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Gordon wrote in news:13ub7cpg8rflcd2
@corp.supernews.com: http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp I'm a motorcyclist, and have been since I was 15. My current bike is a Honda Reflex 250cc scooter, the perfect vehicle for city driving at 80 mpg. Notice how the call for "increased motorcycle safety awareness" and "helmets", which is what hung this guy from the truck until he was dead, and more penalties, always more jail time, which never does anything is always called for. WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH LIMITING THE SIZE OF MOTORCYCLE ENGINES TO SOMETHING LESS THAN THE 500HP SUZUKI HAYABUSA OR THE 1,800CC HONDA MONSTERS OR THE 1,500CC HARLEY BEASTS?! You'll never see that called for because that would hurt the DEALERS THAT SOLD IT TO HIM. It's just peachy ok to build and sell motorcycles whos speedometer tops out at 450 mph.....to the dumbest recipients of the Darwin Awards. My 250 will cruise just as fast as the traffic on the interstate....Isn't that fast enough? No, we need a production motorcycle...sports car...hot Japanese drifter...that will do 0 to 120 in 4.8 seconds. No motorcycles over 250CC.... No cars over 120hp.... No pickup trucks, either. .....and MOST IMPORTANT..... EVERYONE'S FRONT AND REAR BUMPERS MUST ALL BE AT EXACTLY THE SAME HEIGHT AS A 1985 FORD SEDAN....or some STANDARD height! Any variation over 1" MUST result in confiscation and disposal of the offending vehicle....no exceptions. ****heads like this jerk give motorcycling a bad name..... |
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Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in news:13ub7cpg8rflcd2 @corp.supernews.com: http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp I'm a motorcyclist, and have been since I was 15. My current bike is a Honda Reflex 250cc scooter, the perfect vehicle for city driving at 80 mpg. Notice how the call for "increased motorcycle safety awareness" and "helmets", which is what hung this guy from the truck until he was dead, and more penalties, always more jail time, which never does anything is always called for. WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH LIMITING THE SIZE OF MOTORCYCLE ENGINES TO SOMETHING LESS THAN THE 500HP SUZUKI HAYABUSA OR THE 1,800CC HONDA MONSTERS OR THE 1,500CC HARLEY BEASTS?! Snip ****heads like this jerk give motorcycling a bad name..... Not anymore! G |
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On 2008-03-23, Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in news:13ub7cpg8rflcd2 @corp.supernews.com: http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp I'm a motorcyclist, and have been since I was 15. My current bike is a Honda Reflex 250cc scooter, the perfect vehicle for city driving at 80 mpg. Notice how the call for "increased motorcycle safety awareness" and "helmets", which is what hung this guy from the truck until he was dead, and more penalties, always more jail time, which never does anything is always called for. So if he hadn't been wearing the helmet, the force that was enough to put at helmet *through* the truck wouldn't have meant the driver having to hose the bikers brains off the back of his trailer? If the helmet hung him, then he was unfortunate, without it he would have been dead sooner. On the other hand, if he'd been 6 inches to his left, he may have just "banged his head". WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH LIMITING THE SIZE OF MOTORCYCLE ENGINES TO SOMETHING LESS THAN THE 500HP SUZUKI HAYABUSA OR THE 1,800CC HONDA MONSTERS OR THE 1,500CC HARLEY BEASTS?! The 1500 Harleys aren't the problem, though, they're generally cruising bikes, as are the big Hondas. Most of those guys aren't interested in those kind of speeds. WRT 250cc limit, have you ever seen MotoGP? There is a 250cc class that is easily faster than the claimed 124mph of the deceased rider. You'll never see that called for because that would hurt the DEALERS THAT SOLD IT TO HIM. It's just peachy ok to build and sell motorcycles whos speedometer tops out at 450 mph.....to the dumbest recipients of the Darwin Awards. You'll never see it because it's not the dealers fault. Guns don't kill people, people do. WRT the Darwin Awards, I'm pro-natural selection, bring it on - it's got to be better than what we have in the civilised world today. My 250 will cruise just as fast as the traffic on the interstate....Isn't that fast enough? No, we need a production motorcycle...sports car...hot Japanese drifter...that will do 0 to 120 in 4.8 seconds. There we have it in plain black and white: it's enough for me, no body should have more. Will your next target be how much alcohol I drink? How much tobacco I smoke? How many rounds I squeeze off over the weekend? Or how about the fat content of my diet? Or the caffeine content of my coffee? Where will those "who know best" finish restricting people's choices? Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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Justin C wrote in
