so I
ordered and installed the latest update, bringing it to 4.11
Same problem.

Could it be that the 10.4" display has different chart requirements
than a 7" display? I find that hard to believe, except that the
80 will go down to 1/64th of a mile, where the 70 is either 1/2
or 1/4, I don't remember.

Just checking to see if any Raymarine techs have seen this, and
know exactly what's going on.

I've tried it on both simulated, and real data because of the Radome
issue discussed elsewhere.

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

Hi again,

If I remember correctly it is done like this:

Push the MENU button until you are in chart mode.
Push the CHART SET UP soft key.
With the TRACK PAD scroll down to plotter mode.
Push the OFF soft key.

Now you should be all set to zoom in to 1/4NM

Hope this helps..

R, TomS

"TomS" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

It is as easy as:
In the setup, switch plotter mode to OFF

If your chart is covering the area wher you want to zoom in you should set
plotter mode to OFF.

The manuals says:
Plotter Mode enables you to zoom into a smaller area, even when no chart
data
is available for that scale. This allows you use the chartplotter
functions
at
large scales even when a chart card is not installed.

Regards, TomS


"C. Sadler" wrote in message
om...
Thanks for the response on the Radome. Here's another.
Switched from a RL70RC to a RL80CRC Plus. Moved the Cmap
cartridge over (2002) to the new unit, and I get no chart
information at any zoom level greater than 3 nm. I have put the
chart into another RL70CRC unit at Boat US, and the detail is there.
That unit's OS was 4.09

I noticed that the OS version for the 80 was 2.09 so I
ordered and installed the latest update, bringing it to 4.11
Same problem.

Could it be that the 10.4" display has different chart requirements
than a 7" display? I find that hard to believe, except that the
80 will go down to 1/64th of a mile, where the 70 is either 1/2
or 1/4, I don't remember.

Just checking to see if any Raymarine techs have seen this, and
know exactly what's going on.

I've tried it on both simulated, and real data because of the Radome
issue discussed elsewhere.

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

You might know this already, but the C-MAP forum is an option to get
answers, they seem to gets answers to questions quickly from what I've
noticed.
http://www.c-map.com/forum/
Regards
Gerald

(C. Sadler) wrote in message . com...
Thanks for the response on the Radome. Here's another.
Switched from a RL70RC to a RL80CRC Plus. Moved the Cmap
cartridge over (2002) to the new unit, and I get no chart
information at any zoom level greater than 3 nm. I have put the
chart into another RL70CRC unit at Boat US, and the detail is there.
That unit's OS was 4.09

I noticed that the OS version for the 80 was 2.09 so I
ordered and installed the latest update, bringing it to 4.11
Same problem.

Could it be that the 10.4" display has different chart requirements
than a 7" display? I find that hard to believe, except that the
80 will go down to 1/64th of a mile, where the 70 is either 1/2
or 1/4, I don't remember.

Just checking to see if any Raymarine techs have seen this, and
know exactly what's going on.

I've tried it on both simulated, and real data because of the Radome
issue discussed elsewhere.

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

Your message did not indicate the NT+ code number that you are using.
Some Raymarine products may not reconize a C-card with a .00 version.
Versions .01 and above corrected this problem.

Also some Raymarine units will only reconize an NT+ C-card in the top
slot of the unit. Raymarine introduced new software to correct this
issue. I suspect that your symptom may be related to one of these
issues, as you have confirmed that your NT+ C-card operates correctly
in another unit.

J. McQuade
C-MAP/USA

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

Good comment Tom,
I get this problem in the shop about once a month and during the summer
boating season, it is a common "Monday morning" phone question. Plotter mode
off is the way to go unless a person absolutely needs it on, and remembers
to turn it back off again.
Doug K7ABX
"TomS" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

It is as easy as:
In the setup, switch plotter mode to OFF

If your chart is covering the area wher you want to zoom in you should set
plotter mode to OFF.

The manuals says:
Plotter Mode enables you to zoom into a smaller area, even when no chart
data
is available for that scale. This allows you use the chartplotter
functions
at
large scales even when a chart card is not installed.

