On May 28, 5:13*pm, wrote:

On Wed, 28 May 2008 16:05:29 -0700 (PDT), Jay wrote:
Okay, in an automobile, what device performs the do or die piece of
information to indicate that the car's water pump is working or not?

An automobile does not have the same needs as an outboard. For openers, the
outboard is raw water cooled and the auto is a closed system. Major differences. The pumps are entirekly different too. The outboard needs a very different type of water pump. Comparing the cars water pump and cooling system to your outboard is as reasobale as comparing it to the space shuttle.

Interesting that none of your response addressed the specific
question I asked in the paragraph before. None of your response post
answered the question posed: "in an automobile, what device performs
the do or die piece of
information to indicate that the car's water pump is working or not?"

A temp gauge or red light? *IOW, to say that the water pump is running
dry is also to say the motor is overheating, isn't it? *

Two different things in an outboard. running dry is instant death to the water
pump. A car doesn't have to suck up water from an outside sorce to
lubricate the water pump. It can be run dry a lot longer than the one
in your outboard. That's
why a tell tale is MANDATORY.

Actually another non-specific response to a specific question.
Basically, I asked, true or false, if the water pump runs dry, does
the motor overheat, And, of course, the only possible obvious answer
is TRUE. Also, you stated "in an outboard, running dry is instant
death to the water pump." And you know with absolute certainty that
there are no outboard brands manufactured anywhere on the planet that
can be run without immersing them in water (IOW, run dry with no
damage whatsoever to the water pump). If there was an outboard motor
made where water immersion was not necessary to run it and no damage
would be done to the water pump doing so, then saying a tell-tale is
MANDATORY would then be a false statement, wouldn't it?

Doesn't one immediately lead to the other? *Therefore, it would seem like all the processes are really interconnected.

Only if you don't understand the basic differences betyween the two dissimilar
systems you are trying to compare.

So you are basically saying a failed water pump would not cause
engine overheating??? If a failed water pump DID CAUSE said
overheating and resultant engine failure, then wouldn't my statement
"Doesn't one immediately lead to the other?" be TRUE?

So you're saying the water coming out of the pee holes is not water
being released by the thermostat in the Suzuki DF2.5? *Yes or no?

I have no idea where you are headed with this question.

Not heading anywhere, just looking for a simple yes or no answer.


The water coming out of the pee-hole is forced out by pressure from
the water pump regardless if the thermostat is open or closed.

So you are saying that there is no outboard manufactured on the
face of the Earth wherein the discharge from the "pee hole" is
governed by the thermostat?

Finally, if
this Suzuki outboard of mine runs for several years with water only
INTERMITTENTLY coming out of the "pee" holes and it never overheats,
will you still cling to the notion that it's a defective piece of
equipment? *IOW, will you argue and continue to denigrate
a successful and non-defective outboard motor design?


Yes. If I can't always be sure with a quick glance that the water pump is
working, I would not keep that motor. I would return it immediately even if I
took a loss to do so. If that is the way it is suposed to be, then I would judge
it to be a piece of poorly and improperly designed crap that can not be depended
upon. I wouldn't use it, or own it, and If I sold it, I would have to disclose
that problem with it. *

So you would ignore the fact that the motor ran for years without
constant discharge from the pee-holes and never overheated and/or
seized-up. You would still call it a piece of crap. Why, because its
longevity would prove you wrong and not being right is a mortal sin
too great for you to absorb? Reminds me of the old adage, if it's not
broke, don't fix it. IF that motor is designed to operate like it
does WITHOUT constantly "peeing" and it continues to operate that way
without overheating, damage to the water pump an/or seizure of the
motor, then guess what? Your know-it-all statements are DEAD-ON W-R-O-
N-G! A tough pill to swallow for egomaniacs but easier with a couple
of bottles of Corona. And calling me a dimwit and saying Casady's
calculations are "baloney" might imply you check night school for a
refresher course in human relations/communication.


Finally, is the goat that is sacrificed at the altar of the pee
hole required to be a virgin nanny? *lol

On further reflection, I bet you DO require a virgin goat for the
sacrifice.

-Jay
(STILL sorting it all out and waiting for the final word from Wilbur
Hubbard on the matter).