Why sail?
 

For those who haven't read it before and for those who didn't heed it,
here are Sterling Hayden's famous lines about the cost of sailing

" What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the
cancerous discipline of "security." And in the worship of security we
fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it
our lives are gone.

What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat
and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working activity
that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the material
sense. And we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic system
until we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments, mortgages,
preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention from the
sheer idiocy of the charade.

The years thunder by. The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked
in dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it the tomb is sealed.

Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy
of purse or bankruptcy of life?"

G

Why sail?
 

"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
For those who haven't read it before and for those who didn't heed it,
here are Sterling Hayden's famous lines about the cost of sailing

" What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the
cancerous discipline of "security." And in the worship of security we
fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it our
lives are gone.

What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat
and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working activity
that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the material
sense. And we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic system until
we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments, mortgages,
preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention from the sheer
idiocy of the charade.

The years thunder by. The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in
dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it the tomb is sealed.

Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy of
purse or bankruptcy of life?"

G


Ah, but a hardworking, disciplined and intelligent man can have the best of
both worlds.

In my case, for example, I immersed myself in the material world for a long
enough time that I accumulated wealth beyond your wildest imagination. I had
everything I desired - wine, women, song, fast cars and faster motorcycles,
airplanes, a house by the sea and a house in the mountains, the best of
intelligent and stimulating friends - the works. But, that all got old!
It's too burdensome after a while. Like running a business demand all your
time.

So I sold it all, liquidated, consolidated. Cashed out and invested my
wealth offshore. Bought two boats - a Swan 68 for racing and an Allied
Seawind 32 for living aboard and cruising. I'm in the process of divesting
myself of the Swan. It's a great racing boat but not practical for cruising
because of the deep draft and very size and complexity of it. So now I sail
"Sea Isle all over the world and enjoy the simple life with money enough to
last me three or four lifetimes. I enjoy spreading the wealth around to
those who need it in some of the poorer countries. I do Sunday services
aboard my yacht and try to save souls by introducing them to Jesus Christ
their savior.

Life is good. I've done it both ways and I maintain you must do it both ways
in order to become a real sailor and man of the world. You can't expect to
have such a grand life handed to you on a silver platter. You must work for
it in order to enjoy the fruits of your labor - but you must want freedom
more than continued opulence. Therein lies the trap. Too comfortable a life
ashore and wealth enough to maintain the lifestyle will keep you from ever
chucking it all and embracing the simple life. You've got to be motivated
from the start. You've got to remember when you first tried the cruising
life for a short time and on a limited budget. You've got to then know this
is how you want to live forever but you must then forsake it for a while and
re-join the workaday world and make a success out of yourself. You must
become a wage slave for a while with the goal of it being for a limited
time. Then you must, when you reach your financial goals, just say NO to
more of it.

Consolidate and go world cruising with a modest but competent yacht, a good
dog or cat and live happily ever after! Leave the rest of it behind.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Why sail?
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
ews.com:


"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
For those who haven't read it before and for those who didn't heed it,
here are Sterling Hayden's famous lines about the cost of sailing

" What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the
cancerous discipline of "security." And in the worship of security we
fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it
our lives are gone.

What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat
and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working
activity that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the
material sense. And we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic
system until we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments,
mortgages, preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention
from the sheer idiocy of the charade.

The years thunder by. The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked
in dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it the tomb is
sealed.

Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy
of purse or bankruptcy of life?"

G


Ah, but a hardworking, disciplined and intelligent man can have the best
of both worlds.

In my case, for example, I immersed myself in the material world for a
long enough time that I accumulated wealth beyond your wildest
imagination. I had everything I desired - wine, women, song, fast cars
and faster motorcycles, airplanes, a house by the sea and a house in the
mountains, the best of intelligent and stimulating friends - the works.
But, that all got old! It's too burdensome after a while. Like running a
business demand all your time.

