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Chuck July 6th 08 05:13 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so the
rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the hull/bilge
area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not using my
waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle any small
amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull. What do ya
think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


Gregory Hall July 6th 08 05:37 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 

"Chuck" wrote in message
news:Ca6ck.186773$TT4.51356@attbi_s22...
It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so
the rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the
hull/bilge area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not
using my waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle
any small amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull.
What do ya think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


I've got a better idea. Take a half inch drill bit and drill about a hundred
holes in the bottom of the hull. Thank you.

PWCs should be banned.

--
Gregory Hall



Gordon July 6th 08 06:45 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
Chuck wrote:
It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so
the rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the
hull/bilge area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not
using my waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can
handle any small amount of water that drains from the footwells into the
hull. What do ya think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


Back when I was cruzin in my yellow and mauve waverunner, I would
yada yada yada
Wilbur

Roger Long July 6th 08 07:15 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
For a PWC, the best solution I can think of is to drill the hole in the
footwell you are contemplating and drill another matching hole in the hull
bottom directly under it.

--
Roger Long




Larry July 6th 08 07:28 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
"Chuck" wrote in news:Ca6ck.186773$TT4.51356@attbi_s22:

What do ya
think???


Not a good idea at all........

WHEN, not if, a PWC flips over, it rides on a trapped bubble of air caused
by the hull that is quite well sealed around its bottom. Notice how all
the openings in the PWC hull are high up when it's sitting upright.

When it flips over, it floats on this bubble with very little air leakage
out to sink it until you show up, laughing and panting, to flip it back
over. When you do flip it back over, WITH THE CARBS GOING OVER THE TOP
PLEASE, there is very little water now trapped in the hull because of this
hydraulic locked air bubble that kept the water out of the hull upside
down.....and kept the water out of the engine upside down, too!

Now YOU come along and want to drill some VENT HOLES to let the TRAPPED AIR
BUBBLE escape allowing water to rush into the upside down hull to flood the
amazingly-expensive-to-fix engine and maybe even sink the boat!

Not a good idea.......AT ALL.......


Brian Whatcott July 6th 08 07:49 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:13:22 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:

It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so the
rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the hull/bilge
area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not using my
waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle any small
amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull. What do ya
think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


If there is some way to drill a drain hole slanting downwards through
thewell and the hull, into which you could fit a well fixed tube,
that would be a better approach

Brian W

Larry July 6th 08 08:14 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
"Roger Long" wrote in
:

For a PWC, the best solution I can think of is to drill the hole in
the footwell you are contemplating and drill another matching hole in
the hull bottom directly under it.

--
Roger Long




Now, now.....let's be nice.....

Stop throwing sand in the sandbox or the teacher will be sending you into
the principal's office.


Chuck July 6th 08 08:57 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Chuck" wrote in news:Ca6ck.186773$TT4.51356@attbi_s22:

What do ya
think???


Not a good idea at all........

WHEN, not if, a PWC flips over, it rides on a trapped bubble of air caused
by the hull that is quite well sealed around its bottom. Notice how all
the openings in the PWC hull are high up when it's sitting upright.

When it flips over, it floats on this bubble with very little air leakage
out to sink it until you show up, laughing and panting, to flip it back
over. When you do flip it back over, WITH THE CARBS GOING OVER THE TOP
PLEASE, there is very little water now trapped in the hull because of this
hydraulic locked air bubble that kept the water out of the hull upside
down.....and kept the water out of the engine upside down, too!

Now YOU come along and want to drill some VENT HOLES to let the TRAPPED
AIR
BUBBLE escape allowing water to rush into the upside down hull to flood
the
amazingly-expensive-to-fix engine and maybe even sink the boat!

Not a good idea.......AT ALL.......


Thanks Larry, I understand where you are coming from. I had intended to
plug the holes with flush plugs like those pictured here
http://www.moellermarine.com/afterma...ll/acessories/ or
here http://www.aquacraftmodels.com/acces...aqub9506-2.jpg
I will wait to see a few more responses and will still probably wait. By
then the water I am so concerned about may evaporate!


