[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

Hi all,

I am perusing the "Greek waters pilot" by Rod Heikell in
preparation for a possible cruise in the Aegean. The maps of
the harbors' entrances show a Green buoy on starboard and Red
buoy to port.

Is "Green Right Returning" the Med-equivalent of "Red Right
Returning" on this side of the pond?

E-references for navigational rules in the Med anybody?

Thanks
Roberto

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

BIANCO ROBERTO wrote:
I am perusing the "Greek waters pilot" by Rod Heikell in
preparation for a possible cruise in the Aegean. The maps of
the harbors' entrances show a Green buoy on starboard and Red
buoy to port.

Is "Green Right Returning" the Med-equivalent of "Red Right
Returning" on this side of the pond?

E-references for navigational rules in the Med anybody?

That's exactly right. Most of the rest of the world doesn't use "Red
Right Returning."

Do a google search on the IALA "A" and IALA "B" bouyage systems.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

Most likely cardinal buoys.

We still use lateral buoys in most of the US Coastal waters.

It's sort of like the English vs. Metric systems situation. :-)

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

On 18 Mar 2004 23:19:14 GMT, (BIANCO ROBERTO)
wrote:

Hi all,

I am perusing the "Greek waters pilot" by Rod Heikell in
preparation for a possible cruise in the Aegean. The maps of
the harbors' entrances show a Green buoy on starboard and Red
buoy to port.

Is "Green Right Returning" the Med-equivalent of "Red Right
Returning" on this side of the pond?

Most of the world outside North and South America "return to sea",
while we in the Americas "return to harbour".


E-references for navigational rules in the Med anybody?

Thanks
Roberto

Look for information on the IALA (International Association of
Lighthouse Authorities) Area A and Area B buoyage systems. (Their
motto: If one international standard is good, two must be better! :-)
)


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[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

USA didn't want to join the rest of the world in a single unified
buoyage system, so a compromise unified buoyage system was
devised which wasn't unified, but was called unified. So in all
the world except the Americas, the lateral system is green to
starboard entering harbour. In the Americas, of course . . .

I guess the states couldn't afford to change their system, so
hoped the rest of the world would change theirs.

Bit like the Japanese and British road systems, driving on the
left. Except we're islands, so it's clear when there's a change,
and the investment to change (as Sweden did) is enormous compared
to the investment of changing a buoyage system.

PS, if you want info on the Greek islands, do email me direct.
I've lived, worked and cruised there for a long time.

jim(dot)baerselman(at)ntlworld(dot)com

Yacht Rapaz, sadly for sale to pay for my lovely Greek house.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.bae...cification.htm


BIANCO ROBERTO wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I am perusing the "Greek waters pilot" by Rod Heikell in
preparation for a possible cruise in the Aegean. The maps of
the harbors' entrances show a Green buoy on starboard and Red
buoy to port.

Is "Green Right Returning" the Med-equivalent of "Red Right
Returning" on this side of the pond?

E-references for navigational rules in the Med anybody?

Thanks
Roberto

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

Gould 0738 wrote:
Most likely cardinal buoys.

We still use lateral buoys in most of the US Coastal waters.

It's sort of like the English vs. Metric systems situation. :-)
Nothing to do with cardinal buoys. As has been said, there are two
systems of lateral buoyage; the American system and the rest of the
world. Americans straying out of America need to adjust their world view.

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

Sounds like they've got it right!

--


Keith
__
Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when
you make it again.
"Peter Bennett" wrote in message

Most of the world outside North and South America "return to sea",
while we in the Americas "return to harbour".

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

Nay, we need to kick ass and get the rest of the world to square away.

"Steve (another one)" wrote

Americans straying out of America need to adjust their world view.

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:42:04 -0000, "JimB"
wrote:

So in all
the world except the Americas, the lateral system is green to
starboard entering harbour. In the Americas, of course . . .

Not just the Americas...Japan, Korea and the Philippines use the IALA
"B" system. So does Tonga and I'm sure other places.

There's a map of sorts at

http://www.iala-aism.org/mainsite/pa...ish/p4/p4b.htm link to
page 8

[q] "Red Right Returning" not valid in the Med ?!?
 

BIANCO ROBERTO wrote:

Hi all,

I am perusing the "Greek waters pilot" by Rod Heikell in
preparation for a possible cruise in the Aegean. The maps of
the harbors' entrances show a Green buoy on starboard and Red
buoy to port.

Is "Green Right Returning" the Med-equivalent of "Red Right
Returning" on this side of the pond?

E-references for navigational rules in the Med anybody?

Thanks
Roberto


This is news to me, I am astonished.

Exerything is relative. Left, right, coming, going, here, there.

Here, when you leave harbour, you are going to see red bouys left
behind.

There, leaving a life on the high sea, you see red bouys left
behind.

Here, returning from the sea, red on your right is a homey sight.

May be that should be a homey site?

There, when you talk about homeys, they look at you strange.

When you look at the map, to determine left from right, you must
presume a direction of travel. In or out, looking inward or outward,
to or from the sea, coming or going, to or from what to where, etc,
etc, so to speak.

Of course, standing on your head reverses all the rules. So it seems
that going 'there' does too?

There have been instances where pictures, maps, etc have been
inadverdently flipped when printed, reversing the appearance of left
and right.

Pictures get flipped here too, but flipping means different things
here and there, too.

If you are looking at a map through a mirror, everything is where it
shouldn't be.

I know it's a stretch, but how do they do it in Japan, where they
too drive on the other tack, or do Wongs ailing do it right there too?

Alice in looking glass
can't find
pretty ass,
but an ugly donkey.

Two Wongs make a rite?

Pick one from column a, one from column b.

Ain't it a grand old world? Adventure is everywhere.

Terry K