Does anyone have a really truly brilliant system for getting into the water
and out of the water from their boat.

I'm particularly curious about canoe sterns etc but I'm interested in how
anyone manages to exit in particular.

Clip lines? Small davits?

Explanation of systems would be most illuminating also ie how do you go
about it - what sequence.

I've just come back from a night dive onto a new-to-the-dive-industry
charter boat which has a platform at the rear but he hasn't put a ladder on.
It was difficult in the dark to take everything off and hand it up then
(with fins still on) make a seal-like burst onto the back. Lucky it was
very calm tonight, with only a little surface chop and no swell.

It got me to thinking a bit about future exits when I get my boat.

For those who are interested, this was where I was tonight:

http://www.scubaonline.com.au/showdivesite.asp?intID=22

thanks

Hoges in WA

"Hoges in WA" wrote:

Does anyone have a really truly brilliant system for getting into the water
and out of the water from their boat.

I'm particularly curious about canoe sterns etc but I'm interested in how
anyone manages to exit in particular.

Clip lines? Small davits?

Since we have a swim ladder on the stern and no platform (which even
if we had a platform I really could not manage without steps), we
usually get the dinghy down off the davits. I put my stuff in the
dinghy and then climb the ladder. Then we can pull the dinghy back up
to the davits and get the stuff from inside. If you are not certain
of your ability to pull the dinghy up evenly so things don't spill
out, it would be wise to attach the stuff somehow to the dinghy.

We also have a cloth ladder (made from tapes or straps) which goes
from one side of the dinghy at about the oarlock level across the top
of the tubes (this isn't the portabote), and goes down into the water.
I can put my feet into the rungs (without fins) and hold onto the part
that is over the top of the dinghy. I pull with my arms and push with
my feet and I can get into the dinghy from the water.

I have to have some kind of rung to step on that is in the water.

When I've tried to get into the portabote from the water, I swamp it.
So I'm in it, but it is floating (with me sitting in it) just below
the surface of the water.

Explanation of systems would be most illuminating also ie how do you go
about it - what sequence.

I've just come back from a night dive onto a new-to-the-dive-industry
charter boat which has a platform at the rear but he hasn't put a ladder on.
It was difficult in the dark to take everything off and hand it up then
(with fins still on) make a seal-like burst onto the back. Lucky it was
very calm tonight, with only a little surface chop and no swell.

It got me to thinking a bit about future exits when I get my boat.

For those who are interested, this was where I was tonight:

http://www.scubaonline.com.au/showdivesite.asp?intID=22

thanks

Hoges in WA

"Hoges in WA" wrote in
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Does anyone have a really truly brilliant system for getting into the
water and out of the water from their boat.

I'm particularly curious about canoe sterns etc but I'm interested in
how anyone manages to exit in particular.

Hoges in WA

I simply dive off of my RIB dingy. Loading it and unloading it isn't a
problem from the main boat. It's easy to get onto the dinghy with a strong
kick.

My Freedom 40/40 has a swim platform and ladder, so I can easily dive off
of that. Most of the time however, we use the dinghy to get to dive sites
as opposed to the big boat. Friends who don't have swim platforms drop
their gear into the water and jump into the water with giant stride.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

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"Hoges in WA" wrote in
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Does anyone have a really truly brilliant system for getting into the
water and out of the water from their boat.

I'm particularly curious about canoe sterns etc but I'm interested in
how anyone manages to exit in particular.

Hoges in WA

I simply dive off of my RIB dingy. Loading it and unloading it isn't a
problem from the main boat. It's easy to get onto the dinghy with a
strong
kick.

My Freedom 40/40 has a swim platform and ladder, so I can easily dive off
of that. Most of the time however, we use the dinghy to get to dive sites
as opposed to the big boat. Friends who don't have swim platforms drop
their gear into the water and jump into the water with giant stride.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

I used to dive off a RIB in the early 80s when I was at university. We were
a new uni and there wasn't much money around for clubs but we managed to get
some cash for the Avon inflatable. Then, I weighed about 70kgs. Getting in
was a bit like being a pike on the hunt -straight up and over the sides.
Now, I'm afraid, it's a lot more like a damn walrus clambering onto the
platform.