Regards, TomS


"C. Sadler" wrote in message
om...
Thanks for the response on the Radome. Here's another.
Switched from a RL70RC to a RL80CRC Plus. Moved the Cmap
cartridge over (2002) to the new unit, and I get no chart
information at any zoom level greater than 3 nm. I have put the
chart into another RL70CRC unit at Boat US, and the detail is there.
That unit's OS was 4.09

I noticed that the OS version for the 80 was 2.09 so I
ordered and installed the latest update, bringing it to 4.11
Same problem.

Could it be that the 10.4" display has different chart requirements
than a 7" display? I find that hard to believe, except that the
80 will go down to 1/64th of a mile, where the 70 is either 1/2
or 1/4, I don't remember.

Just checking to see if any Raymarine techs have seen this, and
know exactly what's going on.

I've tried it on both simulated, and real data because of the Radome
issue discussed elsewhere.

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 19:23:19 GMT, "Doug"
wrote:

Good comment Tom,
I get this problem in the shop about once a month and during the summer
boating season, it is a common "Monday morning" phone question. Plotter mode
off is the way to go unless a person absolutely needs it on, and remembers
to turn it back off again.
Doug K7ABX

Too bad the idiots that do the EEPROMS don't set Plotter OFF as
DEFAULT.....dammit.

ARE YOU LISTENING RAYMARINE??!!

Larry
S/V Lionheart
RL70CRC Plus


Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

If you call Raymarine and talk nice to them, they'll send you an EPROM
upgrade C-Map plug you simply plug into your RL display and turn the
unit on. The unit will suck the program off the plug and upgrade
itself to the latest firmware upgrade with all the stuff they "forgot"
and will have support for new stuff like the Smart Heading Sensor ours
wouldn't read before the upgrade.

They'll charge your credit card if you don't send back the plug to
them so someone else can use it.......Be forewarned.



On 8 Mar 2004 11:17:07 -0800, (James McQuade)
wrote:

Your message did not indicate the NT+ code number that you are using.
Some Raymarine products may not reconize a C-card with a .00 version.
Versions .01 and above corrected this problem.

Also some Raymarine units will only reconize an NT+ C-card in the top
slot of the unit. Raymarine introduced new software to correct this
issue. I suspect that your symptom may be related to one of these
issues, as you have confirmed that your NT+ C-card operates correctly
in another unit.

J. McQuade
C-MAP/USA


Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays-final
 

yup, plotter mode was it!

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

Is the Smart Heading Sensor used for any steering functions by a Raytheon
autopilot?
The autopilots all use the fluxgate compass for heading input, so I'm
curious what function
the Smart Heading Sensor serves. Is it just backup?
Patrick


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
If you call Raymarine and talk nice to them, they'll send you an EPROM
upgrade C-Map plug you simply plug into your RL display and turn the
unit on. The unit will suck the program off the plug and upgrade
itself to the latest firmware upgrade with all the stuff they "forgot"
and will have support for new stuff like the Smart Heading Sensor ours
wouldn't read before the upgrade.

They'll charge your credit card if you don't send back the plug to
them so someone else can use it.......Be forewarned.



On 8 Mar 2004 11:17:07 -0800, (James McQuade)
wrote:

Your message did not indicate the NT+ code number that you are using.
Some Raymarine products may not reconize a C-card with a .00 version.
Versions .01 and above corrected this problem.

Also some Raymarine units will only reconize an NT+ C-card in the top
slot of the unit. Raymarine introduced new software to correct this
issue. I suspect that your symptom may be related to one of these
issues, as you have confirmed that your NT+ C-card operates correctly
in another unit.

J. McQuade
C-MAP/USA


Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

"Patrick" wrote in news:ZOWdnW-
:

Is the Smart Heading Sensor used for any steering functions by a Raytheon
autopilot?
The autopilots all use the fluxgate compass for heading input, so I'm
curious what function
the Smart Heading Sensor serves. Is it just backup?
Patrick

Not that I can sense. I wish my captain hadn't bought it, personally. I
think it's a waste of money.

Look in the manual and see it wants to be within 10 degrees of upright for
the gyro sensor to work. What? Hell, our boat is hardly EVER within 10
degrees of upright on Lionheart! Who the hell can sail like that? Flat
seas? No wind? How crazy.

