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Hopefully after 7 years it has made its mandatory 10 trips back to the
factory so all the bugs are out. hanz wrote: John : look at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 74 It's a good price Hanz -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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It's a piece of SCG crap. Look at the $1.95 mike that comes with it
off an old CB from 1966! There's no reserve because he got fed up sending it back to SGC constantly to have it fixed. Real SSB radios say ICOM on them......M802 is $1695 at sailnet and $400 for the tuner. Works heavenly. Hold down MODE + TX + 2 for 3 seconds and it's a general coverage transmitter that will tune a 50' insulated backstay with the AT-140 tuner from 1.6 to 30 Mhz continuously! I was on 1860 Khz fooling around on 160 meters last night with it...(c; Larry W4CSC/MM S/V Lionheart Charleston On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:20:33 -0400, hanz wrote: John : look at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 74 It's a good price Hanz Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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Larry W4CSC wrote:
Real SSB radios say ICOM on them......M802 is $1695 at sailnet and $400 for the tuner. ... *I* would *never* do it because I *always* obey FCC rules but I've heard of certain scofflaws programing marine SSB channels into $725 Icom 706s for use with a $200 automatic tuner or even a (gasp) killer-watt amplifier ... (c: |
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Vito wrote: *I* would *never* do it because I *always* obey FCC rules but I've heard of certain scofflaws programing marine SSB channels into $725 Icom 706s for use with a $200 automatic tuner or even a (gasp) killer-watt amplifier ... (c: The M802 is bi. It comes legal for both ham and marine SSB. They have actually made it fairly easy to tune ham style. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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In article wVdgb.46934$sp2.5485@lakeread04,
Glenn Ashmore wrote: Hopefully after 7 years it has made its mandatory 10 trips back to the factory so all the bugs are out. hanz wrote: John : look at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 74 It's a good price Hanz This radio was never entirly invented. It has an extremely poor service history, and you see them at Ham Flea Markets, going for "Make Me an Offer" PLEASE!!!. You would be wasting you money. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Does the 802 also transmit on 10 meter ham band?
Bob, AK6R "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... It's a piece of SCG crap. Look at the $1.95 mike that comes with it off an old CB from 1966! There's no reserve because he got fed up sending it back to SGC constantly to have it fixed. Real SSB radios say ICOM on them......M802 is $1695 at sailnet and $400 for the tuner. Works heavenly. Hold down MODE + TX + 2 for 3 seconds and it's a general coverage transmitter that will tune a 50' insulated backstay with the AT-140 tuner from 1.6 to 30 Mhz continuously! I was on 1860 Khz fooling around on 160 meters last night with it...(c; Larry W4CSC/MM S/V Lionheart Charleston On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:20:33 -0400, hanz wrote: John : look at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 74 It's a good price Hanz Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 02:32:38 GMT, "Captain Bob"
wrote: Does the 802 also transmit on 10 meter ham band? Bob, AK6R Yes, it does. To put the M802 in wide-transmit mode (even CB if that's your question) Hold down MODE + TX together while pressing the number 2 key. To put it back in marine channel transmit only mode, simply repeat the above. I open the radio up when I'm aboard so I can chew on the ham bands, then toggle it back so my not-so-techie captain/owner doesn't get arrested out of his assigned channels....M802 makes that REAL easy! The procedure to open it up is taped to the bottom of the chart table lid, just in case I'm not aboard offshore and he can't get anyone to answer his distress call on marine bands or GMDSS/DSC, which is fully configured and working fine on our boat. That way, he can open up the transmit freqs, switch to one of the ham channels I know someone is on almost 24/7 like 14.300, 14.313, the various 40 and 75 meter net freqs and get help.....which IS legal in such an emergency on ANY frequency. Shhh....don't look in the passageway under the storage bins or you might find my "secret weapon" to overcome the damned marinas with 70' towers running 25W parking boats 50 yards from the tower jamming Ch 16. It's a 170W VHF linear amp to be used LEGALLY in the above emergencies, too. All one needs to do is switch it on. 25W in/170W out. Every boat should have one....just for emergency comms. Sue me. Marina shore licenses should all be limited to 1 watt with an antenna no higher than 20' AGL. The sooner the better for all of us...... Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Vito wrote: *I* would *never* do it because I *always* obey FCC rules but I've heard of certain scofflaws programing marine SSB channels into $725 Icom 706s for use with a $200 automatic tuner or even a (gasp) killer-watt amplifier ... (c: The M802 is bi. It comes legal for both ham and marine SSB. They have actually made it fairly easy to tune ham style. Yes indeed, and for only $975 more .... (c:. |
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Vito wrote: Glenn Ashmore wrote: Vito wrote: *I* would *never* do it because I *always* obey FCC rules but I've heard of certain scofflaws programing marine SSB channels into $725 Icom 706s for use with a $200 automatic tuner or even a (gasp) killer-watt amplifier ... (c: The M802 is bi. It comes legal for both ham and marine SSB. They have actually made it fairly easy to tune ham style. Yes indeed, and for only $975 more .... (c:. Now I'm not say'n anything agaist the 706. I ripped those two SM caps off the top board about 15 minutes after mine arrived. Would have done it sooner but needed to make sure it worked before I voided the warranty. :-) Added an AT-11 autotuner kit for another $90. I have become real attatched to this little bugger and plan to mount it right next to the M802 for just in case. :-) -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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What bothers me about the M802 is its openness. The case is open.
