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Laptop passive cooling idea
My laptop has always been just a little bit marginal in the cooling
department. In an office environment it's ok. At the nav station in a Florida summer, not so much. It has even been known to shut down from the thermal overload. After some fooling around, I decided that part of the problem was that the little rubber "feet" did not provide enough clearance for adequate airflow. Any flat surface it was sitting on would get hot to the touch. I thought about various ways of mounting a fan (feasible in my setup but noisy and probably overkill.) Instead,I picked up a sheet of Dri-Deck panel from West. If you're not familiar with it, it's a self draining plastic thingy that is the equivalent of a teak cockpit grate for a locker. It's about the right size, easy to trim, and placed upside down, provides terrific passive cooling. It's fairly non-slip and easy to secure anywhere you want it. Problem solved. Now, according to Usenet protocol, several people should be along momentarily to tell me * They thought of it first * It can't possibly work * It works too well * It destroys the environment * Screw the environment * I should've mounted a 12000 btu airconditioner under it * I shouldn't worry about it * Joshua Slocum only had a rusty clock with one hand * For only $8k, I could have a real maritime PC * People that want computers on their boats are jerks * Only an idiot would try to run a PC on a sailboat in a Florida Oh wait, that one is true. __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Laptop passive cooling idea
Just a thought - are you running Windows 98? On that OS they didn't handle the "idle
loop" correctly and the CPU runs 100% all the time, maximizing heat. There is software to correct this. I think ME and XP don't have this problem. And another thing: You shouldn't be running a computer during the day when its hot - the fact that its shutting down is proof that God didn't intend them to be used for navigation! ;-} "Glen Wiley Wilson" wrote in message ... My laptop has always been just a little bit marginal in the cooling department. In an office environment it's ok. At the nav station in a Florida summer, not so much. It has even been known to shut down from the thermal overload. After some fooling around, I decided that part of the problem was that the little rubber "feet" did not provide enough clearance for adequate airflow. Any flat surface it was sitting on would get hot to the touch. I thought about various ways of mounting a fan (feasible in my setup but noisy and probably overkill.) Instead,I picked up a sheet of Dri-Deck panel from West. If you're not familiar with it, it's a self draining plastic thingy that is the equivalent of a teak cockpit grate for a locker. It's about the right size, easy to trim, and placed upside down, provides terrific passive cooling. It's fairly non-slip and easy to secure anywhere you want it. Problem solved. Now, according to Usenet protocol, several people should be along momentarily to tell me * They thought of it first * It can't possibly work * It works too well * It destroys the environment * Screw the environment * I should've mounted a 12000 btu airconditioner under it * I shouldn't worry about it * Joshua Slocum only had a rusty clock with one hand * For only $8k, I could have a real maritime PC * People that want computers on their boats are jerks * Only an idiot would try to run a PC on a sailboat in a Florida Oh wait, that one is true. __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:45:25 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom tempted fate with: Just a thought - are you running Windows 98? On that OS they didn't handle the "idle loop" correctly and the CPU runs 100% all the time, maximizing heat. There is software to correct this. I think ME and XP don't have this problem. And another thing: You shouldn't be running a computer during the day when its hot - the fact that its shutting down is proof that God didn't intend them to be used for navigation! ;-} Hehe, good one. It's ME, running on a Duron with the PowerNow software, so that end should be OK. The box is a 2 year old HP Pavilion and I've heard that they are prone to this sort of thing because of a poor cooling design and substandard fans. Nice box, otherwise. I've added memory, which may contribute to the problem. __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:21:54 GMT, "Glen Wiley Wilson"
wrote: Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ Glen, have you ever considered adding SeaTalk, Fastnet and the other proprietary data stream capabilities to your data logger? Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Laptop passive cooling idea
Glen Wilson wrote: Now, according to Usenet protocol, several people should be along momentarily to tell me * They thought of it first * It can't possibly work * It works too well * It destroys the environment * Screw the environment * I should've mounted a 12000 btu airconditioner under it * I shouldn't worry about it * Joshua Slocum only had a rusty clock with one hand * For only $8k, I could have a real maritime PC * People that want computers on their boats are jerks * Only an idiot would try to run a PC on a sailboat in a Florida Oh wait, that one is true. Cover the nav station top with 1/2" aluminum plate for a heat sink? :-) -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Laptop passive cooling idea
I agree fully with the proprietary comments. They shoot themselves in
