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Vic Smith July 26th 08 10:36 PM

Fender Mangement
 
Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic

Capt. JG July 27th 08 04:52 AM

Fender Mangement
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic



I wouldn't laugh, and I suppose they would give some flexibility, but I
would never use them, especially on lifelines or stanchions. Why not just
use a cleat hitch on a cleat?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




cavelamb himself[_4_] July 27th 08 05:02 AM

Fender Mangement
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic




I wouldn't laugh, and I suppose they would give some flexibility, but I
would never use them, especially on lifelines or stanchions. Why not just
use a cleat hitch on a cleat?



They are for the Knot-ically challenged...

John H.[_5_] July 27th 08 12:20 PM

Fender Mangement
 
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic


I don't like being laughed at. Clove hitches rule.

KLC Lewis July 27th 08 02:13 PM

Fender Mangement
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic


I don't like being laughed at. Clove hitches rule.


I prefer a cow hitch plus a slippery half-hitch around the standing part,
but to each their own.



Capt. JG July 27th 08 06:09 PM

Fender Mangement
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic


I don't like being laughed at. Clove hitches rule.



I don't typically use clove hitches for fender lines. Any up/down motion
with a fender against a dock will loosen them. A cow hitch might be better,
but it could still come undone fairly easily, as KLC says (and the 1/2 hitch
would add security). Why not use just an RT with two half-hitches? More
secure, tightens under load?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




John H.[_5_] July 27th 08 07:02 PM

Fender Mangement
 
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:09:03 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic


I don't like being laughed at. Clove hitches rule.



I don't typically use clove hitches for fender lines. Any up/down motion
with a fender against a dock will loosen them. A cow hitch might be better,
but it could still come undone fairly easily, as KLC says (and the 1/2 hitch
would add security). Why not use just an RT with two half-hitches? More
secure, tightens under load?


Add a half hitch or two.

Capt. JG July 27th 08 07:55 PM

Fender Mangement
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:09:03 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?

http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic

I don't like being laughed at. Clove hitches rule.



I don't typically use clove hitches for fender lines. Any up/down motion
with a fender against a dock will loosen them. A cow hitch might be
better,
but it could still come undone fairly easily, as KLC says (and the 1/2
hitch
would add security). Why not use just an RT with two half-hitches? More
secure, tightens under load?


Add a half hitch or two.



Yep... of course then I'm not sure the point of the clove hitch part. A
round turn is easier to untie in a hurry (though barely).


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




[email protected] July 27th 08 09:32 PM

Fender Mangement
 
On Jul 27, 2:55 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...



On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:09:03 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:


Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?


http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic


I don't like being laughed at. Clove hitches rule.


I don't typically use clove hitches for fender lines. Any up/down motion
with a fender against a dock will loosen them. A cow hitch might be
better,
but it could still come undone fairly easily, as KLC says (and the 1/2
hitch
would add security). Why not use just an RT with two half-hitches? More
secure, tightens under load?


Add a half hitch or two.


Yep... of course then I'm not sure the point of the clove hitch part. A
round turn is easier to untie in a hurry (though barely).

--
"j" ganz


Loop over the lifeline or rail then tie a prusik back onto the line.
Cost: nearly zero.

Capt. JG July 28th 08 05:21 AM

Fender Mangement
 
wrote in message
...
On Jul 27, 2:55 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...



On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:09:03 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:


Anybody using these?
Anybody care to laugh at the very idea of them?


http://www.fendergrip.com/fg.html


--Vic


I don't like being laughed at. Clove hitches rule.


I don't typically use clove hitches for fender lines. Any up/down
motion
with a fender against a dock will loosen them. A cow hitch might be
better,
but it could still come undone fairly easily, as KLC says (and the 1/2
hitch
would add security). Why not use just an RT with two half-hitches? More
secure, tightens under load?


Add a half hitch or two.


Yep... of course then I'm not sure the point of the clove hitch part. A
round turn is easier to untie in a hurry (though barely).

--
"j" ganz


Loop over the lifeline or rail then tie a prusik back onto the line.
Cost: nearly zero.



I think it's a very bad idea to put a fender line over a lifeline or rail.
Neither is designed for the potential loads. Cost: new lifelines or rails.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





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