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GJ Walsh September 23rd 03 06:59 PM

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Has anyone heard of companies offering Broadband for boats?

FredB September 23rd 03 07:05 PM

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In Wash try http://www.bbxpress.net/


Julian September 23rd 03 11:16 PM

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"GJ Walsh" wrote in message ...
Has anyone heard of companies offering Broadband for boats?


Do you mean in a marina or while underway? Right now I think the closest
to full worldwide coverage at broadband speed is Tracnet. KVH have
a nice website that includes that includes good info, coverage maps and
airtime pricing: http://www.kvh.com/MarineSat/index.asp?flash=yes.

Inmarsat are launching their next generation satellites this year and next
(Inmarsat4) that I think will provide wider coverage but I have no idea
what the speed and pricing is likely to be on that.

- Julian.



Mark September 24th 03 10:11 AM

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"Julian" wrote in message ...
"GJ Walsh" wrote in message ...
Has anyone heard of companies offering Broadband for boats?


Do you mean in a marina or while underway? Right now I think the closest
to full worldwide coverage at broadband speed is Tracnet. KVH have
a nice website that includes that includes good info, coverage maps and
airtime pricing: http://www.kvh.com/MarineSat/index.asp?flash=yes.

Inmarsat are launching their next generation satellites this year and next
(Inmarsat4) that I think will provide wider coverage but I have no idea
what the speed and pricing is likely to be on that.

- Julian.


I guess that you are referring to Inmarsat Regional BGAN here, where
speeds of up to 144kbit/s are quoted. This is reputed to be based off
GPRS and is now apparently recognised as being a satellite version of
the the 2.5G/3G Wireless standards.

Take a look at http://www.tiscsat.com/Inmarsatbgan1.html for info.
There is much more info avaiable on R-BAGN - just do a Google.

Equipment pricing seems quite high and I dare say that usage costs are
high too. Fortunately, R-BGAN seems to follow the GPRS model and you
are only charged for your data usage and not by time.

Hope this helps,
Mark

Dick Locke September 24th 03 07:34 PM

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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:58:47 -0400, Vito wrote:

No reason marinas
couldn't do the same if the demand was there.


My marina, Emery Cove in Emeryville CA offers wifi for $29.95 per
month. That's cheaper than my home cable modem, I might move my office
onto the boat...

Meindert Sprang September 24th 03 10:24 PM

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"Karl Denninger" wrote in message
...


Inmarsat are launching their next generation satellites this year and

next
(Inmarsat4) that I think will provide wider coverage but I have no idea
what the speed and pricing is likely to be on that.

- Julian.


Underway is god-awful expensive to use.


But some do have the doe for it. I've just set up a linux router on a yacht,
offering internet to all PC's aboard (12+) through two MPDS satellite
systems, one ISDN and one GSM for near-coast access. Wouldn't like to pay
their monthly bill though....

Meindert



Doug Dotson September 25th 03 04:46 AM

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What do you mean "Is it working? Or is it an Internet bubble?"?
These questions don't seem to be an "or" situation. Answer is
my marina is that, Yes it is working, and Yes it is a bubble.
Yes, yachtsmen (whatever that means) are interested.
Yes, they really are using it.

Doug


"Michel Pineau" wrote in message
om...
eyAOL (GJ Walsh) wrote in message

...
Has anyone heard of companies offering Broadband for boats?


At the very moment around the world companies are offerering :
1°) Satellite broad band, world wide... fairly expensive, say 1$ to $9
per minute depending on the speed say from 2.4 kbps to 64 kbps

2°) All around the world, many local area wireless connexion using
Wireless hot spots on places like marinas and moorings areas: it's
either free or cheap
Please check the list underneath...

I've got a question: all those marinas are offering internet
connexion...
Is it working? Or is it a new internet "bubble"?
Are yachtsmen interested?
Are they really using those facilities?



a) Marinas : have a look :
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/7/prweb71274.htm (Spain)
http://www.bbxpress.net/ (Washington - BC )
http://wifinetnews.com/archives/002083.html (Washington State and B.C.
marinas get Wi-Fi: An entrepreneur has unwired 21 marinas. Service can
be reached in some places 2 miles out of the marina, and costs $6.95
per day or $39.95 per month. Better yet, the company says they have
1,000 people signed up, although from the article it's hard to tell
whether that means "sessions and subscriptions" or just
subscriptions.)
http://www.teleseawireless.net/produ...eseagold.shtml (US : West &
East coast - Honolulu...)
http://www.ezgoal.com/hotspots/wireless/c.asp?cid=7 (US)
http://www.firstboat.com/news/wireless.html(Miami-based Global
Wireless Services Inc. has outfitted about 30 marinas across the
country with WLAN technology and plans to have about 250 marinas in
its portfolio by year-end.)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/134910_broadband14.html(Pacific
Northwest, stretching from Coal Harbour Marina in Vancouver, B.C., to
the Elliott Bay Marina in Seattle)
http://www.etherport.net/control-servlet?cmd=locations (Spain :
Baleares)
There is about 18 big marinas fitted in England.
http://www.intersync.com/en/index.htm (England - France)
http://www.seabyte.com/marina.htm (UK)

http://www.marinabranchee.net/marina...888f93c2 0e66
(Canada : Quebec)
...
Know some others?

b) mooring areas :
"However, there is a (lovely mooring) place called Desolation Island
where they also installed repeaters and that has changed the nature of
the place. "
http://blogger.iftf.org/place/000098.html

Any other places like?


Thanks for your interest.

