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Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4
hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Tom" writes: My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. They have been banned with good reason. You evidently do care about pollution. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Tom" writes: My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. They have been banned with good reason. You evidently do care about pollution. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
If you buy one out of state and use it in CA don't you run the risk of being
fined? David S/V Cindino "Tom" wrote in message ... My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
If you buy one out of state and use it in CA don't you run the risk of being
fined? David S/V Cindino "Tom" wrote in message ... My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
One 2 hp outboard that I use occasionally in the ocean is pollution??
You building that big boat in Wilmington and releasing all the solvents from barrels and tons of resin and paint - now that's pollution. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:52:32 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: "Tom" writes: My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. They have been banned with good reason. You evidently do care about pollution. |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
One 2 hp outboard that I use occasionally in the ocean is pollution??
You building that big boat in Wilmington and releasing all the solvents from barrels and tons of resin and paint - now that's pollution. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:52:32 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: "Tom" writes: My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. They have been banned with good reason. You evidently do care about pollution. |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
That applies only to certain lakes and reserviors - besides I'm taking
it to MX to replace the one on my boat there. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:54:03 -0700, "D Wrate" dwrate@interbaundotcom wrote: If you buy one out of state and use it in CA don't you run the risk of being fined? David S/V Cindino "Tom" wrote in message .. . My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
That applies only to certain lakes and reserviors - besides I'm taking
it to MX to replace the one on my boat there. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:54:03 -0700, "D Wrate" dwrate@interbaundotcom wrote: If you buy one out of state and use it in CA don't you run the risk of being fined? David S/V Cindino "Tom" wrote in message .. . My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Tom" writes: One 2 hp outboard that I use occasionally in the ocean is pollution?? You building that big boat in Wilmington and releasing all the solvents from barrels and tons of resin and paint - now that's pollution. Yes, we are building a boat in SoCal. If you didn't have your head squarely where the moon doesn't shine, you would know that laminating epoxy contains no VOCs. SCAQMD made a visit ONCE. Looked at what was being used and left within 5 minutes. As far as "It's only little old me" argument, tell it to the judge. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Tom" writes: One 2 hp outboard that I use occasionally in the ocean is pollution?? You building that big boat in Wilmington and releasing all the solvents from barrels and tons of resin and paint - now that's pollution. Yes, we are building a boat in SoCal. If you didn't have your head squarely where the moon doesn't shine, you would know that laminating epoxy contains no VOCs. SCAQMD made a visit ONCE. Looked at what was being used and left within 5 minutes. As far as "It's only little old me" argument, tell it to the judge. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
So what did you clean up with - water? no MEK, no acetone?
So what did you paint it with - more bull****? On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:04:35 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: "Tom" writes: One 2 hp outboard that I use occasionally in the ocean is pollution?? You building that big boat in Wilmington and releasing all the solvents from barrels and tons of resin and paint - now that's pollution. Yes, we are building a boat in SoCal. If you didn't have your head squarely where the moon doesn't shine, you would know that laminating epoxy contains no VOCs. SCAQMD made a visit ONCE. Looked at what was being used and left within 5 minutes. As far as "It's only little old me" argument, tell it to the judge. |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
So what did you clean up with - water? no MEK, no acetone?
So what did you paint it with - more bull****? On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:04:35 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: "Tom" writes: One 2 hp outboard that I use occasionally in the ocean is pollution?? You building that big boat in Wilmington and releasing all the solvents from barrels and tons of resin and paint - now that's pollution. Yes, we are building a boat in SoCal. If you didn't have your head squarely where the moon doesn't shine, you would know that laminating epoxy contains no VOCs. SCAQMD made a visit ONCE. Looked at what was being used and left within 5 minutes. As far as "It's only little old me" argument, tell it to the judge. |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Tom" writes: So what did you clean up with - water? no MEK, no acetone? Soap & water for personal clean up. Don't waste time trying to clean tools such as mixing containers, paint rollers, brushes, etc Don't even have acetone or MEK in the boat yard. Once again, you have assumed the position. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Tom" writes: So what did you clean up with - water? no MEK, no acetone? Soap & water for personal clean up. Don't waste time trying to clean tools such as mixing containers, paint rollers, brushes, etc Don't even have acetone or MEK in the boat yard. Once again, you have assumed the position. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
(Tom) wrote in :
That applies only to certain lakes and reserviors - besides I'm taking it to MX to replace the one on my boat there. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:54:03 -0700, "D Wrate" dwrate@interbaundotcom wrote: If you buy one out of state and use it in CA don't you run the risk of being fined? David S/V Cindino "Tom" wrote in message . .. My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? To get back to your original question...there are still a few 2-strokes you can purchase (outside of CA of course). Tohatsu (same as Nissan and Mercury) still makes a 2.5 and 3.5 2-stroke. You can find more info at their website at www.tohatsu.com (or www.nissanmarine.com). Good luck. JB |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
In article , Tom says...