e.com: So if he hadn't been wearing the helmet, the force that was enough to put at helmet *through* the truck wouldn't have meant the driver having to hose the bikers brains off the back of his trailer? If the helmet hung him, then he was unfortunate, without it he would have been dead sooner. On the other hand, if he'd been 6 inches to his left, he may have just "banged his head". At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c; |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... Justin C wrote in e.com: So if he hadn't been wearing the helmet, the force that was enough to put at helmet *through* the truck wouldn't have meant the driver having to hose the bikers brains off the back of his trailer? If the helmet hung him, then he was unfortunate, without it he would have been dead sooner. On the other hand, if he'd been 6 inches to his left, he may have just "banged his head". At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c; I believe it. I dumped my old KZ350 when I came around a corner and realized the road had washed out. Put the bike down and let it go. I didn't realize it in the moment, but my helmet was apparently bouncing on the pavement until I stopped sliding. It was crushed side-to-side, and it took two people to get it off my head. I was only doing about 45. I also had road-rash from my ankle to my shoulder. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13ue73ilp3ctef1
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... "Capt. JG" wrote in news:13ue73ilp3ctef1 @corp.supernews.com: KZ350 "Kawasaki Let's The Good Times Roll!" It was a strange bike... three carbs and high pipes, so with the latter you could take it a bit off-road and not worry about crushing them. Hard to tune it right though. Mine looked like this, only it was grey. I paid $200 for it. Should have kept it I guess. http://musclecarranch.com/vintage_bikes.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: Mine looked like this, only it was grey. I paid $200 for it. Should have kept it I guess. Worth a lot more than $200 now.... Ever have oil injection troubles? |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Mine looked like this, only it was grey. I paid $200 for it. Should have kept it I guess. Worth a lot more than $200 now.... Ever have oil injection troubles? I only had trouble with the 2-stroke oil mixture. At idle it was fine, even high idle, but at freeway speeds it was not getting enough. Not sure if that's what you mean. Damn thing seized up on me on the freeway. Scary. All of a sudden the throttle stopped working and the cars were whizzing by. *Then* I realized the rear wheel had pretty much locked. Then, I pulled in the clutch just as it started to get out of control. I had to rebuild it, then I took it to a "mechanic" who made the same mistake. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:13:55 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: my helmet was apparently bouncing on the pavement until I stopped sliding. It was crushed side-to-side, and it took two people to get it off my head. I was only doing about 45. I also had road-rash from my ankle to my shoulder. I have had doubts about the ability of a helmet to protect from impact. However, you will note the head was spared from road rash. No scraped off face. Casady |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: I only had trouble with the 2-stroke oil mixture. At idle it was fine, even high idle, but at freeway speeds it was not getting enough. Not sure if that's what you mean. Damn thing seized up on me on the freeway. Scary. All of a sudden the throttle stopped working and the cars were whizzing by. *Then* I realized the rear wheel had pretty much locked. Then, I pulled in the clutch just as it started to get out of control. I had to rebuild it, then I took it to a "mechanic" who made the same mistake. Hmm....just like Jetskis! A 2-stroke engine runs best JUST BEFORE IT SEIZES!....(C; Most of the time it's caused by clogged jets making it run leaner than it should...lean gas-OK....lean oil-OOPS!!! When they're running, the simplicity of it all is just great. But, alas, with so little lubrication and needle bearings, they don't run very long. Honda was pretty much the DOOM of the 2-stroke bikes....along with all the British bikes you couldn't start, most of the time. (Had BSA, Triumphs, too! Larry KNOWS crank-crank-crank- curse) I was young and VERY STUPID when I made the gross error of trading in my perfect Honda 305 Dream for the 750-4. Hormonal imbalance with money saved....never a good thing. You can't BUY a used 305 Dream unless it's in pieces. So, I got the nearest bike Honda's made to it in years, the Reflex 250. The Reflex drives and rides just about like the Dream...without the shifting, which is perfect for the city. Twist the throttle and the V- belt drive pretty much takes care of itself. Drive it like you stole it, 72 mpg. Drive it like your car, 80 mpg. It's too much fun to worry about saving gas...