TomC[_2_] July 6th 08 10:07 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
Uh, maybe a cover to keep the rain out?

Larry July 7th 08 01:12 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
"Chuck" wrote in
news:Ps9ck.186996$TT4.161236@attbi_s22:

Thanks Larry, I understand where you are coming from. I had intended
to plug the holes with flush plugs like those pictured here
http://www.moellermarine.com/afterma...ll/acessories/
or here http://www.aquacraftmodels.com/acces...aqub9506-2.jpg
I will wait to see a few more responses and will still probably wait.
By then the water I am so concerned about may evaporate!




Why not just tilt the PWC trailer up so the ride plate is sitting on the
ground. Prop it up there if you have to. There's no oil in the engine
that's gonna run out tilted with the bow up like that. If you tilt it up,
the footwells will drain out the back like they're supposed to....no holes
necessary.


[email protected] July 7th 08 01:19 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On Jul 6, 12:13*pm, "Chuck" wrote:
It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so the
rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the hull/bilge
area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not using my
waverunner. *When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle any small
amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull. *What do ya
think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


No problem man, it's a boat right? Even if it's a small one;)
Welcome to wrecked boats.. We don't have a lot of spam, but we do have
our snarks.. and I can be one of them... So strap on your flame proof
undies, and post away;)

Scotty from SmallBoats.com
RowdyMouseRacing.com
Trip-Reports.com Where did you go today?

HK July 7th 08 01:21 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
wrote:
On Jul 6, 12:13 pm, "Chuck" wrote:
It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so the
rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the hull/bilge
area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not using my
waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle any small
amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull. What do ya
think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


No problem man, it's a boat right? Even if it's a small one;)
Welcome to wrecked boats.. We don't have a lot of spam, but we do have
our snarks.. and I can be one of them... So strap on your flame proof
undies, and post away;)

Scotty from SmallBoats.com
RowdyMouseRacing.com
Trip-Reports.com Where did you go today?




Wonderful, on-topic commentary, as usual, from one of rec.boats.goats.

Chuck July 7th 08 02:40 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Jul 6, 12:13 pm, "Chuck" wrote:
It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so
the
rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the
hull/bilge
area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not using my
waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle any
small
amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull. What do
ya
think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


No problem man, it's a boat right? Even if it's a small one;)
Welcome to wrecked boats.. We don't have a lot of spam, but we do have
our snarks.. and I can be one of them... So strap on your flame proof
undies, and post away;)

Scotty from SmallBoats.com
RowdyMouseRacing.com
Trip-Reports.com Where did you go today?




Wonderful, on-topic commentary, as usual, from one of rec.boats.goats.


Thanks Scotty. I have a boat and two Yamaha PWC's. That's a better welcome
than some of the other boaters gave me.


[email protected] July 7th 08 06:13 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On Jul 6, 2:28*pm, Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote innews:Ca6ck.186773$TT4.51356@attbi_s22:

What do ya
think???


Not a good idea at all........

WHEN, not if, a PWC flips over, it rides on a trapped bubble of air caused
by the hull that is quite well sealed around its bottom. *Notice how all
the openings in the PWC hull are high up when it's sitting upright.

When it flips over, it floats on this bubble with very little air leakage
out to sink it until you show up, laughing and panting, to flip it back
hydraulic locked air bubble that kept the water out of the hull upside
down.....and kept the water out of the engine upside down, too!

Now YOU come along and want to drill some VENT HOLES to let the TRAPPED AIR
BUBBLE escape allowing water to rush into the upside down hull to flood the
amazingly-expensive-to-fix engine and maybe even sink the boat!

Not a good idea.......AT ALL.......


- over. When you do flip it back over, WITH THE CARBS GOING OVER THE
TOP
- PLEASE, there is very little water now trapped in the hull because
of this

Mine has a label on the bottom telling the rider which way to
flip :-) Yes, drilling holes bad idea.