the foot trying to keep you from hooking their gear to a competitor's widget. Then, to make things worse, they just robbed RS-232 and called it NMEA, which is ludicrous as a network protocol with its ONE talker...... I knew SeaTalk had collision protocols, but didn't know it was inverted, which is easy to fix. SeaTalk connects Lionheart's Raymarine instruments, then the RL70CRC display does the conversion to NMEA for me. The SeaTalk instruments are the WAAS-GPS receiver and Raymarine's Smart Heading Sensor, which I don't think is any smarter or more accurate than the B&G fluxgate on B&G Network Pilot....another proprietary, queer group of instruments on the boat. At least any of the instruments converts to NMEA and all you have to do is pull out pin 4 data to get to it. B&G's H1000/H2000 line has only Fastnet and you have to buy another expensive yellow plastic (of course unshielded so it transmits into the HF at amazing levels) box that converts to NMEA. We returned the H1000 Sailnet sold us because H1000 Pilot wouldn't take instructions from its NMEA converter box or the chart plotters/computers hooked to it. Network Pilot works great off NMEA. It's "obsolete". Larry.... I'll check out your program but we already have The Cap'n and its data panel on the notebook at the nav station.... Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:18:14 GMT, (Larry W4CSC)
tempted fate with: I'll check out your program but we already have The Cap'n and its data panel on the notebook at the nav station.... Larry W4CSC As I told my beta testers, if you like it, tell your friends. If you don't like it, tell me. :-) As a guy with something to sell, the natural tendency is to believe that everyone needs your product. Obviously not true. My original thought was that I was writing something for people that already had chartplotters and weren't interested in computer charting systems. Just a pure data repeater function, in other words. That functionality is mature, that is, pretty much working the way people seem to want it to. They like having the great big display that you can see easily from anywhere below, or even from the cockpit. The flexibility of the display even let's them split the screen with some other program and still see both of them. The logging feature seems to be mature, as well. Where it got interesting was when people started asking for more integration capabilities. They wanted the repeater program, but they also wanted to use a charting program. That doesn't work as well as I want it to, because it either needs spare serial ports or third party software to implement virtual ports. Just a bit more of a hurdle than the typical boater is willing to jump for a shareware program. If I'm doing a complete integration contract for someone, no problem. Even with the third party software, it's still cheaper and better than normal repeaters in many ways, once you accept having a computer in the loop at all. I have a way to fix the port problem without forcing the purchase of the third party software that I hope to put in the next major release. By the way, OziExplorer is the exception to that rule, because it has a minimal API for passing information, no extra ports needed. Unfortunately, Ozi doesn't have the acceptance in the marine market of Maptech and the CAPN and the autopilot support is not so hot. The other main feature, the networking support, may be a bit ahead of its time. How may boats have LANs, after all? I do think that we'll see a lot more of that on big boats in the near future, though. I'm already astounded at how much interest handhelds (computers, not GPSs) are generating. Maybe someday a cruise line will hire me to provide networked displays for all their ships' public areas, or even individual cabins. The master PC would capture position, speed, wind, depth info, etc., and my program could forward it over a LAN to each display PC, where my program could do its display thing and/or hand the data off to a charting program. I could add custom displays like how long till dinner, or whatever. How cool would that be? __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:51:37 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
tempted fate with: Cover the nav station top with 1/2" aluminum plate for a heat sink? :-) Now that is a MANLY solution. Makes me embarrassed I ever offered up my girly plastic trivet idea. (-; __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:04:18 GMT, "Glen Wiley Wilson"
wrote: As I told my beta testers, if you like it, tell your friends. If you don't like it, tell me. :-) Will do....(c; As a guy with something to sell, the natural tendency is to believe that everyone needs your product. Obviously not true. My original thought was that I was writing something for people that already had chartplotters and weren't interested in computer charting systems. Just a pure data repeater function, in other words. That functionality is mature, that is, pretty much working the way people seem to want it to. They like having the great big display that you can see easily from anywhere below, or even from the cockpit. The flexibility of the display even let's them split the screen with some other program and still see both of them. The logging feature seems to be mature, as well. My application is to notebooks and PDAs around the boat. Read below...