Cruising in a submarine
 

I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

Cruising in a submarine
 

Ralf Dieholt wrote:

... I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

This is old news. Submarines have been cruising the oceans for a very long
time now. You just haven't seen them.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

Cruising in a submarine
 

Ralf Dieholt wrote:

... I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

This is old news. Submarines have been cruising the oceans for a very long
time now. You just haven't seen them.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

Cruising in a submarine
 

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:47:20 -0500, "Armond Perretta"
wrote:

Ralf Dieholt wrote:

... I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

This is old news. Submarines have been cruising the oceans for a very long
time now. You just haven't seen them.

I have. But then, that's my job.

Steve

Cruising in a submarine
 

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:47:20 -0500, "Armond Perretta"
wrote:

Ralf Dieholt wrote:

... I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

This is old news. Submarines have been cruising the oceans for a very long
time now. You just haven't seen them.

I have. But then, that's my job.

Steve

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Steven Shelikoff"
"Armond Perretta": wrote:
: : Ralf Dieholt wrote:
:
: ... I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
: billions of $$$ to earn.
:
: This is old news. Submarines have been cruising the oceans for a very long
: time now. You just haven't seen them.
:
: I have. But then, that's my job.
:
: Steve

Yep. I can just see me settin' there on the screen porch with my pina colada
watchin' all the perty fishes...
....oh, waitaminnit.
Ralf - a sub is a black sewer pipe with people in. It'd be a rare thing to find
someone who'd pay for the pleasure more than once.
It's a tough place to earn a living - not a pleasure cruise by any definition.
A special respect is earned by those who serve in the undersea services.

Dave
Been there, done that. USN 26 years.

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Steven Shelikoff"
"Armond Perretta": wrote:
: : Ralf Dieholt wrote:
:
: ... I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
: billions of $$$ to earn.
:
: This is old news. Submarines have been cruising the oceans for a very long
: time now. You just haven't seen them.
:
: I have. But then, that's my job.
:
: Steve

Yep. I can just see me settin' there on the screen porch with my pina colada
watchin' all the perty fishes...
....oh, waitaminnit.
Ralf - a sub is a black sewer pipe with people in. It'd be a rare thing to find
someone who'd pay for the pleasure more than once.
It's a tough place to earn a living - not a pleasure cruise by any definition.
A special respect is earned by those who serve in the undersea services.

Dave
Been there, done that. USN 26 years.

Cruising in a submarine
 

In article ,
says...
I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.



99% of the world under the oceans is dark and empty. The bottom
is sand, mud and rocks. Not much of interest there for pleasure
cruisers.

The interesting part of the underwater world exists in the
upper 50 meters within a few dozen miles of the shoreline.
That part is pretty easily accessible to folks on surface
vessels.

Even more problematic is the fact that, where interesting
underwater life is abundant, visibility is may be only
a few tens of meters. An underwater cruise would be
about as scenic as cruising the inside passage when every
day is foggy!

Much more practical might be to have an ROV with a fiber-optic
video link follow along with those adventurous enough to go
scuba diving on a tropical reef. Then you could sit back
in a nice lounge with a cold drink and watch the blonde from
cabin 3-C adjust her buouyancy compensators on a big-screen
TV!


Mark Borgerson




Mark Borgerson

Cruising in a submarine
 

In article ,
says...
I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.



99% of the world under the oceans is dark and empty. The bottom
is sand, mud and rocks. Not much of interest there for pleasure
cruisers.

The interesting part of the underwater world exists in the
upper 50 meters within a few dozen miles of the shoreline.
That part is pretty easily accessible to folks on surface
vessels.

Even more problematic is the fact that, where interesting
underwater life is abundant, visibility is may be only
a few tens of meters. An underwater cruise would be
about as scenic as cruising the inside passage when every
day is foggy!

Much more practical might be to have an ROV with a fiber-optic
video link follow along with those adventurous enough to go
scuba diving on a tropical reef. Then you could sit back
in a nice lounge with a cold drink and watch the blonde from
cabin 3-C adjust her buouyancy compensators on a big-screen
TV!


Mark Borgerson




Mark Borgerson

Cruising in a submarine
 

In article ,
says...


I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

When I was a teenager in Washington, D.C., we used to drive down to
Haynes Point to watch the submarine races on the Potomac River.

Cruising in a submarine
 

In article ,
says...


I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

When I was a teenager in Washington, D.C., we used to drive down to
Haynes Point to watch the submarine races on the Potomac River.

Cruising in a submarine
 

Hey...I took the 'Nautilus submarine tour at Disney World in '93.
that was colourful and interesting. :-)

David Ward wrote in message
ink.net...

