Bulb keels,..?
 

Ahoy, I'm looking at a Cascade 36. These were offered in different
configurations and this one has a bulb keel. Any comments on bulbs in
general and Cascades in particular? Beam 10', L 36, LWL 29, Draft 5.6'
Displacement 13k lbs. Mid 70's. There are quite a few of these for
sale in the $25k range and it looks like a lot of boat for the money.
Anyone been aboard or sailed one? Thanks as always, rl.

Bulb keels,..?
 

On Apr 17, 12:45*am, ray lunder wrote:
Ahoy, I'm looking at a Cascade 36.

Cascade yachts in Portland Oregon were the brokers for the Freya I
bought. I wandered through their yard several times. This company is
not the company that built the boats in the 70s-80s. The new Cascade
yacht company has hit hard times in the last 10 years but the Cascade
boats built by the original company are what many consider a great
boat that simply has fallen out of popularity. Youre right about a
variet of configerations. Iv sat on at least a dozen and been a quest
sailing on maybe four.

the owners all loved them. Stout, simple, inexpensive to buy. LIke any
70s boat youre looking at replacing all tanks, rebed deck hardware and
replace windows and standing rigging and of course electric system.
Many of the 70s boats lacked an AC pannel. Inside finsish varies
greatly cause most were kit boats and owner finished. If you can find
a yard finished boat grab it. Cascade Yachts did great inside work.

When crusing ment a 29--36' boat lots of Cascades sailed all over the
place. When is was in Fiji in the late 70s (damn now im starting to
sound like Roger) I saw a Cascade about 32'. The guy loved it........

Go to the NEW owners website for more history.

For the bulb keel............ not having any formal training in marine
design like Roger, I can only give an opinion baised on uhhh, well
opinion. My guess the bulb keel is sort like other dodads from larger
vessels/racers adapted to small pleasure craft. Any perfomance
increase is probably not measurable. Sorta like all the hood scoops
and spoilers on 70s muscle cars. The advantage really doesnt start to
work till your over 140 mph.

bob

Bulb keels,..?
 

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

Sorta like all the hood scoops
and spoilers on 70s muscle cars. The advantage really doesnt start to
work till your over 140 mph.

Scoops work somewhat even when the vehicle is stopped. The outside air
is generally significantly cooler and denser than the underhood air.
Once the machine is moving you get the benefit of ram air as well.
That does not work much at slow speeds, as you say.

Bulb keels,..?
 

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Apr 17, 12:45 am, ray lunder wrote:
Ahoy, I'm looking at a Cascade 36.

Cascade yachts in Portland Oregon were the brokers for the Freya I
bought. I wandered through their yard several times. This company is
not the company that built the boats in the 70s-80s. The new Cascade
yacht company has hit hard times in the last 10 years but the Cascade
boats built by the original company are what many consider a great
boat that simply has fallen out of popularity. Youre right about a
variet of configerations. Iv sat on at least a dozen and been a quest
sailing on maybe four.

the owners all loved them. Stout, simple, inexpensive to buy. LIke any
70s boat youre looking at replacing all tanks, rebed deck hardware and
replace windows and standing rigging and of course electric system.
Many of the 70s boats lacked an AC pannel. Inside finsish varies
greatly cause most were kit boats and owner finished. If you can find
a yard finished boat grab it. Cascade Yachts did great inside work.

When crusing ment a 29--36' boat lots of Cascades sailed all over the
place. When is was in Fiji in the late 70s (damn now im starting to
sound like Roger) I saw a Cascade about 32'. The guy loved it........

Go to the NEW owners website for more history.

For the bulb keel............ not having any formal training in marine
design like Roger, I can only give an opinion baised on uhhh, well
opinion. My guess the bulb keel is sort like other dodads from larger
vessels/racers adapted to small pleasure craft. Any perfomance
increase is probably not measurable. Sorta like all the hood scoops
and spoilers on 70s muscle cars. The advantage really doesnt start to
work till your over 140 mph.

bob


My 1965 Cal 20 had sort of a bulb keel... sure put the weight in mostly the
right spot, or at least a bit lower. The whole keel was iron, with a bulb at
the bottom.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Bulb keels,..?
 

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Apr 17, 12:45*am, ray lunder wrote:
Ahoy, I'm looking at a Cascade 36.

Cascade yachts in Portland Oregon were the brokers for the Freya I
bought. I wandered through their yard several times. This company is
not the company that built the boats in the 70s-80s. The new Cascade
yacht company has hit hard times in the last 10 years but the Cascade
boats built by the original company are what many consider a great
boat that simply has fallen out of popularity. Youre right about a
variet of configerations. Iv sat on at least a dozen and been a quest
sailing on maybe four.

the owners all loved them. Stout, simple, inexpensive to buy. LIke any
70s boat youre looking at replacing all tanks, rebed deck hardware and
replace windows and standing rigging and of course electric system.
Many of the 70s boats lacked an AC pannel. Inside finsish varies
greatly cause most were kit boats and owner finished. If you can find
a yard finished boat grab it. Cascade Yachts did great inside work.

When crusing ment a 29--36' boat lots of Cascades sailed all over the
place. When is was in Fiji in the late 70s (damn now im starting to
sound like Roger) I saw a Cascade about 32'. The guy loved it........

Go to the NEW owners website for more history.

For the bulb keel............ not having any formal training in marine
design like Roger, I can only give an opinion baised on uhhh, well
opinion. My guess the bulb keel is sort like other dodads from larger
vessels/racers adapted to small pleasure craft. Any perfomance
increase is probably not measurable. Sorta like all the hood scoops
and spoilers on 70s muscle cars. The advantage really doesnt start to
work till your over 140 mph.

bob


Naw Man! The spoilers, scoops and wrinkle walls actually came into
their own when you cruised by some sweet young thing, buzzed the
throttle AND SHE TURNED AND LOOKED AT YOU! C o o l Man.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)