My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? Tom Johnson (formerly of OMC, now owned by Bombardier) still makes a 2 stroke 3.5HP engine. Probably available in the US. sdg |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
In article , Tom says...
My 4 hp Suzuki isn't worth fixing anymore. I want to buy a new 2-3-4 hp 2 stroke - but CA has banned new 2 strokes - only 4 stroke anymore. What's available in Oregon or Arizona? Tom Johnson (formerly of OMC, now owned by Bombardier) still makes a 2 stroke 3.5HP engine. Probably available in the US. sdg |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's availableoutside California
Maybe he doesn't know that you can do a better job of cleaning up
special/expensive tools and such with vinegar? Matt Colie Lew Hodgett wrote: "Tom" writes: So what did you clean up with - water? no MEK, no acetone? Soap & water for personal clean up. Don't waste time trying to clean tools such as mixing containers, paint rollers, brushes, etc Don't even have acetone or MEK in the boat yard. Once again, you have assumed the position. |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's availableoutside California
Maybe he doesn't know that you can do a better job of cleaning up
special/expensive tools and such with vinegar? Matt Colie Lew Hodgett wrote: "Tom" writes: So what did you clean up with - water? no MEK, no acetone? Soap & water for personal clean up. Don't waste time trying to clean tools such as mixing containers, paint rollers, brushes, etc Don't even have acetone or MEK in the boat yard. Once again, you have assumed the position. |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Matt Colie" writes: Maybe he doesn't know that you can do a better job of cleaning up special/expensive tools and such with vinegar? Just curious, what do you consider special/expensive tools for working with epoxy? -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Matt Colie" writes: Maybe he doesn't know that you can do a better job of cleaning up special/expensive tools and such with vinegar? Just curious, what do you consider special/expensive tools for working with epoxy? -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's availableoutside California
Lew,
There are really only two things that fit the catagory. That would be rollers and fillet shapers. As most of my rollers that get wet - the straight kind are used for bag jobs only - are the radius kind, they are relatively expensive at 8-10$us. I can clean them in a couple of minutes. The fillet shapers that I use most, I cut to radius from 1/8UHMW sheet then either radius or thin the edge by hand for the specific application. The harder edge for structural fillets of highly filled mix and the more flexible for finish fillets with soft filler. As both of these take 10-15 miutes to make (finish 4 corners of a 4 or 6 inch square), and clean almost instantly. I figure it is worth doing - partiularly as the soft fill is often too flexible to come off the radius tool easily. Matt Lew Hodgett wrote: "Matt Colie" writes: Maybe he doesn't know that you can do a better job of cleaning up special/expensive tools and such with vinegar? Just curious, what do you consider special/expensive tools for working with epoxy? |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's availableoutside California
Lew,
There are really only two things that fit the catagory. That would be rollers and fillet shapers. As most of my rollers that get wet - the straight kind are used for bag jobs only - are the radius kind, they are relatively expensive at 8-10$us. I can clean them in a couple of minutes. The fillet shapers that I use most, I cut to radius from 1/8UHMW sheet then either radius or thin the edge by hand for the specific application. The harder edge for structural fillets of highly filled mix and the more flexible for finish fillets with soft filler. As both of these take 10-15 miutes to make (finish 4 corners of a 4 or 6 inch square), and clean almost instantly. I figure it is worth doing - partiularly as the soft fill is often too flexible to come off the radius tool easily. Matt Lew Hodgett wrote: "Matt Colie" writes: Maybe he doesn't know that you can do a better job of cleaning up special/expensive tools and such with vinegar? Just curious, what do you consider special/expensive tools for working with epoxy? |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Matt Colie" writes: Lew, There are really only two things that fit the catagory. That would be rollers and fillet shapers. snip Understand. Personally, have not found a use for rollers, am able to remove excess resin with just a squeegee which is strictly a throw away item. Haven't had to be very fussy about fillets yet, paint mixing sticks seem to get the job done. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
Need a new 2-4 hp outboard - must be 2 stroke - what's available outside California
"Matt Colie" writes: Lew, There are really only two things that fit the catagory. That would be rollers and fillet shapers. snip Understand. Personally, have not found a use for rollers, am able to remove excess resin with just a squeegee which is strictly a throw away item. Haven't had to be very fussy about fillets yet, paint mixing sticks seem to get the job done. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
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