(c; The belt shift bogs at about 40, but the hackers have a modified weight roller kit to raise the first "shift point" up to get rid of it, if it bothers you. I'm to old to bother. I bought it for $3000 from a custom bike shop that also sells Vespas, a wierd combo there. The original owner was 70 and swapped it for a Vespa 125 I think he'll regret. It had only 1900 miles on it from 2004 to 2007. It sat on the sales floor for 8 hours before I just had to open my big mouth and say to the owner, "I need a bike about half way between that one (pointing to the 1800cc fire breathing but very beautiful custom choppers) and that one (pointing to the little Vespa)." "I got just what you need.", he smiled, as we walked back to the used Reflex. "Drive it around the block and see how you like it.", he said after I showed him the 2nd Motorcycle Endorsement in Charleston, SC. I headed home for the truck or a free ride back to the shop. I think that: Everyone driving an SUV or pickup truck pays an extra $5000 penalty tax each year. Everyone driving something over 60 mpg, anything, gets $5000 check from the SUV owner's taxes. The surplus MUST be used to FIX THE ROADS! No passenger vehicles are allowed to have over 4 cylinders, including pickup trucks, which are just SUVs with outside storage. The oil companies would have a heart attack. PRICES FOR OIL would plummet, allowing the poor farmers feeding us all to make a small profit for a change instead of handing it all over to the tractor diesel barons. Power boat owners are treated like SUV owners.... Sailboat owners get over 60 mpg, easy, so are treated accordingly.... If we're interested in NOT running out of oil, we must act accordingly....or else. I'm doing my part....with my used veggie oil diesels. I get $5000 per vehicle as they all get over 60 mpg...easy....and use NO sulfur fuel, not low sulfur fuel....(c; The government must stop colluding with the oil barons to prevent Americans from owning fuel efficient tiny cars under the guise of "safety". How stupid. I can buy a scooter with no protection, but I'm NOT allowed to own a Fiat that gets 65mpg because it's "not safe". More lies.... |
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I think that: Everyone driving an SUV or pickup truck pays an extra $5000 penalty tax each year. Everyone driving something over 60 mpg, anything, gets $5000 check from the SUV owner's taxes. The surplus MUST be used to FIX THE ROADS! No passenger vehicles are allowed to have over 4 cylinders, including pickup trucks, which are just SUVs with outside storage. The oil companies would have a heart attack. PRICES FOR OIL would plummet, allowing the poor farmers feeding us all to make a small profit for a change instead of handing it all over to the tractor diesel barons. Power boat owners are treated like SUV owners.... Sailboat owners get over 60 mpg, easy, so are treated accordingly.... If we're interested in NOT running out of oil, we must act accordingly....or else. I'm doing my part....with my used veggie oil diesels. I get $5000 per vehicle as they all get over 60 mpg...easy....and use NO sulfur fuel, not low sulfur fuel....(c; The government must stop colluding with the oil barons to prevent Americans from owning fuel efficient tiny cars under the guise of "safety". How stupid. I can buy a scooter with no protection, but I'm NOT allowed to own a Fiat that gets 65mpg because it's "not safe". More lies.... You're wanting more big govmint telling you what you can and can't do??????? G |
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Gordon wrote in news:13ugds1on9d2855
@corp.supernews.com: You're wanting more big govmint telling you what you can and can't do??????? G You already GOT it! I'm simply trying to point out their ire is misdirected, if we are to stretch what oil there is left beyond our lifetimes.... Let's do away with it all and you can stand on your poopdeck and repel borders after your wealth. Is anarchy the answer? |
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WaIIy wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:49:33 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: On 2008-03-24 14:44:27 -0400, (Richard Casady) said: I have had doubts about the ability of a helmet to protect from impact. However, you will note the head was spared from road rash. No scraped off face. I can attest that a proper helmet will save a head; won't ride without one. Got rear-ended and flipped off the bike years ago. Saved my scalp and possibly a bit of skull as the scratches were pretty deep.... A buddy of mine was buying a helmet a long time ago. He was trying to decide between the $20.00 helmet and the $50.00 helmet. I told him "Do you have a $20.00 head?" You know, you can break most of the bones in the human body and heal up pretty well. But break the head bones - all bet are off. |