(c; The other main feature, the networking support, may be a bit ahead of its time. How may boats have LANs, after all? I do think that we'll see a lot more of that on big boats in the near future, though. I'm already astounded at how much interest handhelds (computers, not GPSs) are generating. Maybe someday a cruise line will hire me to provide networked displays for all their ships' public areas, or even individual cabins. The master PC would capture position, speed, wind, depth info, etc., and my program could forward it over a LAN to each display PC, where my program could do its display thing and/or hand the data off to a charting program. I could add custom displays like how long till dinner, or whatever. How cool would that be? Aha....Here we have a common interest!...... I'm toying with the idea of creating a WIRELESS network aboard the boat (802.11b, probably). Integration to the NMEA network will be via a converter, such as: http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?s...ltsku=ethernet This will allow me to redirect The Cap'n to the 802.11b port using TCP/IP and a common router to the wireless LAN (I like Netgears). One of the ports on the Netgear router is this converter which handles TCP/IP from my DHCP server aboard and talks to a common RS-232 serial port....I.E. NMEA 0183, 4800 baud 8/n/1 to the hard-wired NMEA instruments already functional. There's no reason The Cap'n or any NAV software cannot simply put out its NMEA serial statements to a TCP/IP network, routed to the converter device's IP, which converts bi-directional to it all the NMEA data.....in and out of the simple NMEA network. The PDA in your bunk.....the notebook sitting at the helm....or any other wireless device, now becomes connected to the NMEA network many of us have running. The Cap'n on the wireless notebook at the helm, connects through the converter device on 192.168.0.4 and starts receiving and processing network data, sending out NMEA instructions to the autopilot listening to the NMEA network. No serial cables, no hard wired crap dangling off the chart table and the wireless network on 2.4Ghz won't be susceptable to the 150W HF SSB RF like the serial cables are, now..... Wouldn't it be cool if ALL INSTRUMENTS were wireless devices to a central shipboard router using STANDARD 802.11b protocols and TCP/IP. God, I could use my HF radio on ANY frequency if I got the NMEA crap off the wires....(c; "To add our new wireless headsail roller furler to your networked boat, simply plug it into 12VDC via the handy cable and it will log itself onto your wireless router for control." We'll even be able to watch the "Enroute Movies" from anywhere, instead of just on the notebook at the chart table....(c; http://www.videolan.org/ It's not "boat programs" so it's GPL freeware....(c; Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:07:51 GMT, "Glen Wiley Wilson"
wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:51:37 -0500, Glenn Ashmore tempted fate with: Cover the nav station top with 1/2" aluminum plate for a heat sink? :-) Now that is a MANLY solution. Makes me embarrassed I ever offered up my girly plastic trivet idea. (-; I've always liked "Manly Solutions"....... http://www.totallygross.com/ "The only Manly way to make a girly drink." Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:17:45 GMT, (Larry W4CSC)
tempted fate with: Aha....Here we have a common interest!...... I'm toying with the idea of creating a WIRELESS network aboard the boat (802.11b, probably). Integration to the NMEA network will be via a converter, such as: http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?s...ltsku=ethernet This type of device should work well. An issue I have with this approach is that the device requires drivers. I hate installing drivers. They either work or they don't, and if something breaks, you're never quite sure what it was. You have to make sure to keep up with them just in case you find yourself rebuilding a crashed harddrive or Windows falls on its sword or something. Plus, you never know when the latest Windows service pack is going to break the driver. It happens more often than one might think. Also, since I have an obvious bias toward programmability, this approach is a little hard-wired for my taste. My approach is to use the existing tcp/ip stack. I take all the data I get from serial ports and virtual serial ports and do a UDP broadcast. This automatically goes to anybody on the subnet that wants to listen on the right port. So you can add any listener anytime you want by the expedient of plugging in a cat5 or a wireless card. Any PC running anywhere on the subnet with my program on it can receive the data, add it to whatever is coming in over the local serial ports, display, it, log it, and ship it out over a serial port or virtual port to any device or program not-network-aware. But I do still need some NMEA wiring to get the data to the computer. Note that my license covers as many copies as you want to run on one boat. I probably need to change that if that cruise ship contract comes in... I've actually been doing a little work on this feature this week. This version is not on the site yet, but I've added the capability to talk to a specific address instead of broadcasting. This let's you get off the subnet if you want to. Theoretically, you could even ship your data over the internet to your home PC. I've added it because a couple of prospects think they can use it for remote tracking. There are some more improvements too, but they are fairly subtle. It's not "boat programs" so it's GPL freeware....(c; Hey, I represent that stattement! __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:48:54 GMT, "Glen Wiley Wilson"