So I sold it all, liquidated, consolidated. Cashed out and invested my
wealth offshore. Bought two boats - a Swan 68 for racing and an Allied
Seawind 32 for living aboard and cruising. I'm in the process of
divesting myself of the Swan. It's a great racing boat but not practical
for cruising because of the deep draft and very size and complexity of
it. So now I sail "Sea Isle all over the world and enjoy the simple life
with money enough to last me three or four lifetimes. I enjoy spreading
the wealth around to those who need it in some of the poorer countries.
I do Sunday services aboard my yacht and try to save souls by
introducing them to Jesus Christ their savior.

Life is good. I've done it both ways and I maintain you must do it both
ways in order to become a real sailor and man of the world. You can't
expect to have such a grand life handed to you on a silver platter. You
must work for it in order to enjoy the fruits of your labor - but you
must want freedom more than continued opulence. Therein lies the trap.
Too comfortable a life ashore and wealth enough to maintain the
lifestyle will keep you from ever chucking it all and embracing the
simple life. You've got to be motivated from the start. You've got to
remember when you first tried the cruising life for a short time and on
a limited budget. You've got to then know this is how you want to live
forever but you must then forsake it for a while and re-join the
workaday world and make a success out of yourself. You must become a
wage slave for a while with the goal of it being for a limited time.
Then you must, when you reach your financial goals, just say NO to more
of it.

Consolidate and go world cruising with a modest but competent yacht, a
good dog or cat and live happily ever after! Leave the rest of it
behind.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Your story seems similar to thi one by Heinrich Böll:

An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal
Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside
the small boat were several large yellow fin tuna. The American
complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.

“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.

“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.

“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then
asked.

“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.

“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your
time?”

The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my
children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each
evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and
busy life, senor.”

The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should
spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and
with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats,
eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”

“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to
the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control
the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this
small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and
eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”

The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”

To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”

“But what then, senor?”

The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is
right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your
company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make
millions.”

“Millions, senor? Then what?”

The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal
fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your
kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings
where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”

Why sail?
 

On May 29, 2:12*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message

m...





*For those who haven't read it before and for those who didn't heed it,
here are Sterling Hayden's famous lines about the cost of sailing

" What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the
cancerous discipline of "security." And in the worship of security we
fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it our
lives are gone.

What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat
and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working activity
that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the material
sense. And we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic system until
we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments, mortgages,
preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention from the sheer
idiocy of the charade.

The years thunder by. The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in
dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it the tomb is sealed.

Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy of
purse or bankruptcy of life?"

*G

Ah, but a hardworking, disciplined and intelligent man can have the best of
both worlds.

In my case, for example, I immersed myself in the material world for a long
enough time that I accumulated wealth beyond your wildest imagination. I had
everything I desired - wine, women, song, fast cars and faster motorcycles,
airplanes, a house by the sea and a house in the mountains, the best of
intelligent and stimulating friends - the works. *But, that all got old!
It's too burdensome after a while. Like running a business demand all your
time.

So I sold it all, liquidated, consolidated. Cashed out and invested my
wealth offshore. Bought two boats - a Swan 68 for racing and an Allied
Seawind 32 for living aboard and cruising. I'm in the process of divesting
myself of the Swan. It's a great racing boat but not practical for cruising
because of the deep draft and very size and complexity of it. So now I sail
"Sea Isle all over the world and enjoy the simple life with money enough to
last me three or four lifetimes. I enjoy spreading the wealth around to
those who need it in some of the poorer countries. I do Sunday services
aboard my yacht and try to save souls by introducing them to Jesus Christ
their savior.