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Jere Lull wrote in news:2008032500493316807-
jerelull@maccom: I can attest that a proper helmet will save a head; won't ride without one. Got rear-ended and flipped off the bike years ago. Saved my scalp and possibly a bit of skull as the scratches were pretty deep.... I wear mine, too. Lady pulled out in front of me. My head hit her roofline, hard. Helmet saved me, too. It folded the front wheel under the frame and mashed in her driver's door. What did the most damage to her car was me jumping up and down on her hood screaming obscenities at her with references about her lineage. (Expletives deleted) |
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On 2008-03-25 02:28:08 -0400, WaIIy said:
A buddy of mine was buying a helmet a long time ago. He was trying to decide between the $20.00 helmet and the $50.00 helmet. I told him "Do you have a $20.00 head?" That's a pretty standard line. Way back when helmets only cost that much, the cheap ones were polycarbonate or some such plastic: Good for one bounce; subsequent ones were a crap shoot. Mine were all heavy fiberglass and full, not half. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Larry opined:
At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c; Back when I started riding the DOT rules were to test helmets for a max of 3mph crash protection. That consisted of dropping a small weight on it from some specified height and if it didn't crack or deform past a certain point then it passed and was "DOT certified". Basically that meant that any helmet made from something stronger than paper mache' passed. To be effective in any sort of real crash (other than for road rash) it is the thickness and properties of the padding inside that determines its protective effectiveness. I talked to a surgeon once who said that with helmets on in a hard smack the person usually dies from brain swelling - which he said would be orders of magnitude more painful and just as deadly as crushing the skull, or, they would die from a broken neck from the helmet rebounding from the stored energy. Ya pays yer dues, ya takes yer chances... |
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"Red" wrote in message ... Larry opined: At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c; Back when I started riding the DOT rules were to test helmets for a max of 3mph crash protection. That consisted of dropping a small weight on it from some specified height and if it didn't crack or deform past a certain point then it passed and was "DOT certified". Basically that meant that any helmet made from something stronger than paper mache' passed. To be effective in any sort of real crash (other than for road rash) it is the thickness and properties of the padding inside that determines its protective effectiveness. I talked to a surgeon once who said that with helmets on in a hard smack the person usually dies from brain swelling - which he said would be orders of magnitude more painful and just as deadly as crushing the skull, or, they would die from a broken neck from the helmet rebounding from the stored energy. Ya pays yer dues, ya takes yer chances... Might be smarter to just outlaw motorcycles. There goes that Harley Davidson 'Rocker' and the 'Indian Chief' I was trying to decide on. |
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Red wrote in :
Ya pays yer dues, ya takes yer chances... What I STILL can't figure out is why we're allowed to buy a plastic Honda Reflex motorcycle and drive it on our roads....while the damned bribed government bureaucrats refuse to let me import a tiny European car that gets 85mpg in the city "because it's not safe". How ABSURD! |
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Don White wrote:
"Red" wrote in message ... Larry opined: At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c; Back when I started riding the DOT rules were to test helmets for a max of 3mph crash protection. That consisted of dropping a small weight on it from some specified height and if it didn't crack or deform past a certain point then it passed and was "DOT certified". Basically that meant that any helmet made from something stronger than paper mache' passed. To be effective in any sort of real crash (other than for road rash) it is the thickness and properties of the padding inside that determines its protective effectiveness. I talked to a surgeon once who said that with helmets on in a hard smack the person usually dies from brain swelling - which he said would be orders of magnitude more painful and just as deadly as crushing the skull, or, they would die from a broken neck from the helmet rebounding from the stored energy. Ya pays yer dues, ya takes yer chances... Might be smarter to just outlaw motorcycles. There goes that Harley Davidson 'Rocker' and the 'Indian Chief' I was trying to decide on. Or outlaw helmets and let nature take its course! Gordon |
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