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De Clarke March 28th 04 06:51 AM

Gimbal for Single Burner Cooker
 

I was on someone else's boat and saw a nice little pressurised kero
single-burner cooker

http://www.ucolick.org/~de/boat/Theo...ow/Photo2.html

(see left side of image) which sure looks like a Petromax or a
Petromax knockoff. it was mounted in a cardanic bracket as you
see here -- a hefty affair that looked like aluminium. the bracket
might have been home made (by a skilled metal worker) but my guess
is that it was professionally manufactured to go with the stove.

it was a strong mechanism, adequate to bear the weight of the
filled stove plus a small saucepan. very handy. I'd like to
have one of those.

has anyone ever seen a bracket like this? can you identify the
manufacturer? is this the "cardanic bracket" referred to in some
old (in German) Petromax/Geniol literature? I know where I can
get Petromax lamps and stoves, but not where I can find this type
of bracket. have done a lot of googling and the range of prefab
gimbals for marine applications is pretty narrow (and pretty
chintzy, most being only half-cardanic and made of flimsy metal).

comments, stories, reminiscences and clues welcome!

de

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Matt Colie March 28th 04 02:38 PM

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De,
What you have there is a "Sea Swing" by brand, and I am strugging to
remember the actual manufacturer (I half think it was either
Willcox-Crittenden or the foundry that did some alluminum for them).

They have ben out of production for several decades. It was designed to
use canned gellied alchohol as a fuel, but they and others built the
add-on liquid fuel burner that this one has.

Hate to tell you, but one went by on ebay recently. I will bet a google
search turns up at least one.

Good luck guy

Matt Colie A.Sloop "Bonne Ide'e"
Lifelong Watermand. Licnsed Mariner and Perpetual Sailor


De Clarke wrote:

I was on someone else's boat and saw a nice little pressurised kero
single-burner cooker

http://www.ucolick.org/~de/boat/Theo...ow/Photo2.html

(see left side of image) which sure looks like a Petromax or a
Petromax knockoff. it was mounted in a cardanic bracket as you
see here -- a hefty affair that looked like aluminium. the bracket
might have been home made (by a skilled metal worker) but my guess
is that it was professionally manufactured to go with the stove.

it was a strong mechanism, adequate to bear the weight of the
filled stove plus a small saucepan. very handy. I'd like to
have one of those.

has anyone ever seen a bracket like this? can you identify the
manufacturer? is this the "cardanic bracket" referred to in some
old (in German) Petromax/Geniol literature? I know where I can
get Petromax lamps and stoves, but not where I can find this type
of bracket. have done a lot of googling and the range of prefab
gimbals for marine applications is pretty narrow (and pretty
chintzy, most being only half-cardanic and made of flimsy metal).

comments, stories, reminiscences and clues welcome!

de



Armond Perretta March 28th 04 03:39 PM

Gimbal for Single Burner Cooker
 
Matt Colie wrote:

What you have there is a "Sea Swing" by brand, and I am strugging to
remember the actual manufacturer (I half think it was either
Willcox-Crittenden or the foundry that did some alluminum for them).

They have ben out of production for several decades. It was
designed to use canned gellied alchohol as a fuel, but they and
others built the add-on liquid fuel burner that this one has.


A similar idea was the Forespar "Swing Stove" of a while back. It used
those blue butane "Camping Gaz" fuel containers that were, I believe, of
French manufacture. Lighter than the Sea Swing, and probably cheaper as
well. However it too has been out of production for some time.

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JAXAshby March 28th 04 04:01 PM

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Force 10 makes them.

http://www.defender.com/cgi-bin/Web_...ords=stove&fra
mes=yes&store=yes

A similar idea was the Forespar "Swing Stove" of a while back. It used
those blue butane "Camping Gaz" fuel containers that were, I believe, of
French manufacture. Lighter than the Sea Swing, and probably cheaper as
well. However it too has been out of production for some time.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/












Steve March 28th 04 04:19 PM

Gimbal for Single Burner Cooker
 
The Force 10, SeaCook is the model I have for summer use, when I don't want
to use the diesel stove.

Works great, but I'm a bit apprehensive about having those small cylinders
in the cabin all the time.. I take the cylinder off and store it in the
cockpit when I'm not using the stove. I also installed a gas/propane
detector. (see how propane complicates life).

I also refill those small cylinders from my tank on the BBQ. I leave that
cylinder on the rail and only remove it to fill these small cylinders.

All of that said, I really love my SeaCook and I use it more than my diesel
Dickensen (sp?).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



De Clarke March 29th 04 06:28 AM

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Steve wrote:
The Force 10, SeaCook is the model I have for summer use, when I don't want
to use the diesel stove.


yes I have seen those, but I don't like the bottled gas, for all the
usual reasons :-)

the Petromax line of stoves run on darn near anything -- you can even
swap burners and run them on alcohol if petro fuel is unavailable.

All of that said, I really love my SeaCook and I use it more than my diesel
Dickensen (sp?).


the Dickinson [I think] stoves are very nice in cold weather, nice dry
warmth for the whole cabin. in warmer climates I can't imagine using
one. sushi, bread and butter, and salad only? grin

de

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JAXAshby March 29th 04 12:51 PM

Gimbal for Single Burner Cooker
 
You can usually find old SeaSwing stoves in consignment shops. I believe
Bacons has some. Probably most of the others. Make certain you get the
mounting bracket.

SeaSwing stoves will run on Sterno,but reportedly run much better if you have
the Sterno chimney. The stove will take a Primus burner, either alcohol or
kero.

I found a SeaSwing brand new in an antique store.

nospam March 30th 04 03:51 AM

Gimbal for Single Burner Cooker
 
On 27 Mar 2004 21:51:15 -0800, De Clarke
wrote:


I bought a "Sea Cook" new about ten years ago. At the time I had a
three-burner elec stove which required me to fire up my genset each
time I wanted a cup of tea/coffee. What a nuisance that used to be!
So, I was absolutely delighted when I acquired the SeaCook, mounted
its gimbal on a bulkhead just behind my elec. stove, kept a kettle
ready and in minutes had boiling water. I've since replaced the elec.
stove with a Galley Maid three-burner propane (with all the safety
devices and then some). I am really pleased with the Galley Maid but
I still find myself preferring the Sea Cook when only one burner is
required. I store spare gas cylinders (it's takes both the long type
used in propane blow torches or the stubbier type) in an outside,
vented lazarette as these cylinders do occasionally leak and we all
know that leaking propane heads right for the lowest point (bilges)
where it lurks awaiting a tiny spark to ruin your day when you are a
few hundred miles off shore.

Someone here spoke of the wonders of alcohol. Definitely not for me
as I lost count of the fires I extinguished while using an alcohol
galley range on another boat years ago. I think they are a much
greater hazard than propane. Just my opinion, though. I'm not trying
to convert anyone.


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