The cooling fan is INSIDE pulling the boat's salt-soaked, humid air into the case where ALL the boards, those cheap little white connectors they use on the antenna tuner and control cable connection are all over the boards INSIDE the case. Nothing is sealed, nada. One wonders if this is actually a catch-all radio used in many services with simply a different "programmer" front panel to change the access EEPROM from, say, marine to commercial to ham to whatever. It's, obviously, NOT a "marine radio", like its SEALED companion M602 sitting right next to it in our panel. I told IcomAmerica they should have made them the same way, with an external, replaceable fan, if needed. There isn't any place inside a BOAT that won't make it corrode......as any sailor knows. Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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It's a 170W VHF linear amp . . .
Aren't those a bit pricey? Midland: 71-3400T 100 Watt VHF Power Amplifier $2,379.00 |
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"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
... What bothers me about the M802 is its openness. The case is open. The cooling fan is INSIDE pulling the boat's salt-soaked, humid air into the case where ALL the boards, those cheap little white connectors they use on the antenna tuner and control cable connection are all over the boards INSIDE the case. Nothing is sealed, nada. I was working on a 96 ft yacht, some weeks ago. I was also wondering about this. Many units from expensive equipment were open: power supply units from the Sailor VHF's and even the black boxes from all (3) satellite systems. OTOH, I recently received one of my multiplexers back after a year of cruising: no oxidation whatsoever. And these are also open to salt air. Meindert |
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Not the ham radio ones.....
http://www.mirageamp.com/mirageamp/p...rodid=B-2518-G $329 but the street prices are lower at dealers. http://radcomm.bizland.com/rad-comm/id10.html $299 I'd like to STRESS the use of these amplifiers IS illegal UNLESS your life is threatened. They must be left OFF or disconnected until there is a real emergency. But, international radio laws all go out the window when lives are in danger. Then, you can blast 'em if you're able....ON ANY FREQUENCY YOU CAN GET ON, including the ham bands on HF in an emergency. Many boaters I meet do not understand that. There sits their HF SSB radios and they don't know how to get it transmitting on the ham bands for those dire emergencies. That's a shame..... I meant what I said about reducing marinas to 1 watt at 20 ft. That would clear a lot of interference on 16, not to mention 68, 69, 71, 72...some of which are ship-to-ship frequencies THEY are not supposed to be using. On 7 Oct 2003 21:16:23 -0700, (Mark) wrote: It's a 170W VHF linear amp . . . Aren't those a bit pricey? Midland: 71-3400T 100 Watt VHF Power Amplifier $2,379.00 Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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Is your multiplexer open to the air or is it potted, like Noland's,
where only the rust-proofed terminals are exposed? In the Icom the whole thing is exposed. The chinzy board connector failed before we ever got it to sea last weekend. This is the connector that connects the antenna tuner control cable to the main radio cabinet. The owner had bumped it sideways while installing a red/white light into the nav station, bending the cheap, flimsy contacts inside the cable connector. You can hardly crimp them on the cable without distorting them and Icom gives you NO SPARES in case you destroy one installing it. How stupid. It needs a REAL connector. A twist-lock connector like goes on the M602 would be nice. There's plenty of room inside the air plenum for it where it is currently mounted. Why does pleasure boat electronics have to be so damned cheap? On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:54:03 +0200, "Meindert Sprang" wrote: "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... What bothers me about the M802 is its openness. The case is open. The cooling fan is INSIDE pulling the boat's salt-soaked, humid air into the case where ALL the boards, those cheap little white connectors they use on the antenna tuner and control cable connection are all over the boards INSIDE the case. Nothing is sealed, nada. I was working on a 96 ft yacht, some weeks ago. I was also wondering about this. Many units from expensive equipment were open: power supply units from the Sailor VHF's and even the black boxes from all (3) satellite systems. OTOH, I recently received one of my multiplexers back after a year of cruising: no oxidation whatsoever. And these are also open to salt air. Meindert Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