Ralf - a sub is a black sewer pipe with people in. It'd be a rare thing
to find
someone who'd pay for the pleasure more than once.
It's a tough place to earn a living - not a pleasure cruise by any
definition.
A special respect is earned by those who serve in the undersea services.

Dave
Been there, done that. USN 26 years.

Cruising in a submarine
 

Hey...I took the 'Nautilus submarine tour at Disney World in '93.
that was colourful and interesting. :-)

David Ward wrote in message
ink.net...

Ralf - a sub is a black sewer pipe with people in. It'd be a rare thing
to find
someone who'd pay for the pleasure more than once.
It's a tough place to earn a living - not a pleasure cruise by any
definition.
A special respect is earned by those who serve in the undersea services.

Dave
Been there, done that. USN 26 years.

Cruising in a submarine
 

Hmm...went "cruising" for 16 hours on USS Pennsylvania (SSBN 735) with
a friend of mine who was a chief radioman aboard her. I got to LISTEN
to the ocean on the main passive sonar, which was fascinating. The
only time I got to "see" the ocean was when we were surfaced and 7 of
us at a time climbed up the 4 long ladders in the sail up to the tiny
observation deck in the top of her massive sail. Her bow always
remains under water when she's surfaced. a huge bow wave climbs up
over her sleek hull all the way to the base of the sail below us and a
giant whitewater water falls is created when this huge wave falls off
the rounded deck port and starboard creating a whitewater wake that
can be seen way, way back astern of her fin.

I would not trade THAT day cruising for all the days in any kind of
pleasure craft in my life. I was very humbled by the absolute
professionalism I witnessed the entire 16 hours we were at sea. It
was the experience of a lifetime......



On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
wrote:

I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.


Larry W4CSC

No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH!
Kirk Out.....

Cruising in a submarine
 

Hmm...went "cruising" for 16 hours on USS Pennsylvania (SSBN 735) with
a friend of mine who was a chief radioman aboard her. I got to LISTEN
to the ocean on the main passive sonar, which was fascinating. The
only time I got to "see" the ocean was when we were surfaced and 7 of
us at a time climbed up the 4 long ladders in the sail up to the tiny
observation deck in the top of her massive sail. Her bow always
remains under water when she's surfaced. a huge bow wave climbs up
over her sleek hull all the way to the base of the sail below us and a
giant whitewater water falls is created when this huge wave falls off
the rounded deck port and starboard creating a whitewater wake that
can be seen way, way back astern of her fin.

I would not trade THAT day cruising for all the days in any kind of
pleasure craft in my life. I was very humbled by the absolute
professionalism I witnessed the entire 16 hours we were at sea. It
was the experience of a lifetime......



On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
wrote:

I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.


Larry W4CSC

No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH!
Kirk Out.....

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Don White" wrote
: Hey...I took the 'Nautilus submarine tour at Disney World in '93.
: that was colourful and interesting. :-)
:
Ahhhhhh hhahahahhahaaaaa. I'm bustin' a gut.
Now come help me clean the coffee offa m' keyboard.

Dave

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Don White" wrote
: Hey...I took the 'Nautilus submarine tour at Disney World in '93.
: that was colourful and interesting. :-)
:
Ahhhhhh hhahahahhahaaaaa. I'm bustin' a gut.
Now come help me clean the coffee offa m' keyboard.

Dave

Cruising in a submarine
 

On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
wrote:

I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.
I was aboard a submarine once with large viewing ports that was about
80 feet long. This boat was designed for taking tourists to view the
reefs around Grand Cayman. I suspect that the slow speed and great
cost of such a vessel would make for a pretty small market as a
private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.

Joe

Cruising in a submarine
 

On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
wrote:

I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.
I was aboard a submarine once with large viewing ports that was about
80 feet long. This boat was designed for taking tourists to view the
reefs around Grand Cayman. I suspect that the slow speed and great
cost of such a vessel would make for a pretty small market as a
private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.

Joe

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Joe Della Barba " wrote in message ...
: On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
: wrote:
:
: I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
: ugly world we see each day.
:
: So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
: billions of $$$ to earn.
: I was aboard a submarine once with large viewing ports that was about
: 80 feet long. This boat was designed for taking tourists to view the
: reefs around Grand Cayman. I suspect that the slow speed and great
: cost of such a vessel would make for a pretty small market as a
: private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
: on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
: after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
: get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.
:
: Joe
I bet it would be even cheaper if someone eliminated the boat entirely
and came up with some type of self contained underwater breathing
apparatus...
....so waterworld visitors would be spared the experience of meeting
close up someone who just discovered how claustrophobic they
really are.