Larry July 7th 08 06:16 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
wrote in news:340fafa0-dcf8-4c1e-b1db-7444bf5e8dd0@
34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

Mine has a label on the bottom telling the rider which way to
flip :-) Yes, drilling holes bad idea.


I had a few PWC. I got a sticker once that said:

IF YOU CAN READ THIS, PLEASE FLIP ME OVER AND CALL THE CORONER!


[email protected] July 7th 08 06:38 PM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On Jul 7, 1:13*pm, wrote:
On Jul 6, 2:28*pm, Larry wrote:





"Chuck" wrote innews:Ca6ck.186773$TT4.51356@attbi_s22:


What do ya
think???


Not a good idea at all........


WHEN, not if, a PWC flips over, it rides on a trapped bubble of air caused
by the hull that is quite well sealed around its bottom. *Notice how all
the openings in the PWC hull are high up when it's sitting upright.


When it flips over, it floats on this bubble with very little air leakage
out to sink it until you show up, laughing and panting, to flip it back
hydraulic locked air bubble that kept the water out of the hull upside
down.....and kept the water out of the engine upside down, too!


Now YOU come along and want to drill some VENT HOLES to let the TRAPPED AIR
BUBBLE escape allowing water to rush into the upside down hull to flood the
amazingly-expensive-to-fix engine and maybe even sink the boat!


Not a good idea.......AT ALL.......


- over. *When you do flip it back over, WITH THE CARBS GOING OVER THE
TOP
- PLEASE, there is very little water now trapped in the hull because
of this

Mine has a label on the bottom telling the rider which way to
flip :-) *Yes, drilling holes bad idea.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I agree completely. Of course I should note that this is one of my two
pet peeves.. Always use the right tool for the job (or don't do it)
and never modify a tried and true boat design. They both kinda' got
together really. If you have to modify your boat, you probably bought
the wrong tool for your needs...;)

Chuck July 8th 08 03:13 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 

wrote in message
...
On Jul 6, 12:13 pm, "Chuck" wrote:
It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so
the
rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the
hull/bilge
area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not using my
waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle any small
amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull. What do ya
think???

ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


No problem man, it's a boat right? Even if it's a small one;)
Welcome to wrecked boats.. We don't have a lot of spam, but we do have
our snarks.. and I can be one of them... So strap on your flame proof
undies, and post away;)

OK... after reading all of the comments, I WILL NOT be drilling any holes,
big or small in the hull of my small "boat." I have covers which I will
use... and will figure out what to do with the small bit of water that
penetrates anyways.

Chuck


Jere Lull July 8th 08 06:48 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On 2008-07-06 21:40:17 -0400, "Chuck" said:

I have a boat and two Yamaha PWC's.


I couldn't help but snicker that even you don't call them boats ;-)

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Jere Lull July 8th 08 06:48 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On 2008-07-07 22:13:09 -0400, "Chuck" said:

OK... after reading all of the comments, I WILL NOT be drilling any
holes, big or small in the hull of my small "boat." I have covers
which I will use... and will figure out what to do with the small bit
of water that penetrates anyways.


That's what sponges are for.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


[email protected] July 9th 08 03:22 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On Jul 8, 1:48*am, Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-07-07 22:13:09 -0400, "Chuck" said:

OK... after reading all of the comments, I WILL NOT be drilling any
holes, big or small in the hull of my small "boat." *I have covers
which I will use... and will figure out what to do with the small bit
of water that penetrates anyways.


That's what sponges are for.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages:http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips:http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Great idea. If I were him I would get a sponge on a short tether I
could hook on the vessel somewhere easy to reach..