wrote: This type of device should work well. An issue I have with this approach is that the device requires drivers. I hate installing drivers. They either work or they don't, and if something breaks, you're never quite sure what it was. You have to make sure to keep up with them just in case you find yourself rebuilding a crashed harddrive or Windows falls on its sword or something. Plus, you never know when the latest Windows service pack is going to break the driver. It happens more often than one might think. Also, since I have an obvious bias toward programmability, this approach is a little hard-wired for my taste. As these computers would not be used for online internet, except maybe at the dock to get the weather report before leaving, you don't need the service packs. The solution to the Windows problem is Win98SE, which has matured very nicely compliments of business and industry who like its more stable platform. Many of XPs maladies, of course, simply don't exist in W98SE because it's not NT-based or NT-complex. Having no need to share files, printers, and databases, there's no need to run an NT-based O/S, with its inherent problems that have never been resolved. Win98SE runs for months without being rebooted, even though it is heavily used on my network, here. It has many drivers that will not run under XP, a re-designed system hell bent on everyone buying new buggy software from the original vendors. Screw all that. 98SE runs good ol' Windoze programs from anywhere. My approach is to use the existing tcp/ip stack. I take all the data I get from serial ports and virtual serial ports and do a UDP broadcast. This automatically goes to anybody on the subnet that wants to listen on the right port. So you can add any listener anytime you want by the expedient of plugging in a cat5 or a wireless card. Any PC running anywhere on the subnet with my program on it can receive the data, add it to whatever is coming in over the local serial ports, display, it, log it, and ship it out over a serial port or virtual port to any device or program not-network-aware. But I do still need some NMEA wiring to get the data to the computer. Note that my license covers as many copies as you want to run on one boat. I probably need to change that if that cruise ship contract comes in... I've actually been doing a little work on this feature this week. This version is not on the site yet, but I've added the capability to talk to a specific address instead of broadcasting. This let's you get off the subnet if you want to. Theoretically, you could even ship your data over the internet to your home PC. I've added it because a couple of prospects think they can use it for remote tracking. There are some more improvements too, but they are fairly subtle. Very nice. It's not "boat programs" so it's GPL freeware....(c; Hey, I represent that stattement! Wanna bet you'll make more money off it at $29?......simply blowing away the greedy competitors...... I know someone who wrote a shareware program and posted it to tucows.com and the other shareware vendors. His income tripled when he dropped the price below $30..... The boaters with unlimited funds don't buy shareware, they hire consultants who make commissions off vast software prices. Consultants never recommend shareware they are not going to get paid extra from. Boaters with small incomes will use shareware but sneeze around $30 and won't send in the money unless you put in a 30-day timer to force them. They'll think, "Other shareware is $30. Why is this guy charging so much, just because it's a boat program?" They'll send PayPal $30 for it and feel great. Think about it. Your program isn't going to be on the bridge of that 160' Italian custom yacht..... _________________________________________________ ___________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Laptop passive cooling idea
Then, of course, there's always this:
http://www.boatblender.com/ Joe Wood Larry W4CSC wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:07:51 GMT, "Glen Wiley Wilson" wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:51:37 -0500, Glenn Ashmore tempted fate with: Cover the nav station top with 1/2" aluminum plate for a heat sink? :-) Now that is a MANLY solution. Makes me embarrassed I ever offered up my girly plastic trivet idea. (-; I've always liked "Manly Solutions"....... http://www.totallygross.com/ "The only Manly way to make a girly drink." Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Laptop passive cooling idea
Larry W4CSC wrote: I've always liked "Manly Solutions"....... http://www.totallygross.com/ "The only Manly way to make a girly drink." Just packed my red pants, my Tailgator and half a case of Tequilla. Headed out for the World's largest outdoor cocktail party Tomorrow night! :-) -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Laptop passive cooling idea
Joe Wood wrote: Then, of course, there's always this: http://www.boatblender.com/ That might be OK for cocktails on the boat but it would get laughed out of the parking lot at the Georgia/Florida game. Last year we made about 300 Margaritas with the Tailgator in four hours. Had to name a couple of designated walkers to get some of the crew into the stadium. :-) -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:37:30 GMT, (Larry W4CSC)
tempted fate with: They'll think, "Other shareware is $30. Why is this guy charging so much, just because it's a boat program?" They'll send PayPal $30 for it and feel great. Think about it. Your program isn't going to be on the bridge of that 160' Italian custom yacht..... Sigh. I wonder if anyone anywhere ever made any product that someone somewhere didn't say was too expensive. :-} I do appreciate the input, though. It's always good to hear what people think. I know you aren't necessarily speaking for yourself in this, or even about my program specifically, but for the stereotypical "cheap boater" (like me), so let me respond as if to that guy, not you. cpRepeater is not $75 because it's "boat stuff". It's $75 because it does some rather difficult things easily and efficiently. Some of which nobody else is doing, some of which people are doing for a much higher price. I won't go into the market studies I did on the competition's pricing, or the number of people that I had evaluate the product to tell me what they thought it was worth. I'll just say you might be right about that guy. The one thing I know for sure from spending the last 30 years in the computer business as a corporate wage slave is that pricing is witchcraft. But since you raised the subject, and now