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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:08:14 -0400, in message
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Glenn Ashmore wrote:

This time I want to measure
creep under loads 10-15% below where they drag, how far they sail from
the drop point and get more accurate mesurements on how far they take to
set. A lot of that requires mesurements in inches.


You may want to re-evaluate how your measurements will be used. I
can't think of an anchoring situation where differences in past
performance data measured in inches would affect my decision.

As for providing a solid reference point, it seems you don't care
exactly where your reference is, just that it should stay where it's
put. Drop one of the anchors you aren't in the process of testing with
the fishing bobber attached, then make your reference point wherever
it happens to land.

Ryk

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I kinda like the trailer knobs and adjustable fishing bobbers. I have
accumulated several GPS units so getting back to the same general place
will not be a problem but these test have gotten a bit more complicated
than I first thought. last time we just duplicated the Practical Sailor
tests and got pretty much the same results. This time I want to measure
creep under loads 10-15% below where they drag, how far they sail from
the drop point and get more accurate mesurements on how far they take to
set. A lot of that requires mesurements in inches.

All this may seem a bit over the top but if I am selling these things I
want to know everything about them. Besides, I made a little profit on
the anchors last year and need to be able to show the tax man that 10
days in the BVI is a legitimate business expense. ;-)

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Glenn Ashmore" writes:


Anyone ever seen such a device or have a better idea?



IMHO, you can't get there from here with what you are considering.

Your friend will be a high speed, hand held GPS.

You won't get it for $100, but it will do the job.



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Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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"Glenn Ashmore" writes:

Anyone ever seen such a device or have a better idea?


IMHO, you can't get there from here with what you are considering.

Your friend will be a high speed, hand held GPS.

You won't get it for $100, but it will do the job.


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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:25:57 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
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Ever try to pack a concrete block? :-) I need something that will drop
straight and fast and most of all I can pack without adding much weight.
I am already carrying 110 pounds of anchors and need a little room for
a bathing suit and a toothbrush, :-)


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Hmmmm. You might get better luggage/volumetric efficiency with a
brick or a lead fishing sinker. You need some weight on the bottom
however to get it to stay put. Another possibility is to use a small
danforth type, set it firmly, and then shorten the scope to vertical
attached to a small float like a seat cushion.



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You might want to look into the SI-701WPBI from Columbia Research
Laboratories, Inc at:

http://www.columbiaresearchlab.com/

Look under Inclinometers. There is a PDF file available with the specs. It
might be what you are looking for.

HTH

Vic

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| On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:25:57 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
| wrote:
| Ever try to pack a concrete block? :-) I need something that will drop
| straight and fast and most of all I can pack without adding much weight.
| I am already carrying 110 pounds of anchors and need a little room for
| a bathing suit and a toothbrush, :-)
|
| ===========================================
|
| Hmmmm. You might get better luggage/volumetric efficiency with a
| brick or a lead fishing sinker. You need some weight on the bottom
| however to get it to stay put. Another possibility is to use a small
| danforth type, set it firmly, and then shorten the scope to vertical
| attached to a small float like a seat cushion.
|
|
|




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You might want to look into the SI-701WPBI from Columbia Research
Laboratories, Inc at:

http://www.columbiaresearchlab.com/

Look under Inclinometers. There is a PDF file available with the specs. It
might be what you are looking for.

HTH

Vic

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and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
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Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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| On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:25:57 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
| wrote:
| Ever try to pack a concrete block? :-) I need something that will drop
| straight and fast and most of all I can pack without adding much weight.
| I am already carrying 110 pounds of anchors and need a little room for
| a bathing suit and a toothbrush, :-)
|
| ===========================================
|
| Hmmmm. You might get better luggage/volumetric efficiency with a
| brick or a lead fishing sinker. You need some weight on the bottom
| however to get it to stay put. Another possibility is to use a small
| danforth type, set it firmly, and then shorten the scope to vertical
| attached to a small float like a seat cushion.
|
|
|


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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:25:57 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:
Ever try to pack a concrete block? :-) I need something that will drop
straight and fast and most of all I can pack without adding much weight.
I am already carrying 110 pounds of anchors and need a little room for
a bathing suit and a toothbrush, :-)


===========================================

Hmmmm. You might get better luggage/volumetric efficiency with a
brick or a lead fishing sinker. You need some weight on the bottom
however to get it to stay put. Another possibility is to use a small
danforth type, set it firmly, and then shorten the scope to vertical
attached to a small float like a seat cushion.



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Glenn Ashmore wrote:

Ever try to pack a concrete block? :-) I need something
that will drop straight and fast and most of all I can
pack without adding much weight. I am already carrying 110
pounds of anchors and need a little room for a bathing
suit and a toothbrush, :-)


If everyone does not think this idea is too much of a troll,
why do you not get one of those old iron sash weights, a
length of rope, and one of those foam swimming pool "noodles"
that are about 5 feet long, hollow, and made in neon colors?
I think they are about $2 at WalMart. None of this will take
up much space, and the sash weights vary from 3 to 10 pounds,
and have a conveneient eye cast into the end.

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Glenn Ashmore wrote:

Ever try to pack a concrete block? :-) I need something
that will drop straight and fast and most of all I can
pack without adding much weight. I am already carrying 110
pounds of anchors and need a little room for a bathing
suit and a toothbrush, :-)


If everyone does not think this idea is too much of a troll,
why do you not get one of those old iron sash weights, a
length of rope, and one of those foam swimming pool "noodles"
that are about 5 feet long, hollow, and made in neon colors?
I think they are about $2 at WalMart. None of this will take
up much space, and the sash weights vary from 3 to 10 pounds,
and have a conveneient eye cast into the end.

---
-
A. Topic-Mimara
Unique in the World!
---


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Ever try to pack a concrete block? :-) I need something that will drop
straight and fast and most of all I can pack without adding much weight.
I am already carrying 110 pounds of anchors and need a little room for
a bathing suit and a toothbrush, :-)

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:32:57 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:


Anyone ever seen such a device or have a better idea?



==================================================

This would be sort of expensive and hi-tech, but how about a fishing
bobber tied to a concrete block with monofilament line? Adjust the
length of the line so the bobber is just starting to be pulled under
to ensure accurate positioning.


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I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



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