Hoges in WA

"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
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Does anyone have a really truly brilliant system for getting into the
water and out of the water from their boat.

I'm particularly curious about canoe sterns etc but I'm interested in how
anyone manages to exit in particular.

Clip lines? Small davits?

Explanation of systems would be most illuminating also ie how do you go
about it - what sequence.

I've just come back from a night dive onto a new-to-the-dive-industry
charter boat which has a platform at the rear but he hasn't put a ladder
on. It was difficult in the dark to take everything off and hand it up
then (with fins still on) make a seal-like burst onto the back. Lucky it
was very calm tonight, with only a little surface chop and no swell.

It got me to thinking a bit about future exits when I get my boat.

For those who are interested, this was where I was tonight:

http://www.scubaonline.com.au/showdivesite.asp?intID=22

thanks

Hoges in WA



Wow... that would make me get back into diving. I've never been to the Perth
area, just eastern Aus (didn't have much time though).


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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
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Does anyone have a really truly brilliant system for getting into the
water and out of the water from their boat.

I'm particularly curious about canoe sterns etc but I'm interested in how
anyone manages to exit in particular.

Clip lines? Small davits?

Explanation of systems would be most illuminating also ie how do you go
about it - what sequence.

I've just come back from a night dive onto a new-to-the-dive-industry
charter boat which has a platform at the rear but he hasn't put a ladder
on. It was difficult in the dark to take everything off and hand it up
then (with fins still on) make a seal-like burst onto the back. Lucky it
was very calm tonight, with only a little surface chop and no swell.

It got me to thinking a bit about future exits when I get my boat.

For those who are interested, this was where I was tonight:

http://www.scubaonline.com.au/showdivesite.asp?intID=22

thanks

Hoges in WA



Wow... that would make me get back into diving. I've never been to the
Perth area, just eastern Aus (didn't have much time though).


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www.sailnow.com


NOT good sailing - nowhere to go really. Very ancient flat land.

Diving, however, is a different story altogether. There's a chappy from your
country who's crossed the Pacific in a Beneteau 45 currently advertising for
crew for a trip from Mooloolaba in Queensland to all the way around to my
place and he's surfing and diving all the way. I'm tempted to quit work and
join up.
Hoges in WA

"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
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Wow... that would make me get back into diving. I've never been to the
Perth area, just eastern Aus (didn't have much time though).

NOT good sailing - nowhere to go really. Very ancient flat land.

Diving, however, is a different story altogether. There's a chappy from
your country who's crossed the Pacific in a Beneteau 45 currently
advertising for crew for a trip from Mooloolaba in Queensland to all the
way around to my place and he's surfing and diving all the way. I'm
tempted to quit work and join up.
Hoges in WA


Shows you how much I know about sailing in that part of the world.... I just
figured Perth was great sailing. By nowhere to go, do you mean there are no
good anchorages within reach?

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
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Wow... that would make me get back into diving. I've never been to the
Perth area, just eastern Aus (didn't have much time though).

NOT good sailing - nowhere to go really. Very ancient flat land.

Diving, however, is a different story altogether. There's a chappy from
your country who's crossed the Pacific in a Beneteau 45 currently
advertising for crew for a trip from Mooloolaba in Queensland to all the
way around to my place and he's surfing and diving all the way. I'm
tempted to quit work and join up.
Hoges in WA


Shows you how much I know about sailing in that part of the world.... I
just figured Perth was great sailing. By nowhere to go, do you mean there
are no good anchorages within reach?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Yes. If you're in Perth, the capital of WA, you can go to Rottnest, some 12
miles away, with 300,000 other people. If you're lucky, you can get a
mooring. Maybe. After you've gone in the ballot for it. Rotto is a good
place to dive - something like 13+ wrecks and all shallow. However, because
it's the ONLY option for Perth, it's crowded.
North you can go to the Abrolhos but its a couple of days away.
South you can come down my way but there's nothing to explore - no rivers,
no bays, just long stretches of beach inshore with a prevailing south-wester
pushing you onto it.

