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No wind for the windvane and the tiller pilot is TU. Hand steering
under power.
Gordon

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"Gordon" wrote in message
m...

No wind for the windvane and the tiller pilot is TU. Hand steering under
power.
Gordon

Told ya'all so. Didn't I say at the very beginning he was relying too much
on electrical gadgets and did not have near enough solar panel or wind
turbine power to keep up? Did I also not mention that he knows nothing about
electrical circuits, motors etc? Also, he has little or no grip on the fact
that sailing around the world and motoring around the world are two
different things. Also this constant stopping to have somebody else fix
things with air freighted in parts and "Daddy and Mommy" holding his hand
constantly via sat phone makes a mockery out of the whole affair.

Did I not say his motor would crap out and it has several times forcing him
into port like a Skippy wannabe? His entire ill-conceived trip is just his
"live vicariously" parents putting the boy in harm's way. They ought to be
arrested for child endangerment.

"Youngest person to be baby-sat around the world." Is that something about
which to brag? I'd be ashamed to show my face if I were poor Zac. He's
become a laughing stock thanks to his manipulative parents. I feel sorry for
the lad. Ill used and a false spectacle!

Wilbur Hubbard

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
No wind for the windvane and the tiller pilot is TU. Hand steering under
power.
Gordon

Told ya'all so. Didn't I say at the very beginning he was relying too much
on electrical gadgets and did not have near enough solar panel or wind
turbine power to keep up? Did I also not mention that he knows nothing about
electrical circuits, motors etc? Also, he has little or no grip on the fact
that sailing around the world and motoring around the world are two
different things. Also this constant stopping to have somebody else fix
things with air freighted in parts and "Daddy and Mommy" holding his hand
constantly via sat phone makes a mockery out of the whole affair.

Did I not say his motor would crap out and it has several times forcing him
into port like a Skippy wannabe? His entire ill-conceived trip is just his
"live vicariously" parents putting the boy in harm's way. They ought to be
arrested for child endangerment.

"Youngest person to be baby-sat around the world." Is that something about
which to brag? I'd be ashamed to show my face if I were poor Zac. He's
become a laughing stock thanks to his manipulative parents. I feel sorry for
the lad. Ill used and a false spectacle!

Wilbur Hubbard


So Wilbur,
Whatta ya think of Tanya Abib? (Did I misspell that?)

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"hpeer" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
No wind for the windvane and the tiller pilot is TU. Hand steering
under power.
Gordon

Told ya'all so. Didn't I say at the very beginning he was relying too
much on electrical gadgets and did not have near enough solar panel or
wind turbine power to keep up? Did I also not mention that he knows
nothing about electrical circuits, motors etc? Also, he has little or no
grip on the fact that sailing around the world and motoring around the
world are two different things. Also this constant stopping to have
somebody else fix things with air freighted in parts and "Daddy and
Mommy" holding his hand constantly via sat phone makes a mockery out of
the whole affair.

Did I not say his motor would crap out and it has several times forcing
him into port like a Skippy wannabe? His entire ill-conceived trip is
just his "live vicariously" parents putting the boy in harm's way. They
ought to be arrested for child endangerment.

"Youngest person to be baby-sat around the world." Is that something
about which to brag? I'd be ashamed to show my face if I were poor Zac.
He's become a laughing stock thanks to his manipulative parents. I feel
sorry for the lad. Ill used and a false spectacle!

Wilbur Hubbard
So Wilbur,
Whatta ya think of Tanya Abib? (Did I misspell that?)


Tanya Abie of "Maiden Voyage" fame was twice the man poor Zac is. She had a
little help from her father on a couple occasions but nothing as ridiculous
as poor Zac. His parents are holding the baby bottle full of warm milk for
him, for Pete's sake.

Wilbur Hubbard

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


Tanya Abie of "Maiden Voyage" fame was twice the man poor Zac is. She had a
little help from her father on a couple occasions but nothing as ridiculous
as poor Zac. His parents are holding the baby bottle full of warm milk for
him, for Pete's sake.


Well, I have to agree. IMO, he has failed in his attempt. Two stoppages
and that's that. Here's a report:

"At midnight last Saturday the forestay of his 36-foot yacht Intrepid
separated from the chain plate at the bow while he was battling 20 knots
of wind and 10 foot seas. Luckily, the yacht has an inner forestay which
kept the mast up."