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Joe Della Barba " wrote in message ...
: On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
: wrote:
:
: I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
: ugly world we see each day.
:
: So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
: billions of $$$ to earn.
: I was aboard a submarine once with large viewing ports that was about
: 80 feet long. This boat was designed for taking tourists to view the
: reefs around Grand Cayman. I suspect that the slow speed and great
: cost of such a vessel would make for a pretty small market as a
: private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
: on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
: after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
: get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.
:
: Joe
I bet it would be even cheaper if someone eliminated the boat entirely
and came up with some type of self contained underwater breathing
apparatus...
....so waterworld visitors would be spared the experience of meeting
close up someone who just discovered how claustrophobic they
really are.

Cruising in a submarine
 

In article . net,
says...

"Joe Della Barba " wrote in message ...
: On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
: wrote:
:
: I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
: ugly world we see each day.
:
: So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
: billions of $$$ to earn.
: I was aboard a submarine once with large viewing ports that was about
: 80 feet long. This boat was designed for taking tourists to view the
: reefs around Grand Cayman. I suspect that the slow speed and great
: cost of such a vessel would make for a pretty small market as a
: private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
: on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
: after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
: get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.
:
: Joe
I bet it would be even cheaper if someone eliminated the boat entirely
and came up with some type of self contained underwater breathing
apparatus...
...so waterworld visitors would be spared the experience of meeting
close up someone who just discovered how claustrophobic they
really are.



Been there, done that. There's a minor problem with nitrogen
solubility! ;-)


Mark Borgerson

Cruising in a submarine
 

In article . net,
says...

"Joe Della Barba " wrote in message ...
: On 22 Feb 2004 00:38:19 -0800, (Ralf Dieholt)
: wrote:
:
: I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
: ugly world we see each day.
:
: So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
: billions of $$$ to earn.
: I was aboard a submarine once with large viewing ports that was about
: 80 feet long. This boat was designed for taking tourists to view the
: reefs around Grand Cayman. I suspect that the slow speed and great
: cost of such a vessel would make for a pretty small market as a
: private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
: on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
: after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
: get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.
:
: Joe
I bet it would be even cheaper if someone eliminated the boat entirely
and came up with some type of self contained underwater breathing
apparatus...
...so waterworld visitors would be spared the experience of meeting
close up someone who just discovered how claustrophobic they
really are.



Been there, done that. There's a minor problem with nitrogen
solubility! ;-)


Mark Borgerson

Cruising in a submarine
 

private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.

Joe

PMY Feb '04:
New Design, M-147. 482' superyacht.

Two helicoptor hanger bay, 9 decks and...

"[a] sub exits the hull through the bottom, so the owner can come and go in
complete privacy"


Yes, money DOES buy everything- even your own submarine docking port!

Cruising in a submarine
 

private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.

Joe

PMY Feb '04:
New Design, M-147. 482' superyacht.

Two helicoptor hanger bay, 9 decks and...

"[a] sub exits the hull through the bottom, so the owner can come and go in
complete privacy"


Yes, money DOES buy everything- even your own submarine docking port!

Cruising in a submarine
 

[posted and mailed]

(Ralf Dieholt) wrote in
om:

I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

This site will make you happy:

http://www.ussubs.com/

Cruising in a submarine
 

[posted and mailed]

(Ralf Dieholt) wrote in
om:

I think the world under the oceans is much more beautiful than the
ugly world we see each day.

So I think submarine cruises are a huge market for the future with
billions of $$$ to earn.

This site will make you happy:

http://www.ussubs.com/

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Aaron" wrote in message
. 44...
private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.

Joe

PMY Feb '04:
New Design, M-147. 482' superyacht.

Two helicoptor hanger bay, 9 decks and...

"[a] sub exits the hull through the bottom, so the owner can come and go
in
complete privacy"


Yes, money DOES buy everything- even your own submarine docking port!


Trouble is you keep getting James Bond climbing in there at night and
annoying you

Cruising in a submarine
 

"Aaron" wrote in message
. 44...
private yacht. It would be FAR cheaper to put a small battery-only sub
on a conventional yacht as deck cargo and use it for touring the reefs
after you anchor. Best of both worlds that way, plus you could always
get Discovery Channel charters when you were low on $$$.

Joe

PMY Feb '04:
New Design, M-147. 482' superyacht.

Two helicoptor hanger bay, 9 decks and...

"[a] sub exits the hull through the bottom, so the owner can come and go
in
complete privacy"


Yes, money DOES buy everything- even your own submarine docking port!


Trouble is you keep getting James Bond climbing in there at night and
annoying you