[email protected] July 9th 08 03:47 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
On Jul 7, 10:13*pm, "Chuck" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jul 6, 12:13 pm, "Chuck" wrote:

It rains a lot here and I am thinking of drilling an 1/8" drain hole so
the
rain water drains from the topside of the footwells down into the
hull/bilge
area and then out the back of the drain plugs when I am not using my
waverunner. When I am in the water, running the bilge can handle any small
amount of water that drains from the footwells into the hull. What do ya
think???


ps: Sorry to ask here but the PWC newsgroup is all spam now.


No problem man, it's a boat right? * Even if it's a small one;)
Welcome to wrecked boats.. We don't have a lot of spam, but we do have
our snarks.. and I can be one of them... So strap on your flame proof
undies, and post away;)

OK... after reading all of the comments, I WILL NOT be drilling any holes,
big or small in the hull of my small "boat."


Good Call

*I have covers which I will
use... and will figure out what to do with the small bit of water that
penetrates anyways.


Suck it upChuck;)
Wow, look at that, Scotty did a double en.... oh forget it, I couldn't
spell it if I tried..


Chuck


Welcome to wrecked boats;)


Larry July 9th 08 03:58 AM

Advice needed - Drilling a small hole in my PWC footwells?
 
wrote in news:9b48ed16-f86b-4015-9bb8-
:

Great idea. If I were him I would get a sponge on a short tether I
could hook on the vessel somewhere easy to reach..



I love cool ideas for PWC and used to try out all kinds of crazy stuff.

One great idea I had was to disconnect that stupid visibility sprayer on
the big Yamaha and convert it to a cooling shower because it's hot in
SC.

My shower head was a little plastic "sink shower" head you'd push over
the faucet to wash your hair, but not the round one. The hose came out
the side of this one and it was much smaller. A long piece of really
flexible latex surgical hose that would lay in the footwells without
coiling up was pushed over the original sprayer supply outlet on the jet
pump, directly. The shower ran all the time the engine was running
pumping cooling water into a footwell.

Cruising along, you get dried out from the constant wind going by then
get hotter from lack of evap cooling. Reach down in the footwell and
retrieve the "cockpit shower head" and turn it on your hair or spray it
into your PFD. It washes away the stinky sweat and that cold lake water
coming out of it is just like stepping into an air conditioned store
from out in the hot parking lot!

Later, after the "sea trials" and "testing phase", I rerouted the hose
inside the hull with a nice fitting through the hull under the seat so
the hose would drop into the hull like the portable shower hose in your
kitchen sink. A better shower head with a slide valve from an RV let me
quickly shut off/turn on the shower when appropriate, and made great
conversation when someone just couldn't help but ask what that
was...."Deck shower for the bikini swimmers", I'd tell them flatly.
"Every yacht should have a deck shower." Then, of course, you'd have to
show them how it worked....(c; It worked even at idle at the dock if
you got hot waiting....(c;

Waste Marine also has a neat little 12V fresh water pump for small boats
I installed for drinking water. A 3 gallon tank was tywrapped to the
support for the bow storage compartment away from the hot engine. Fill
the tank with crushed ice on the way to the ramp. Some styrofoam panels
were glued to it to make the ice still melt, but last all day. The cap
of this tank, made to supply water to a tent trailer camper sink, had a
suction hose inside the tank to the bottom and a fitting to connect the
suction hose of the pump to. The combo 12V pump and little silver
faucet with a push button to run the pump was installed above the
instrument panel to keep me from hitting it by accident. Need a cool
drink? Stop the ski almost anywhere or beach it bow in making the
kitchen faucet handy to the beach....press the button....COLD potable
water! Want more than water? Fill the tank with Kool Aid and crushed
ice! There's no reason to go thirsty on a PWC....too easy!

Please don't pee on the seat....sit sideways! Thanks!

Every PWC needs self-storing bungee cord spring lines.....another
invention with a little white PVC. No rope to suck into the pump!
Grab the hook, pull bungee out of hole in hull and hook to dock, even if
it doesn't have a cleat! Built in snubber for the waves. Release and
bungee retracts into hole in hull with only the hook in reach...DID I
MENTION NO ROPE WOUND UP AROUND THE DAMNED PROP?!










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