Way further up north it gets more interesting but there's not much in the
way of shore-based support. Down south, you have to get to around Albany
before it's interesting also but it's pretty hairy weather down that way.

This is the principal reason why I do not yet have a boat - I'd be going
nowhere and what I want to see is half a world away. I'll be buying in
Florida and heading up the east coast of the US. I'll probably keep it for
when I return, but it'll simply be a floating RV, because the baby boomers
are going to clog the roads with caravans before long and I can still anchor
out in the places they're staying in.
Hoges in WA

"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
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Wow... that would make me get back into diving. I've never been to the
Perth area, just eastern Aus (didn't have much time though).

NOT good sailing - nowhere to go really. Very ancient flat land.

Diving, however, is a different story altogether. There's a chappy from
your country who's crossed the Pacific in a Beneteau 45 currently
advertising for crew for a trip from Mooloolaba in Queensland to all the
way around to my place and he's surfing and diving all the way. I'm
tempted to quit work and join up.
Hoges in WA


Shows you how much I know about sailing in that part of the world.... I
just figured Perth was great sailing. By nowhere to go, do you mean there
are no good anchorages within reach?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Yes. If you're in Perth, the capital of WA, you can go to Rottnest, some
12 miles away, with 300,000 other people. If you're lucky, you can get a
mooring. Maybe. After you've gone in the ballot for it. Rotto is a good
place to dive - something like 13+ wrecks and all shallow. However,
because it's the ONLY option for Perth, it's crowded.
North you can go to the Abrolhos but its a couple of days away.
South you can come down my way but there's nothing to explore - no rivers,
no bays, just long stretches of beach inshore with a prevailing
south-wester pushing you onto it.

Way further up north it gets more interesting but there's not much in the
way of shore-based support. Down south, you have to get to around Albany
before it's interesting also but it's pretty hairy weather down that way.

This is the principal reason why I do not yet have a boat - I'd be going
nowhere and what I want to see is half a world away. I'll be buying in
Florida and heading up the east coast of the US. I'll probably keep it
for when I return, but it'll simply be a floating RV, because the baby
boomers are going to clog the roads with caravans before long and I can
still anchor out in the places they're staying in.
Hoges in WA




There's always Diego Garcia. LOL


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www.sailnow.com

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Hoges in WA



Buy a European boat made to board from being backed up to a quay.

The Amel, for instance, has a nicely engineerred ladder that becomes a
boarding ramp if laid out horizontally, but becomes a step ladder if set
down vertically. It has mahogany (of course) panels that fit in it.

It stores along the rail at sea, starboard side aft. A pin acts as a pivot
and you just pivot it over the stern for stern-to docking or you can drop
it over the stern and the bottom two steps go into the water for swim
boarding or diving.

The really funny one was a friend's Hatteras 56 FBMY. It had a boarding
platform, but that was 30' below the stern of the outdoor aft salon deck
and there was no way to get down to it unless you could step onto it off a
dock alongside. I never found any kind of ladder it may have originally
come with..... It was a great diving platform, though, off the beach. He
had a rope ladder to reboard from in the water over the side like a
ship....

He nearly had a heart attack when I filled the tanks at $1.10/gallon way
back then. He'd be dead if I filled it on his credit card, now!....(c;
As soon as I got all its systems up and running, spending weekends in its
bilge with 32VDC power, engines, 2 gensets, 5 Air conditioners, various
water pumps (2), air compressors (1), hydraulic stabilizers, etc......HE
SOLD IT for $592K...........dammit. I just got where I could take a break
and lay back to enjoy it! They were way tired of hauling everything down
the dock trying to liveaboard it. I would be, too.