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Stephen Trapani May 6th 04 02:40 AM

Headsail size?
 
The Hunter 33' I'm getting has no headsails, maybe just a spinnaker. I
think I can talk this guy I'm buying the boat from into including a
headsail. I intend to buy used sails so I have the biggest possible
genoa (what size would that be, full leach obviously, foot back to
where?), a 100, and a storm jib. He has a bunch of random sails from
smaller boats, he says.

The 100 has to go all the way to the top, right? So I need to measure
the exact leach? Probably little chance of getting that from him? So I
was thinking I could get a storm jib from him. What size should it be
relative to my boat measurements. If someone has a Hunter 33' and can
tell me the exact sizes that would be fabulous.

If this is too much work to answer, is there an internet source that can
answer this?

Stephen

jdmarchand May 6th 04 04:19 AM

Headsail size?
 
Stephen:

I would first get myself a good book on the theory and practise of sailing
and learn a bit about sail performance and terminology. You seem to be a bit
mixed up in your terms.

A 135% genoa (any good sailing theory book will explain how this is
measured) is generally the best all around compromise. If you generally sail
in light air, a 150% might be better. If you routinely sail in heavy wind, a
100-120% would be better.

David



Stephen Trapani May 6th 04 05:03 AM

Headsail size?
 
jdmarchand wrote:

Stephen:

I would first get myself a good book on the theory and practise of sailing
and learn a bit about sail performance and terminology. You seem to be a bit
mixed up in your terms.

A 135% genoa (any good sailing theory book will explain how this is
measured) is generally the best all around compromise. If you generally sail
in light air, a 150% might be better. If you routinely sail in heavy wind, a
100-120% would be better.

David



Thanks, I'll get one of those books right away. In fact I have a friend
who has one. I'll need to borrow it if I want to beat him racing.

But I need to make this sail decision day after tomorrow, for the free
storm jib, and I thought someone might have a quick forumula for the
measurements a storm jib should be, or any jib/genoa if someone can.
That will be in the book? I can get it right away, I guess.

I'll know the height of my mast, the length of the boom, etc. I'll
investigate much further before buying any sails later.

Stephen

Matt Koch May 6th 04 03:05 PM

Headsail size?
 
Stephen

In a nutshell, the percentages are arrived at as follows. Assume a sail
that "goes to the top of the mast".

Measue the horizontal distance from where the forestay attaches to the bow
to the mast.

A sail that extends exaclty to the mast (i.e. the distance you measured when
it;s sheeted tight is called a 100% or a working jib. A sail that extends
half again, the distance you measured, beyond the mast when sheeted in tight
is called a 150%.

Matt


"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
jdmarchand wrote:

Stephen:

I would first get myself a good book on the theory and practise of

sailin
and learn a bit about sail performance and terminology. You seem to be a

bit
mixed up in your terms.

A 135% genoa (any good sailing theory book will explain how this is
measured) is generally the best all around compromise. If you generally

sail
in light air, a 150% might be better. If you routinely sail in heavy

wind, a
100-120% would be better.

David



Thanks, I'll get one of those books right away. In fact I have a friend
who has one. I'll need to borrow it if I want to beat him racing.

But I need to make this sail decision day after tomorrow, for the free
storm jib, and I thought someone might have a quick forumula for the
measurements a storm jib should be, or any jib/genoa if someone can.
That will be in the book? I can get it right away, I guess.

I'll know the height of my mast, the length of the boom, etc. I'll
investigate much further before buying any sails later.

Stephen




Paul L May 6th 04 03:54 PM

Headsail size?
 
You can get sail measurements for your boat at:
http://www.baconsails.com/database/boatspecdev.php

Paul
www.jcruiser.org
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
The Hunter 33' I'm getting has no headsails, maybe just a spinnaker. I
think I can talk this guy I'm buying the boat from into including a
headsail. I intend to buy used sails so I have the biggest possible
genoa (what size would that be, full leach obviously, foot back to
where?), a 100, and a storm jib. He has a bunch of random sails from
smaller boats, he says.

The 100 has to go all the way to the top, right? So I need to measure
the exact leach? Probably little chance of getting that from him? So I
was thinking I could get a storm jib from him. What size should it be
relative to my boat measurements. If someone has a Hunter 33' and can
tell me the exact sizes that would be fabulous.

If this is too much work to answer, is there an internet source that can
answer this?

Stephen




Glenn Ashmore May 6th 04 03:57 PM

Headsail size?
 
Not exactly. The "percentage" is LP (the distance perpendicular from
the luff to the clew) divided my J (The horozontal distance from the
tack to the front of the mast. Because LP is at an angle to J, a 100%
jib will not quite reach the mast.

Matt Koch wrote:
Stephen

In a nutshell, the percentages are arrived at as follows. Assume a sail
that "goes to the top of the mast".

Measue the horizontal distance from where the forestay attaches to the bow
to the mast.

A sail that extends exaclty to the mast (i.e. the distance you measured when
it;s sheeted tight is called a 100% or a working jib. A sail that extends
half again, the distance you measured, beyond the mast when sheeted in tight
is called a 150%.

Matt


"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...

jdmarchand wrote:


Stephen:

I would first get myself a good book on the theory and practise of


sailin

and learn a bit about sail performance and terminology. You seem to be a


bit

mixed up in your terms.

A 135% genoa (any good sailing theory book will explain how this is
measured) is generally the best all around compromise. If you generally


sail

in light air, a 150% might be better. If you routinely sail in heavy


wind, a

100-120% would be better.

David



Thanks, I'll get one of those books right away. In fact I have a friend
who has one. I'll need to borrow it if I want to beat him racing.

But I need to make this sail decision day after tomorrow, for the free
storm jib, and I thought someone might have a quick forumula for the
measurements a storm jib should be, or any jib/genoa if someone can.
That will be in the book? I can get it right away, I guess.

I'll know the height of my mast, the length of the boom, etc. I'll
investigate much further before buying any sails later.

Stephen





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Rodney Myrvaagnes May 7th 04 03:32 AM

Headsail size?
 
On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:05:01 -0400, "Matt Koch"
wrote:

In a nutshell, the percentages are arrived at as follows. Assume a sail
that "goes to the top of the mast".

Measue the horizontal distance from where the forestay attaches to the bow
to the mast.

A sail that extends exaclty to the mast (i.e. the distance you measured when
it;s sheeted tight is called a 100% or a working jib. A sail that extends
half again, the distance you measured, beyond the mast when sheeted in tight
is called a 150%.

Actually, the percent is of the perpendicular from the luff to the
clew. About the same thing for a decksweeper, but different for most
cruising sails.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


Ask not with whom the buck stops . . .


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