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Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
I will be moving to Freeport, Grand Bahama this summer and I'm
thinking of purchasing a 32-34 feet / 600 HP, twin engine powerboat cruiser. I have sailing experience (39-45 feet monohulls and cats) and used to be a deck officer in the merchant marine but I'm not that experienced on powerboats that size and the passage from Florida to Grand Bahama. I know the Gulf Stream can have a big impact on sailboats but how about a 34 feet powerboat cruiser with a cruising speed of 30-40 knts? Is it fairly safe to make this trip? How long does it take for example from West Palm Beach (or from somewhere in the area) to Freeport? 4-5 hours? |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
On Feb 26, 12:17*pm, AGrigorof wrote:
I will be moving to Freeport, Grand Bahama this summer and I'm thinking of purchasing a 32-34 feet / 600 HP, twin engine powerboat cruiser. I have sailing experience (39-45 feet monohulls and cats) and used to be a deck officer in the merchant marine but I'm not that experienced on powerboats that size and the passage from Florida to Grand Bahama. I know the Gulf Stream can have a big impact on sailboats but how about a 34 feet powerboat cruiser with a cruising speed of 30-40 knts? Is it fairly safe to make this trip? How long does it take for example from West Palm Beach (or from somewhere in the area) to Freeport? 4-5 hours? It shouldn't be a difficult trip, but you do need to watch the weather. I know people that make the trip in a 23 foot center console with twin 150's, they just wait for a good forcast. Just give that boat a few local "shake down" trips first, just to work the bugs out. |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
On Feb 26, 7:17 am, AGrigorof wrote:
I... used to be a deck officer in the merchant marine but... How long does it take for example from West Palm Beach (or from somewhere in the area) to Freeport? 4-5 hours? ... At some point in your Merchant Marine training they taught you that Time = Distance / Speed. NOAA should have a downloadable chart of the area though I've lost the link. Can anyone help with that? Good luck, -- Tom. |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
AGrigorof wrote:
I will be moving to Freeport, Grand Bahama this summer and I'm thinking of purchasing a 32-34 feet / 600 HP, twin engine powerboat cruiser. I have sailing experience (39-45 feet monohulls and cats) and used to be a deck officer in the merchant marine but I'm not that experienced on powerboats that size and the passage from Florida to Grand Bahama. I know the Gulf Stream can have a big impact on sailboats but how about a 34 feet powerboat cruiser with a cruising speed of 30-40 knts? Is it fairly safe to make this trip? How long does it take for example from West Palm Beach (or from somewhere in the area) to Freeport? 4-5 hours? It's fairly safe although you should be aware of the weather and not try to go when there is a north wind. My SIL goes from Miami to the Bahamas all the time in a small fishing boat. He currently has a catamaran about 27 feet with two big engines (250s?). He took the family from Miami to Grand Bahama and then the second day went to the Abacos for a week. On the way back, they did it all in one day. I've seen people on little fishing boats go across when the Gulf Stream was really rough and not think anything of it. And that's what the folks in the DEA etc use. |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
On Feb 26, 1:53*pm, " wrote:
On Feb 26, 7:17 am, AGrigorof wrote: I... used to be a deck officer in the merchant marine but... How long does it take for example from West Palm Beach (or from somewhere in the area) to Freeport? 4-5 hours? ... At some point in your Merchant Marine training they taught you that Time = Distance / Speed. *NOAA should have a downloadable chart of the area though I've lost the link. *Can anyone help with that? Good luck, -- Tom. I'm not sure what is a typical cruising speed in this waters. On a flat lake it would be easy to tell how long it takes to go from point A to point B but crossing the Gulf Stream is different. In straight line, from Freeport to West Palm Beach there are approx. 90 miles so with a 30 mph cruising speed (I don't know why all the boat vendors give the crusing speed in mph instead of knots... maybe because lots of people don't know the difference between an international mile and a nautical mile) it means that I can make it in approx. 3 hours. But can I achieve that crusing speed in typical Gulf Stream waters with a 32-34 feet boat? |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:33:41 -0800 (PST), AdisonGrio
wrote: I'm not sure what is a typical cruising speed in this waters. On a flat lake it would be easy to tell how long it takes to go from point A to point B but crossing the Gulf Stream is different. In straight line, from Freeport to West Palm Beach there are approx. 90 miles so with a 30 mph cruising speed (I don't know why all the boat vendors give the crusing speed in mph instead of knots... maybe because lots of people don't know the difference between an international mile and a nautical mile) it means that I can make it in approx. 3 hours. But can I achieve that crusing speed in typical Gulf Stream waters with a 32-34 feet boat? Some days yes, many days no. Most people try to leave early in the morning at sunrise to try and get a head start before the thermals kick in. |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