anyone who reads this thread will decide to wait and see whether I drop the price before registering, I will say right now, it won't happen. This is all I'm ever going to say about it here, because the discussion verges on commercial activity, innapprpriate for a Usenet Rec group. Remember, this thread started with me discussing laptop trivets. :-) Maybe some folks will be interested in how things get priced in the software world. Those with weak stomachs should leave now. Anyone who likes sausage or software should never see either one being made. First, you check out the competition. Take a look at http://www.navstore.com/ft_navvision.asp, also a shareware product, though they've gotten this site to sell it recently. Very nice program, seems to do almost everything mine does, some it doesn't, and looks a *lot* cooler. Also more resource intensive with all the graphics, and less readable, but that's OK for some people. Also $600 just to get started. Even the pure hardware solution you like, with no display capabilities, multiplexing, or integration logic, runs $199 per serial port from B&B. Not to say that these alternative's suck; they each have real merit and no doubt in some situations are the "right" choice. But I think your point was really about human-engineering of prices. Your point is debatable, but very defensible in the tucows environment you cite. The prospect list is effectively unlimited there. Most programs there have a potential market of millions of people. If lowering prices 50% takes you from 100 sales to 500, it's a no-brainer. When your market is limited, say, to people that have boats, have laptops, have NMEA networks, want to use them together, are willing to try shareware, and have cabins that need repeaters, your sales might go from 10 to 12. :-) A consideration in the pricing is that I want to improve the program as a bonus for existing customers, and as an incentive for new customers. That's not free. I have some technology that I want to license that will do some terrific stuff, but the creeps want money for it. A lot more than I want for mine. I'm not even gonna go into my investment in compilers and hardware to build and test this thing. It's my problem, not the customers'. But that's probably why nobody has actually offered an equivalent for $30 yet. I'd hate to put in a timer that disables the program, because it's irresponsible to disable part of someones navigation system, for any reason. Besides, it's not nice. But I understand that you weren't necessarily recommending that, just mentioning it in passing. In any event, I'm not going to lose sleep over sleazoids using the software without paying for it. Those people are always with us. And look how popular the MPAA and RIAA are with the public for trying to enforce their (legitimate) rights. In any event, the registrations per download that I'm getting so far is better than I expected. I think that speaks well for us boaters. Only time will tell if that trend continues. Instead of hoping for a price drop, anyone interested in this program should hope I don't decide to sell it to Maptech or the CAPN folks or somebody, who will add a 25 cent box, a 99 cent copy-protected CD, and a flyer for their high-end products, immediately increase the price to $149 plus tax, title, and license, and start charging "upgrade fees" every time they add a feature. :-) Hey, thanks again for the advice. You actually caused me to consider some packaging options I've never considered. I might run some ideas past my beta group to see what they think. __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:47:34 -0500, Joe Wood
wrote: Then, of course, there's always this: http://www.boatblender.com/ No comparison. Looks like a girly solution to a girly drink problem. The "danger factor" of operating a high-speed, 2-stroke ENGINE with MANLY stainless steel blades that could easily slice off a hand without loosing 10% of serious RPM.....plus the INTENSE NOISE of the TailGator attracting attention this (cough)(choke)(puke) "electric drill attachment" would never render. It's definately a "guy thing".... TailGator even leaves access to idle speed and idle mixture screws so the "guys" can make unnecessary "adjustments" for their manly egos.... Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Laptop passive cooling idea
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:12:12 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote: Joe Wood wrote: Then, of course, there's always this: http://www.boatblender.com/ That might be OK for cocktails on the boat but it would get laughed out of the parking lot at the Georgia/Florida game. Last year we made about 300 Margaritas with the Tailgator in four hours. Had to name a couple of designated walkers to get some of the crew into the stadium. :-) -- Glenn Ashmore Hmm.....The Citadel's Stray Dog Society used my 800 watt mobile sound system truck at the last Citadel game where they whopped up on long-time rival Wofford College by one point, making it 4 wins in a row. After MANY drinks, the Stray Dogs brought me a Citadel Band CD that had "Dixie", the song they USED to play every time the ball carrier crossed the goal line, but are now forbidden to play because of political correctness. During the cheering, at 800 blistering watts through massive pro-sound speakers rated at twice that level, "Dixie" was played to the total delight of every Citadel alumni waving his hat, in true tradition..... Then came Monday morning........(d^:) The truck won't be at the game, Saturday. The Stray Dogs are "layin' low" for this one. Way too many drinks clouded their attitudes at the last one....(c; I hid in the truck behind my monitor..... Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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