So, having fought to get the damned fluxgate in a place it WILL calibrate,
which wasn't easy, I'd recommend the straight Raymarine compass sensor,
which was easy to calibrate and use, not this new gadget anyone can show me
makes any difference in the waves steering the boat.

Frankly, the B&G compass sensor with our B&G Network Pilot blows the doors
off any of the Raymarine compass sensors we've ever had. We turned it once
to calibrate it and it's been within 1 degree since. Who needs more?

Larry
S/V Lionheart
way too much electronics to operate all at once...(c;

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

It is used mainly for MARPA display and overlay functions. Although they
call it a rate gyro, it is really an accelerometer. It does seem to improve
autopilot seatrial setup in the "self learn" mode. It supposedly reduces the
amount of S turns the autopilot makes. There are some errors in the manual
when using Seatalk cables. Call Raymarine tech support to the straight info
if you are having weird problems. In some equipment configurations you must
break the SeaTalk yellow wire and use Seatalk for power only. Other
configurations require Seatalk Yellow and the Red must be split off for
external power.
Regarding the 10 degree from vertical, I was told a couple years ago that
this meant the sensor had to be mounted athwartships, such as a vertical
bulkhead. After seeing them on the hull of sailing vessels and the owners
reporting no problems, I suspect the 10 degree from vertical is not that
critical. Bayliner/Meridian mounts them athwartships at the factory.
Catalina sailboats uses an independent shop for "factory" installation and
those are mounted on the hull behind the circuit breaker panel and seem to
work OK.
Doug K7ABX

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
"Patrick" wrote in news:ZOWdnW-
:

Is the Smart Heading Sensor used for any steering functions by a
Raytheon
autopilot?
The autopilots all use the fluxgate compass for heading input, so I'm
curious what function
the Smart Heading Sensor serves. Is it just backup?
Patrick

Not that I can sense. I wish my captain hadn't bought it, personally. I
think it's a waste of money.

Look in the manual and see it wants to be within 10 degrees of upright for
the gyro sensor to work. What? Hell, our boat is hardly EVER within 10
degrees of upright on Lionheart! Who the hell can sail like that? Flat
seas? No wind? How crazy.

So, having fought to get the damned fluxgate in a place it WILL calibrate,
which wasn't easy, I'd recommend the straight Raymarine compass sensor,
which was easy to calibrate and use, not this new gadget anyone can show
me
makes any difference in the waves steering the boat.

Frankly, the B&G compass sensor with our B&G Network Pilot blows the doors
off any of the Raymarine compass sensors we've ever had. We turned it
once
to calibrate it and it's been within 1 degree since. Who needs more?

Larry
S/V Lionheart
way too much electronics to operate all at once...(c;

C-Map chart not showing detail after switching Raymarine displays
 

"Doug" wrote in
hlink.net:

It is used mainly for MARPA display and overlay functions. Although
they call it a rate gyro, it is really an accelerometer. It does seem
to improve autopilot seatrial setup in the "self learn" mode. It
supposedly reduces the amount of S turns the autopilot makes. There
are some errors in the manual when using Seatalk cables. Call
Raymarine tech support to the straight info if you are having weird
problems. In some equipment configurations you must break the SeaTalk
yellow wire and use Seatalk for power only. Other configurations
require Seatalk Yellow and the Red must be split off for external
power. Regarding the 10 degree from vertical, I was told a couple
years ago that this meant the sensor had to be mounted athwartships,
such as a vertical bulkhead. After seeing them on the hull of sailing
vessels and the owners reporting no problems, I suspect the 10 degree
from vertical is not that critical. Bayliner/Meridian mounts them
athwartships at the factory. Catalina sailboats uses an independent
shop for "factory" installation and those are mounted on the hull
behind the circuit breaker panel and seem to work OK.
Doug K7ABX


I can't see any difference whether it's running into the NMEA network or
not because the B&G Network Pilot is so smooth to begin with. I don't
think I ever saw it make an S turn oversteering, even in 8' seas. The
Autohelm 4000 on the Endeavour 35 sloop used to "lose control" in much less
seas, but that might be a factor of the Amel Sharki's big rudder as much as
the Autohelm's ability to keep up.

Larry