Michel Pineau
France - Brittany
http://bateaupassion.free.fr (sorry its in French)




Julian September 25th 03 02:08 PM

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"Mark Pate" wrote in message ...
"Julian" wrote in message
...
I had come across the Regional BGAN stuff while I was Googling to
try and find out more details of the upcoming Inmarsat4 stuff being
put into orbit at the moment. It seems to be being positioned as the

global
equivalent to Regional BGAN but I couldn't fing any solid data on
speed or price yet.

- Julian


According to some other blurb that I have read, the speeds are in excess of
432kbit/s, but this service is not due out until 2004.


Thanks. That sounds about right. I'm dying to know what the pricing is going
to be when this is finally available. Given that I can't afford my dream boat for
at least another 5 years I would hope that by that time the Inmarsat4 offerings
will have started to become affordable. I'm sure it's going to cost a fortune for
the first few years after launch but once they figure they've milked the early
adopters then prices should start to fall.

- Julian.



Dave Baker September 25th 03 02:47 PM

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:08:21 +0100, "Julian" wrote:

Thanks. That sounds about right. I'm dying to know what the pricing is going
to be when this is finally available. Given that I can't afford my dream boat for
at least another 5 years I would hope that by that time the Inmarsat4 offerings
will have started to become affordable. I'm sure it's going to cost a fortune for
the first few years after launch but once they figure they've milked the early
adopters then prices should start to fall.


Given that Inmarsat is offering US$3000 or more worth of free airtime to
early adopters of Fleet & other marine broadband systems, I'd be pretty sure
the monthly bills will be outside the reach of most yachties! :-)

Dave

Bruce Gordon September 25th 03 07:59 PM

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In article ,
eyAOL (GJ Walsh) wrote:

Has anyone heard of companies offering Broadband for boats?


We offer WiFi to boaters who visit us here in alaska. Our
charge is $5.00US per day, $15US/week or $75US for the summer.

Bruce in alaska
www.99850.net

--
Bruce (semiretired powderman & exFCC Field Inspector for Southeastern Alaska)
add a 2 before @
Bruce Gordon * Debora Gordon R.N. Bruce's Trading Post
P.O. Box EXI Excursion Inlet South
Juneau, Alaska 99850 Excursion Inlet, Alaska 99850
www.btpost.net www.99850.net

Larry W4CSC September 28th 03 03:35 PM

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Ashley Marina now provides free 802.11b Wi-Fi access via DSL from two
transmitters to all its permanent residents and transient visitors.
Turn on your Wi-Fi notebook and simply pick Ashley Marina from the
list of things it hears. No passwords, etc., it's free.

If you come up the Ashley River about 6 miles, my SSID at 50 ft up the
tower is 3 and it's open, too, on my system. Help yourselves. It has
a range of about a mile without an external antenna, 2 miles if you
use a Pringle's can Wi-Fi antenna at 25'. Pringle's can antennas are
easy to build from:
http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html

and, if you're cruising the Red Sea lazing about on the quarterdeck:
http://www.d128.com/wireless/

Many seaport communities have community networks rising up:
http://www.toaster.net/wireless/community.html

And, if you're lucky enough to be spending Christmas in Auckland, NZ:
http://www.roamad.com/roam_home_demo_nf.html

Here's another great place to cruise:
http://www.bbwexchange.com/





On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:58:47 -0400, Vito wrote:

Julian wrote:

"GJ Walsh" wrote in message ...
Has anyone heard of companies offering Broadband for boats?


Do you mean in a marina or while underway? ...


If in a marina check out "wifi". Basically, if anyone buys broadband and
a wireless modem and does not reset the presets so the modem "sees" only
his IP addresses (most do not) then anybody in RF range of his modem
with a wireless card in his PC can access the internet via that person's
node. Legal? AFAIK it's not illegal but it kinda smacks of theft.
Anyway, this has led some broadband ISPs to legitimately offer "wifi"
service to campgrounds, truckstops, etc where it is proving very
popular. When camping I pay a small daily fee ($0-5) and rent a card if
I don't have my own and presto - broadband access! No reason marinas
couldn't do the same if the demand was there.



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Larry W4CSC September 28th 03 03:36 PM

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Oops....Ashley Marina is located 1/2 mile upriver under the 55'
clearance bridge where Wappoo Cut empties out into Charleston Harbor
in Charleston, South Carolina.....monitors 16/68



On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:58:47 -0400, Vito wrote:

Julian wrote:

"GJ Walsh" wrote in message ...
Has anyone heard of companies offering Broadband for boats?


Do you mean in a marina or while underway? ...


If in a marina check out "wifi". Basically, if anyone buys broadband and
a wireless modem and does not reset the presets so the modem "sees" only
his IP addresses (most do not) then anybody in RF range of his modem
with a wireless card in his PC can access the internet via that person's
node. Legal? AFAIK it's not illegal but it kinda smacks of theft.
Anyway, this has led some broadband ISPs to legitimately offer "wifi"
service to campgrounds, truckstops, etc where it is proving very
popular. When camping I pay a small daily fee ($0-5) and rent a card if
I don't have my own and presto - broadband access! No reason marinas
couldn't do the same if the demand was there.



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

GJ Walsh September 28th 03 03:42 PM

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I had asked the question because I ran into a guy in my neighborhood library
who said as a business consultant he kad a client who was in the BB for boats
business and as I wait for this guy to get back to me with details on possible
employment I wanted to learn more. ALl posts, thank you, have been helpful.
Anymore regarding employment (I am in Maine) for sales and marketing and
general info are welcome. I am grateful.

GJ Walsh (@aol) . com


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