Life is good. I've done it both ways and I maintain you must do it both ways
in order to become a real sailor and man of the world. You can't expect to
have such a grand life handed to you on a silver platter. You must work for
it in order to enjoy the fruits of your labor - but you must want freedom
more than continued opulence. Therein lies the trap. Too comfortable a life
ashore and wealth enough to maintain the lifestyle will keep you from ever
chucking it all and embracing the simple life. You've got to be motivated
from the start. You've got to remember when you first tried the cruising
life for a short time and on a limited budget. You've got to then know this
is how you want to live forever but you must then forsake it for a while and
re-join the workaday world and make a success out of yourself. You must
become a wage slave for a while with the goal of it being for a limited
time. Then you must, when you reach your financial goals, just say NO to
more of it.

Consolidate and go world cruising with a modest but competent yacht, a good
dog or cat and live happily ever after! Leave the rest of it behind.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Its clear you are the cruising type

To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm
foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise, you are doomed to a routine
traverse, the kind known to yachtsmen who play with their boats at
sea... "cruising" it is called. Voyaging belongs to seamen, and to the
wanderers of the world who cannot, or will not, fit in. If you are
contemplating a voyage and you have the means, abandon the venture
until your fortunes change. Only then will you know what the sea is
all about.

Fred

Why sail?
 

On May 29, 7:35 pm, wrote:
On May 29, 2:12 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:



"Gordon" wrote in message

om...

For those who haven't read it before and for those who didn't heed it,
here are Sterling Hayden's famous lines about the cost of sailing

" What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the
cancerous discipline of "security." And in the worship of security we
fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it our
lives are gone.

What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat
and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working activity
that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the material
sense. And we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic system until
we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments, mortgages,
preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention from the sheer
idiocy of the charade.

The years thunder by. The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in
dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it the tomb is sealed.

Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy of
purse or bankruptcy of life?"

G

Ah, but a hardworking, disciplined and intelligent man can have the best of
both worlds.

In my case, for example, I immersed myself in the material world for a long
enough time that I accumulated wealth beyond your wildest imagination. I had
everything I desired - wine, women, song, fast cars and faster motorcycles,
airplanes, a house by the sea and a house in the mountains, the best of
intelligent and stimulating friends - the works. But, that all got old!
It's too burdensome after a while. Like running a business demand all your
time.

So I sold it all, liquidated, consolidated. Cashed out and invested my
wealth offshore. Bought two boats - a Swan 68 for racing and an Allied
Seawind 32 for living aboard and cruising. I'm in the process of divesting
myself of the Swan. It's a great racing boat but not practical for cruising
because of the deep draft and very size and complexity of it. So now I sail
"Sea Isle all over the world and enjoy the simple life with money enough to
last me three or four lifetimes. I enjoy spreading the wealth around to
those who need it in some of the poorer countries. I do Sunday services
aboard my yacht and try to save souls by introducing them to Jesus Christ
their savior.

Life is good. I've done it both ways and I maintain you must do it both ways
in order to become a real sailor and man of the world. You can't expect to
have such a grand life handed to you on a silver platter. You must work for
it in order to enjoy the fruits of your labor - but you must want freedom
more than continued opulence. Therein lies the trap. Too comfortable a life
ashore and wealth enough to maintain the lifestyle will keep you from ever
chucking it all and embracing the simple life. You've got to be motivated
from the start. You've got to remember when you first tried the cruising
life for a short time and on a limited budget. You've got to then know this
is how you want to live forever but you must then forsake it for a while and
re-join the workaday world and make a success out of yourself. You must
become a wage slave for a while with the goal of it being for a limited
time. Then you must, when you reach your financial goals, just say NO to
more of it.

Consolidate and go world cruising with a modest but competent yacht, a good
dog or cat and live happily ever after! Leave the rest of it behind.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Its clear you are the cruising type

To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm
foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise, you are doomed to a routine
traverse, the kind known to yachtsmen who play with their boats at
sea... "cruising" it is called. Voyaging belongs to seamen, and to the
wanderers of the world who cannot, or will not, fit in. If you are
contemplating a voyage and you have the means, abandon the venture
until your fortunes change. Only then will you know what the sea is
all about.