"Battling" 10 foot seas and 20 kt winds? Battling? Good grief. It makes
it sound like he was beset with a typhoon and 150 kt winds. If he were
to finish, he'd have accomplished nothing.

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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:19:54 -0700, slide
wrote:

"Battling" 10 foot seas and 20 kt winds? Battling? Good grief. It makes
it sound like he was beset with a typhoon and 150 kt winds. If he were
to finish, he'd have accomplished nothing.

Have you ever sailed a 36 ft boat in 10 ft seas and 20 knot winds for
any length of time ? It gets old pretty quickly.

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On 2008-11-11 19:56:21 -0500, Wayne.B said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:19:54 -0700, slide
wrote:

"Battling" 10 foot seas and 20 kt winds? Battling? Good grief. It makes
it sound like he was beset with a typhoon and 150 kt winds. If he were
to finish, he'd have accomplished nothing.

Have you ever sailed a 36 ft boat in 10 ft seas and 20 knot winds for
any length of time? It gets old pretty quickly.

I have. (actually was 31' through 50' at various times; winds and waves
exceeded those values) Piece of cake compared to a few hours of 15-20
and 3+ waves on the Chesapeake.

I've done 8 hours against 30+ and 6+ feet on the Bay with 28' and loved
it as a "done that" thing, but would much rather face what was reported
for Zac.

20 knots is a welcome occurrence to most of the world-travellers I've
followed. That such caused equipment failure points to other problems
in the equation of equipment and crew.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008111121584027544-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-11-11 19:56:21 -0500, Wayne.B
said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:19:54 -0700, slide
wrote:

"Battling" 10 foot seas and 20 kt winds? Battling? Good grief. It makes
it sound like he was beset with a typhoon and 150 kt winds. If he were
to finish, he'd have accomplished nothing.

Have you ever sailed a 36 ft boat in 10 ft seas and 20 knot winds for any
length of time? It gets old pretty quickly.

I have. (actually was 31' through 50' at various times; winds and waves
exceeded those values) Piece of cake compared to a few hours of 15-20 and
3+ waves on the Chesapeake.

I've done 8 hours against 30+ and 6+ feet on the Bay with 28' and loved it
as a "done that" thing, but would much rather face what was reported for
Zac.

20 knots is a welcome occurrence to most of the world-travellers I've
followed. That such caused equipment failure points to other problems in
the equation of equipment and crew.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



I sailed for two days (pretty much) into 30 kts. No idea of the wave
height.. at least 10'. I don't really want to ever do that again. That was
on a 48' CT, which is a damn heavy boat.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008111121584027544-jerelull@maccom...
"Battling" 10 foot seas and 20 kt winds? Battling? Good grief. It makes
it sound like he was beset with a typhoon and 150 kt winds. If he were
to finish, he'd have accomplished nothing.
20 knots is a welcome occurrence to most of the world-travellers I've
followed. That such caused equipment failure points to other problems in
the equation of equipment and crew.

Don't blame Zac for the journos hype - they're the ones trying to make a
hero out of him.
Zac's own words when describing the conditions we "I was going between
6-7 knots in a nice 25 knot Indian Ocean trade on the aft quarter. ... I
switched on the spreader lights and found my gennie 15 feet from the boat
held by the furling line and the sheet. It looked like a spinnaker."
(quoted from his blog on www.zacsunderland.com)

He goes on to describe a bit of a battle getting the sail furled. I can
identify with that - furling a hanked on genny is quite a handful in 25 kt
and with a wrecked roller furler must have been quite a challenge.

I agree that he has had rather more outside support than is normal but I was
listening to the Volvo Ocean Race crew at the weekend and they have
considerably more external support. Their bosses know where they are every
15 minutes and virtually rebuild the boat in every port!

John.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:19:54 -0700, slide
wrote:

"Battling" 10 foot seas and 20 kt winds? Battling? Good grief. It makes
it sound like he was beset with a typhoon and 150 kt winds. If he were
to finish, he'd have accomplished nothing.

Have you ever sailed a 36 ft boat in 10 ft seas and 20 knot winds for
any length of time ? It gets old pretty quickly.

32' boat. I found single handing a much larger boat (42') tougher due to
the larger rig. So what's your point? That a single hander RTW try
should be easy?