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Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
"rhys" wrote in message ... On 18 Mar 2004 01:26:21 -0800, (Bob Whitaker) wrote: As I mentioned to Frank on a previous post, one of the things I am curious about is how different boats behave under bare poles in heavy winds. Do you know how the Ranger 33 behaves? Or the other boats on your list? Will they go bow to wind? stern to wind? or lay abeam? I don't have that much experience under bare poles but I read somewhere that most designs that lay bow to wind tend to have full keels, whereas most modern designs will tend to lay abeam. Do you have any experience in this? OK, here's some stuff out of left field. I own a Viking 33, a C&C design commissioned by Ontario Yachts, who did the Niagara 31 and 35s. This is a well-built racer-cruiser that looks like a C&C 34 on a strict diet. Beam 9' 10, LWL 27'. and the typical enormous J of the era at 15'. I'll second that one. Forgot about the Viking 33 but it is a good boat too. The advice given later in the post is right on. I've never laid under bare poles except as an experiment on deliveries, and the boats I've done this in all seemed to end up lying abeam to the seas (they've all been fin keelers of differing aspect ratios). I haven't done much cruising in bad weather (that's what heaters, blankets, books, and anchors are for as far as I'm concerned), and my blue water work has all been with bigger crews (4 minimum), so we always actively sailed through the tough stuff. Bare poles always seemed to be a technique used only in desperate situations. Whether a boat lies bow to the wind (this being a relative term, I think you mean something above maybe 60 degrees or so) is mostly a function of windage. More windage aft and you will lie closer to the wind, but I can guarantee that if you have a roller furling headsail or high freeboard at the bow and low freeboard aft you will never do so. Way too much windage too far forward. I think the current thinking is that laying under bare poles is a pretty risky technique. Most boats tend to lie beam to the seas and this is the most vulnerable position (Van Dorn says if you are beam to a breaking wave approximately the beam of your boat you are likely to be capsized and tank testing has confirmed that). I think the choices are either active sailing (many boats can actually sail upwind in big wind and waves under autopilot if the waves are relatively consistent and the wind doesn't fluctuate too much), or using some sort of drag device. The Drag Device Database is a good place to read up on that - lots of good true stories about what works and what might not. I think the author has a web site at www.dddb.com |
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