... Is your multiplexer open to the air or is it potted, like Noland's, where only the rust-proofed terminals are exposed? In the Icom the whole thing is exposed. My multiplexers are not potted. That would prevent any opportunity to repair it or upgrade the software. I have given this a lot of thought and I have looked at other equipment that is not meant to be used outside the cabin. Many profesional equipment is also open to the air and the computers that people will connect the multiplexers to, are open too. The chinzy board connector failed before we ever got it to sea last weekend. This is the connector that connects the antenna tuner control cable to the main radio cabinet. The owner had bumped it sideways while installing a red/white light into the nav station, bending the cheap, flimsy contacts inside the cable connector. You can hardly crimp them on the cable without distorting them and Icom gives you NO SPARES in case you destroy one installing it. How stupid. It needs a REAL connector. A twist-lock connector like goes on the M602 would be nice. There's plenty of room inside the air plenum for it where it is currently mounted. I chose screw terminals. They are rigid and in many cases where people install equipment, the first thing they'll do is cut off fixed connectors because the cable has to go through a hole or gland. Why does pleasure boat electronics have to be so damned cheap? Because the consumers want it to be :-) Meindert |
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:26:45 +0200, "Meindert Sprang"
wrote: I chose screw terminals. They are rigid and in many cases where people install equipment, the first thing they'll do is cut off fixed connectors because the cable has to go through a hole or gland. I just wish you'd all consider SHIELDING and CONFORMANCE to the NMEA standard of a BALANCED system....not just you, all of them. It would sure make listening to HF SSB, NAVTEX, WEFAX and VHF marine bands much more enjoyable. All this unbalanced, unshielded BS is tearing up the radios. FCC simply needs to step in and FORCE compliance with all the various classes of computer interference regulations already on the books. No type acceptance and conformance to the standard.....no selling it in the USA.....just like your notebook from Japan..... Noone is enforcing the radiation restrictions on NMEA manufacturers, obviously. It's way past time to start. Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
... On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:26:45 +0200, "Meindert Sprang" wrote: I chose screw terminals. They are rigid and in many cases where people install equipment, the first thing they'll do is cut off fixed connectors because the cable has to go through a hole or gland. I just wish you'd all consider SHIELDING and CONFORMANCE to the NMEA standard of a BALANCED system....not just you, all of them. It would sure make listening to HF SSB, NAVTEX, WEFAX and VHF marine bands much more enjoyable. All this unbalanced, unshielded BS is tearing up the radios. Well, first of all, the NMEA standard does not specify to use shielding. It says in paragraph 3.1 that "interconnection MAY be by means of a two-conductor, shielded, twisted-pair wire". So, it is not mandatory. And in my opinion not nesseccary. Think about UTP on 100Mb networks. They can be quiet with the occasional ferrite ring core at 100Mb. So to be quiet at 4800 bps wouldn't be a problem at all. Using a balanced system is indeed the best way to go. And with the mandatory galvanic isolation on the inputs, NMEA-0183 would be a perfect system. If everybody just made it how it was dictated by the NMEA..... If you look at our multiplexers, you see there is a GND connection at the balanced NMEA outputs, to accomodate the connection of the shields, as per NMEA standard. And with sufficient internal decoupling and slew rate-control on the signals, these screw terminals serve their purpose and the whole setup does not radiate, nor is it susceptible to radiation, all within the FCC/IEC limits. We tested up to 10V/m. FCC simply needs to step in and FORCE compliance with all the various classes of computer interference regulations already on the books. No type acceptance and conformance to the standard.....no selling it in the USA.....just like your notebook from Japan..... I always believed this was already the case. If I ship to the USA, I have to fill in a form from Fedex, stating that the goods comply with the FCC regulations. So as far as I know, it already IS illegal to sell goods without compliance with FCC rules in the USA. It is the same as here in Europe, where a CE marking is required, indicating that the equipment complies with the corresponding EC directives, in this case IEC61000-6-1 and IEC61000-6-3, which is very similar to FCC Title 47 CFR, Part 15 Class B. The 'funny' thing is, Noland has no FCC compliance..... ;-) Meindert |
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Bruce in Alaska wrote:
They must be left OFF AND disconnected until there is a real emergency. The law only limits the power measured to the antenna, so unless the silly amp is used no laws will be broken. This is a voluntary ship station, it isn't CB so it is not illegal equipment to own or have installed. It's only illegal to use other than in an emergency. The real issue is what kind of idiot thinks transmitting in the blind on VHF is better than an EPIRB to begin with. Nothing quite like saturating the ether with panic stricken calls from some idiot who can't hear a reply anyway. Would be better off letting the EPIRB do its thing and use the time to deal with the emergency. Sounds like a dilettante spending his sugar daddy's money by pretending to be some kind of expert. Rick |
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In article . net,
Rick wrote: The law only limits the power measured to the antenna, so unless the silly amp is used no laws will be broken. This is a voluntary ship station, it isn't CB so it is not illegal equipment to own or have installed. It's only illegal to use other than in an emergency. Bzzzt, Wrong Answer, would you like to try again, or take what's behind Door Number 2??? All Part 80 Radio Equipemnt MUST be Type Accepted, by the FCC for use under any Part 80 License. As part of the Type Acceptance Process the OEM must show Power Output as well as other aspects of the Technical Specifacations for the Equipment. Any change in Power Output by addition of an external amplifier would VOID the Type Acceptance for the equipment, because they were not Type Accepted as a Total System. Having a NON Type Accepted system installed and connected to an antenna, and Power is not within the rules of Part 80, and therefor Actionable by an FCC Field Agent, if he so chooses to do so when he finds the equipment. The real issue is what kind of idiot thinks transmitting in the blind on VHF is better than an EPIRB to begin with. Nothing quite like saturating the ether with panic stricken calls from some idiot who can't hear a reply anyway. Would be better off letting the EPIRB do its thing and use the time to deal with the emergency. You are EXACTLY correct on the above observation. Under GMDSS, the First Notification of an Emergency should be by EPIRB, and then by MF, HF, or VHF depending on which Sea Area the vessel is located in. Unfortunatly our government is so far behind in deployment of GMDSS by the USCG, that screaming on Ch16, and or 4125.0 Khz is still the best way to get local attention. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Not to change the subject but I thought in Alaska 4125.0 was for water
but only had good coverage during "normal" business hours. The rest of the time, the general interior Alaskan emergency freq. (5167.5) is a better bet. It's been a while since I've been up there but does that still hold true? Mike Bruce in Alaska wrote: In article . net, Rick wrote: The law only limits the power measured to the antenna, so unless the silly amp is used no laws will be broken. This is a voluntary ship station, it isn't CB so it is not illegal equipment to own or have installed. It's only illegal to use other than in an emergency. Bzzzt, Wrong Answer, would you like to try again, or take what's behind Door Number 2??? All Part 80 Radio Equipemnt MUST be Type Accepted, by the FCC for use under any Part 80 License. As part of the Type Acceptance Process the OEM must show Power Output as well as other aspects of the Technical Specifacations for the Equipment. Any change in Power Output by addition of an external amplifier would VOID the Type Acceptance for the equipment, because they were not Type Accepted as a Total System. Having a NON Type Accepted system installed and connected to an antenna, and Power is not within the rules of Part 80, and therefor Actionable by an FCC Field Agent, if he so chooses to do so when he finds the equipment. The real issue is what kind of idiot thinks transmitting in the blind on VHF is better than an EPIRB to begin with. Nothing quite like saturating the ether with panic stricken calls from some idiot who can't hear a reply anyway. Would be better off letting the EPIRB do its thing and use the time to deal with the emergency. You are EXACTLY correct on the above observation. Under GMDSS, the First Notification of an Emergency should be by EPIRB, and then by MF, HF, or VHF depending on which Sea Area the vessel is located in. Unfortunatly our government is so far behind in deployment of GMDSS by the USCG, that screaming on Ch16, and or 4125.0 Khz is still the best way to get local attention. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Bruce in Alaska wrote:
All Part 80 Radio Equipemnt MUST be Type Accepted, by the FCC for use under any Part 80 License. As part of the Type Acceptance Process the OEM must show Power Output as well as other aspects of the Technical Specifacations for the Equipment. Any change in Power Output by addition of an external amplifier would VOID the Type Acceptance for the equipment, because they were not Type Accepted as a Total System. ... and therefor Actionable by an FCC Field Agent, if he so chooses to do so when he finds the equipment. Interesting, but does all the voluntary station equipment have to meet Part 80 requirements? Icom used to make a "power booster" a little 1W in 25W out VHF amplifier for their ML25 handheld and if I recall correctly it was only Part 15 qualified. It was sold by all the best yachtie stores. Having a NON Type Accepted system installed and connected to an antenna, and Power is not within the rules of Part 80, If it isn't powered up and delivering more than 50 watts to the antenna then it is just another part of the feedline and, like coax, isn't certified in any event. Could be wrong but since I am not going to waste time or money playing such stupid games it is academic ... 8-) Rick |
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In article et,
Rick wrote: Bruce in Alaska wrote: All Part 80 Radio Equipemnt MUST be Type Accepted, by the FCC for use under any Part 80 License. As part of the Type Acceptance Process the OEM must show Power Output as well as other aspects of the Technical Specifacations for the Equipment. Any change in Power Output by addition of an external amplifier would VOID the Type Acceptance for the equipment, because they were not Type Accepted as a Total System. ... and therefor Actionable by an FCC Field Agent, if he so chooses to do so when he finds the equipment. Interesting, but does all the voluntary station equipment have to meet Part 80 requirements? Icom used to make a "power booster" a little 1W in 25W out VHF amplifier for their ML25 handheld and if I recall correctly it was only Part 15 qualified. It was sold by all the best yachtie stores. Having a NON Type Accepted system installed and connected to an antenna, and Power is not within the rules of Part 80, If it isn't powered up and delivering more than 50 watts to the antenna then it is just another part of the feedline and, like coax, isn't certified in any event. Could be wrong but since I am not going to waste time or money playing such stupid games it is academic ... 8-) Rick Any installed Equipment on a US Flagged vessel, that transmits on Part 80 Frequencies, MUST be Type Accepted. Voluntary Equipped Vessels are still Licensed by the FCC. They are just covered under a "Blanket License" that applies to all Noncommercial Vessels that DONOT leave US Territorial Waters. CB Radios, FRS Radios, and a few others are also covered by similat "Blanket Licenses". These "Blanket Licenses" also REQUIRE Type Accepted Equipment. The Part 80 50 Watt limit is not for Vessels but for Maritime Mobile Public and Private Coast Stations, and is a specifc exemption from the Power Limitations Rules, where the Power is allowed to be measured at the Antenna Feedpoint rather than at the output of the Transmitting Equipemnt. This allows for a coast Station not to count the feedline loss into the Maximum Power Output calculation. No other Radio Service that I am aware of has this type of Rule. The Icom Power booster WAS Type Accepted as a SYSTEM with most of the Marine Icom Handhelds that were being sold at the time it was sold. Check the FCC Type Acceptance Publication and see for your self. If the amp is in the feedline and connected to Power, it is concidered to be OPERATIONL, if it is turned on or not, and not just part of the feedline. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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In article ,
Stilz wrote: Not to change the subject but I thought in Alaska 4125.0 was for water but only had good coverage during "normal" business hours. The rest of the time, the general interior Alaskan emergency freq. (5167.5) is a better bet. It's been a while since I've been up there but does that still hold true? Mike Bruce in Alaska wrote: In article . net, Rick wrote: The law only limits the power measured to the antenna, so unless the silly amp is used no laws will be broken. This is a voluntary ship station, it isn't CB so it is not illegal equipment to own or have installed. It's only illegal to use other than in an emergency. Bzzzt, Wrong Answer, would you like to try again, or take what's behind Door Number 2??? All Part 80 Radio Equipemnt MUST be Type Accepted, by the FCC for use under any Part 80 License. As part of the Type Acceptance Process the OEM must show Power Output as well as other aspects of the Technical Specifacations for the Equipment. Any change in Power Output by addition of an external amplifier would VOID the Type Acceptance for the equipment, because they were not Type Accepted as a Total System. Having a NON Type Accepted system installed and connected to an antenna, and Power is not within the rules of Part 80, and therefor Actionable by an FCC Field Agent, if he so chooses to do so when he finds the equipment. The real issue is what kind of idiot thinks transmitting in the blind on VHF is better than an EPIRB to begin with. Nothing quite like saturating the ether with panic stricken calls from some idiot who can't hear a reply anyway. Would be better off letting the EPIRB do its thing and use the time to deal with the emergency. You are EXACTLY correct on the above observation. Under GMDSS, the First Notification of an Emergency should be by EPIRB, and then by MF, HF, or VHF depending on which Sea Area the vessel is located in. Unfortunatly our government is so far behind in deployment of GMDSS by the USCG, that screaming on Ch16, and or 4125.0 Khz is still the best way to get local attention. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ 4125.0 Khz is an International High Seas Calling and Working Frequency under the ITU and FCC Part 80. It has become the DEFACTO Emergency Frequency for the whole North Pacific in that USCG Station Kodiak has their 15Kw Station listening Watch 24/7 on that frequency. Also all the NOAA High Sea's Weather Stations collect and distribute the North Pacific Wx on 4125.0Khz, so that is where all the vessels hang out. The Alaska 5167.5Khz Frequency was originally an Alaska Public an Private Fixed frequency that was converted to Calling and Emergency about 10 years ago. It received some use but now is mostly not being monitored anywhere on a 24/7 basis, but remains "On the Books" as an HF backup for Natural Disaster Communications. Telepones and Cellular have replaced the need for most of the MF and HF Comms, so previlent in the 1900's in alaska. I started out as a Traveling Radioman for Northern Radio Co,repairing and installing the OLD AM MF and HF Public and Private Coast and Public and Private Fixed Stations that formed the backbone of Alaska Communications back in the 60's. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Similar rules in Australia (only if your interested) not meaning to but in.
The RIs here (Radio Inspectors) can confiscate any equipment capable of being used in the transmission of an illegal signal. That includes any vehicles or property used in the transportation or housing of said equipment. The word capable is the important one. Your gear can be in boxes and the mast and Yagi packet away but it's capable. Misuse of the spectrum here is on par (legally) with drug dealing and kidnapping. The jail terms can be about the same. -- Jason There are 10 types of people - those who understand binary and those who don't. "Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message ... In article et, Rick wrote: Bruce in Alaska wrote: All Part 80 Radio Equipemnt MUST be Type Accepted, by the FCC for use under any Part 80 License. As part of the Type Acceptance Process the OEM must show Power Output as well as other aspects of the Technical Specifacations for the Equipment. Any change in Power Output by addition of an external amplifier would VOID the Type Acceptance for the equipment, because they were not Type Accepted as a Total System. ... and therefor Actionable by an FCC Field Agent, if he so chooses to do so when he finds the equipment. Interesting, but does all the voluntary station equipment have to meet Part 80 requirements? Icom used to make a "power booster" a little 1W in 25W out VHF amplifier for their ML25 handheld and if I recall correctly it was only Part 15 qualified. It was sold by all the best yachtie stores. Having a NON Type Accepted system installed and connected to an antenna, and Power is not within the rules of Part 80, If it isn't powered up and delivering more than 50 watts to the antenna then it is just another part of the feedline and, like coax, isn't certified in any event. Could be wrong but since I am not going to waste time or money playing such stupid games it is academic ... 8-) Rick Any installed Equipment on a US Flagged vessel, that transmits on Part 80 Frequencies, MUST be Type Accepted. Voluntary Equipped Vessels are still Licensed by the FCC. They are just covered under a "Blanket License" that applies to all Noncommercial Vessels that DONOT leave US Territorial Waters. CB Radios, FRS Radios, and a few others are also covered by similat "Blanket Licenses". These "Blanket Licenses" also REQUIRE Type Accepted Equipment. The Part 80 50 Watt limit is not for Vessels but for Maritime Mobile Public and Private Coast Stations, and is a specifc exemption from the Power Limitations Rules, where the Power is allowed to be measured at the Antenna Feedpoint rather than at the output of the Transmitting Equipemnt. This allows for a coast Station not to count the feedline loss into the Maximum Power Output calculation. No other Radio Service that I am aware of has this type of Rule. The Icom Power booster WAS Type Accepted as a SYSTEM with most of the Marine Icom Handhelds that were being sold at the time it was sold. Check the FCC Type Acceptance Publication and see for your self. If the amp is in the feedline and connected to Power, it is concidered to be OPERATIONL, if it is turned on or not, and not just part of the feedline. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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Thanks Bruce!
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