"Larry" wrote in message
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Skip uses an EU2000i to supplement his wind and solar power on Flying
Pig very successfully. These little Hondas run a LONG time on a little
fuel. Works great!


And Skip is a proven inconsiderate jerk in many other areas as well. He
needs to get a clue and so do you. Portables are too noisy and it takes an
inconsiderate jerk to prop one up on the back of his boat where it
broadcasts noise for half a mile and bothers everybody within earshot. How
has it come to the point where people are so selfish that they don't even
consider how rude they are being with their noise? All for the sake of being
too cheap to put a real, quiet built-in generator in the hull.

"I'm a freaking cheapskate. I wish to save a few dollars. In doing so I will
be bothering lots of folks who enjoy peace and quiet. Well, **** them. ****
them all. I'm the important one in this world. My fun and convenience
supercedes a bunch of folks right to peace and quiet."

That's Skip and that's you, too apparently. Grow up and act like a
responsible considerate man why don't you?

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:05:04 +0000, Larry wrote:

The problem with portable generators on boats is Carbon Monoxide
poisoning from the heavier-than-air, hard-to-detect exhaust fumes

Carbon monoxide is slightly lighter than air. Carbon dioxide, which is
harmless, is appreciably heavier than air.

Casady

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Does anyone have any knowledge, experience or input? I can't really
see anything wrong with it as long as it is stored properly and
obviously operated in the open,

That's where I see a big problem - operating it in the open. This
usually involves putting the thing high up where it broadcasts noise
to everybody within half a mile. Just because you want to run a
coffeemaker?

Why not use a quite cookstove and spare all concerned the noise in an
anchorage where quiet it called for? Or do you wish to be viewed as
just another inconsiderate cheapskate asshole who ruins cruising for
everybody else?

Wilbur Hubbard

Agreed. In forty-odd years of racing and cruising I have never seen coffee
made in an electric percolator. O.K., for convenience we use instant coffee,
but there must be lots of ways to make real coffee without a percolator.
Those Italian aluminum percs you sit on the stove top would surely make a
good cuppa?

Dennis.

"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Does anyone have any knowledge, experience or input? I can't really
see anything wrong with it as long as it is stored properly and
obviously operated in the open,

That's where I see a big problem - operating it in the open. This
usually involves putting the thing high up where it broadcasts noise
to everybody within half a mile. Just because you want to run a
coffeemaker?

Why not use a quite cookstove and spare all concerned the noise in an
anchorage where quiet it called for? Or do you wish to be viewed as
just another inconsiderate cheapskate asshole who ruins cruising for
everybody else?

Wilbur Hubbard

Agreed. In forty-odd years of racing and cruising I have never seen coffee
made in an electric percolator. O.K., for convenience we use instant
coffee,
but there must be lots of ways to make real coffee without a percolator.
Those Italian aluminum percs you sit on the stove top would surely make a
good cuppa?

Dennis.


http://about.pricegrabber.com/search...skd=1/st=query

If you aren't using something like these you ain't drinking coffee, IMHO!
They make fine espresso on your typical quiet boat stove.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Larry" wrote in message
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The worry about the EU2000i in a boat is unfounded. When you shut down
the EU2000 by turning the "switch" off, it closes the fuel valve
automatically. If you then simply close the vent by moving the lever to
the closed position in the fuel filler cap, the entire fuel system is
now sealed for safe storage about anywhere....including the boat.



That was really my question. I already have the Honda EU-2000i, so it's not
an additional investment.
Furthermore, contrary to certain complaints/comments, it makes less noise
than the exhaust from the permanently mounted, diesel powered gensets that I
had on my last two boats. In terms of courteous use, it's a matter of
common sense. If you think it will be heard or possibly bother someone,
don't run it.

I was really after the safety issue, not a philosophical discussion of the
appropriate use of a generator.
It can also be used to recharge batteries in an emergency and other
requirements for temporary power when you don't have any.
I certainly am not talking about it running all day, powering an AC unit.

Anyway, I think I have found my answer elsewhere.
Thanks to all that replied, even with the coffee brand suggestions.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Larry" wrote in message
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The worry about the EU2000i in a boat is unfounded. When you shut down
the EU2000 by turning the "switch" off, it closes the fuel valve
automatically. If you then simply close the vent by moving the lever to
the closed position in the fuel filler cap, the entire fuel system is
now sealed for safe storage about anywhere....including the boat.



That was really my question. I already have the Honda EU-2000i, so it's
not an additional investment.
Furthermore, contrary to certain complaints/comments, it makes less noise
than the exhaust from the permanently mounted, diesel powered gensets that
I had on my last two boats. In terms of courteous use, it's a matter of
common sense. If you think it will be heard or possibly bother someone,
don't run it.

I was really after the safety issue, not a philosophical discussion of the
appropriate use of a generator.
It can also be used to recharge batteries in an emergency and other
requirements for temporary power when you don't have any.
I certainly am not talking about it running all day, powering an AC unit.

Anyway, I think I have found my answer elsewhere.
Thanks to all that replied, even with the coffee brand suggestions.

Eisboch
I run a Honda 10i which I plug into the shore power outlet and find most
usefull. It has saved a lot of main engine running which gets expensive and
is not good for the diesel when run at low load. I am very happy with the
Honda.
Bill

Wayne,

I think you want to monitor carbom monoxide. I'm guessing CO2 was a typo.
I don't really follow the OP. His boat has a diesel engine. I wonder how
he starts it. Perhaps it has a battery or two. Anyway a small camp stove
will heat coffee, fry eggs, make oatmeal, et c. The genset seems silly.

Dave M.

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:29:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Here we go again! Another jerk who'd rather make unnecessary noise in an
anchorage than be considerate and make coffee that doesn't bother everybody
within earshot.

I am a jerk for suggesting solar cells to charge a battery to make
engine free coffee? My other suggestion was to use a non electric
coffee maker. Learn to read and you might not be such an asshole.

Casady

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:33:20 -0400, wrote:

A non-electric (or any) percolator makes
about the worst coffee possible. I'd forego the coffee entirely if that was my
alternative.

Percolaters _are_ somewhat difficult to clean. You need a special
brush to clean the stem. A dirty coffee pot will cause bad coffee. You
can make decent coffee with a percolater, its not impossible by any
means. All you really have to do is clean the pot and don't let it
perk too long. There are also non electric drip coffee makers, if you
don't like percolators. I remember the first automatic drip coffee
makers, in 1970 or so. People did drink the stuff before that. They
must make better coffee than perk or they wouldn't have taken over so
much of the market. I think there is a coffee newsgroup which I might
look for.

Casady

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:29:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Here we go again! Another jerk who'd rather make unnecessary noise in an
anchorage than be considerate and make coffee that doesn't bother
everybody
within earshot.

I am a jerk for suggesting solar cells to charge a battery to make
engine free coffee? My other suggestion was to use a non electric
coffee maker. Learn to read and you might not be such an asshole.

Casady

I beg your pardon. I replied to your post by mistake while fuming at the
idiocy of the portable generator jerks. My bad. I'll try to be more careful
in the future. I'm sorry.

Wilbur Hubbard