Fred

I never dreamed that I would hear of H Boll, never mind H
Sterling..but point taken
tm

Why sail?
 

In article ,
"Roger Long" wrote:

Thank you for that.

Hayden's novel "Voyage" is also a great read. It makes the point that the
huge sailing ships at the end of the age of sail were not so much the apex
of the sailing ship but the harbinger of the industrial revolution in which
people became the fuel for the giant machines of commerce. Sailing them was
a brutal business compared to the smaller ships of a half century before.

I'm reading 'The Way of a Ship' - all about one of the last
square-riggers and its daily routine.. gripping, if somewhat exhausting
just thinking about those sailors!

--

Molesworth

Why sail?
 

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Thank you for that.

I've got the book somewhere. I'll have to get it out and read it again
this summer.

BTW his schooner, Wanderer, was documented by the WPA project along with a
lot of other historic vessels and a set of drawings is available from the
National Watercraft Collection. The sail plan was done from photographs
and the trained eye can see the forshortening caused by the lens and
perspective. Beautiful vessel, a former San Fransisco pilot schooner.

Hayden's novel "Voyage" is also a great read. It makes the point that the
huge sailing ships at the end of the age of sail were not so much the apex
of the sailing ship but the harbinger of the industrial revolution in
which people became the fuel for the giant machines of commerce. Sailing
them was a brutal business compared to the smaller ships of a half century
before.

--
Roger Long

And, he was a great and versatile actor.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Why sail?
 

On Fri, 30 May 2008 10:06:43 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Thank you for that.

I've got the book somewhere. I'll have to get it out and read it again
this summer.

BTW his schooner, Wanderer, was documented by the WPA project along with a
lot of other historic vessels and a set of drawings is available from the
National Watercraft Collection. The sail plan was done from photographs
and the trained eye can see the forshortening caused by the lens and
perspective. Beautiful vessel, a former San Fransisco pilot schooner.

Hayden's novel "Voyage" is also a great read. It makes the point that the
huge sailing ships at the end of the age of sail were not so much the apex
of the sailing ship but the harbinger of the industrial revolution in
which people became the fuel for the giant machines of commerce. Sailing
them was a brutal business compared to the smaller ships of a half century
before.

Didn't he refit a schooner foremast to square rigged? Or was it
aviation writer Ernest K Gann who did that. A flagpole company lathe
turned the spars. I have a Hayden book and Gann's only boat book, but
not a good memory.

Casady

Why sail?
 

On May 30, 1:08*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 10:06:43 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:





"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Thank you for that.

I've got the book somewhere. *I'll have to get it out and read it again
this summer.

BTW his schooner, Wanderer, was documented by the WPA project along with a
lot of other historic vessels and a set of drawings is available from the
National Watercraft Collection. *The sail plan was done from photographs
and the trained eye can see the forshortening caused by the lens and
perspective. *Beautiful vessel, a former San Fransisco pilot schooner..

Hayden's novel "Voyage" is also a great read. *It makes the point that the
huge sailing ships at the end of the age of sail were not so much the apex
of the sailing ship but the harbinger of the industrial revolution in
which people became the fuel for the giant machines of commerce. *Sailing
them was a brutal business compared to the smaller ships of a half century
before.

Didn't he refit a schooner foremast to square rigged? Or was it
aviation writer Ernest K Gann who did that. A flagpole company lathe
turned the spars. I have a Hayden book and Gann's only boat book, but
not a good memory.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope
http://sailorsongs.com/ss_images/themarye

Fred

Why sail?
 

On May 30, 5:04*pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
That was Ernie Gann and it ended up killing a lot of people. *I was deeply
involved in finding out what happend years later. *Full story can be read in
"Tall Ships Down" by Dan Parrott. *I'll come back when I've got more time
and post the basics if anyone is interested.

--
Roger Long

I thought Gann's Ship was lost in the Gulf of Mexico, became the bases
for the movie/ book "White Squall". The boat was named Albatros IIRC.

Fred