On Feb 26, 9:33 am, AdisonGrio wrote:
... In straight line, from Freeport to West Palm Beach there are approx. 90 miles so with a 30 mph cruising speed... Are you sure? I think it's more like 75 nautical miles. I don't know why all the boat vendors give the crusing speed in mph instead of knots... 'Cause they're shorter. Sometimes I think some vendors "confuse" kilometers with miles too. I don't have any local knowledge of the area. FWIW, the route is in the area of variables so you ought to be able to find a chunk of light wind to make the crossing if you are willing to wait a bit. If the wind is blowing against the stream don't go. Generally thermal breezes are lightest just before dawn, so an early start going and a very early start returning might be worth considering. -- Tom. |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
The winds in the Gulf Stream generally clock around clockwise and you want to
leave optimally when they are out of the south east to west. Otherwise you will have a wind in opposition to the strong current causing very steep and uncomfortable waves. There are many summer days when the stream is flat as a pancake, but you cannot count on that. Having a power boat is an advantage as your crossing time is much faster than most sail boats. Be sure to allow for the northerly set of the stream in your navigation. It's about a 50 mile crossing from Florida to Bimini, and at 35 knots, you should make it there in less than 2 hours. You can either make a stop in Bimini or pass to the north of it straight through to Freeport. Top up your water and fuel, which is very expensive in the Bahamas. Sherwin AGrigorof wrote: I will be moving to Freeport, Grand Bahama this summer and I'm thinking of purchasing a 32-34 feet / 600 HP, twin engine powerboat cruiser. I have sailing experience (39-45 feet monohulls and cats) and used to be a deck officer in the merchant marine but I'm not that experienced on powerboats that size and the passage from Florida to Grand Bahama. I know the Gulf Stream can have a big impact on sailboats but how about a 34 feet powerboat cruiser with a cruising speed of 30-40 knts? Is it fairly safe to make this trip? How long does it take for example from West Palm Beach (or from somewhere in the area) to Freeport? 4-5 hours? |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
sherwindu wrote:
The winds in the Gulf Stream generally clock around clockwise and you want to leave optimally when they are out of the south east to west. Otherwise you will have a wind in opposition to the strong current causing very steep and uncomfortable waves. There are many summer days when the stream is flat as a pancake, but you cannot count on that. Having a power boat is an advantage as your crossing time is much faster than most sail boats. Be sure to allow for the northerly set of the stream in your navigation. It's about a 50 mile crossing from Florida to Bimini, and at 35 knots, you should make it there in less than 2 hours. You can either make a stop in Bimini or pass to the north of it straight through to Freeport. Top up your water and fuel, which is very expensive in the Bahamas. Sherwin All good advice. If you start from West Palm/Lake Worth, you will be going against the stream to get to Grand Bahama. Sailboats do this and even from Ft. Pierce, but starting from south of Miami is easier IMHO. There is a current in the channel between Grand Bahama and the north end of Bimini which is going out toward the Gulf Stream. There is also a counter current to that current along the edges, just like in the Gulf Stream. A couple of other things. Freeport is not a place for small boats of any kind. The place where one usually goes is Lucaya. There are two marinas in Lucaya. The one on the left as you enter has mostly power boats, can be noisy and is in the heart of the action. The one on the right has most of the sailboats and is quieter at night. There's a water taxi to the other side (free I think), and you can walk out to the road and get a jitney bus into Freeport for about $1.00. They require that you pay for water as part of your dockage fee. But this is mostly water for washing the boat. Check the water before you put it into tanks for drinking. In Nassau the dock water is brackish and tastes like swimming pool water.. AGrigorof wrote: I will be moving to Freeport, Grand Bahama this summer and I'm thinking of purchasing a 32-34 feet / 600 HP, twin engine powerboat cruiser. I have sailing experience (39-45 feet monohulls and cats) and used to be a deck officer in the merchant marine but I'm not that experienced on powerboats that size and the passage from Florida to Grand Bahama. I know the Gulf Stream can have a big impact on sailboats but how about a 34 feet powerboat cruiser with a cruising speed of 30-40 knts? Is it fairly safe to make this trip? How long does it take for example from West Palm Beach (or from somewhere in the area) to Freeport? 4-5 hours? |
Powerboat trip from Grand Bahama to Florida
Thank you all for the good advice. It is clear now that such a trip
has to be started early and it may take half a day, depending on the weather. And of course, you need a boat that you can trust! As I mentioned, I will be living in Freeport (actually Lucaya) and I know about the marinas there - some are state of the art, some are let's say... affordable. We are a family of 5 and we're thinking that a powerboat is a much better alternative to reach Florida instead of a regular airflight (not sure if it's cheaper, we'll have to see how much gasoline is used to go back and forth). Of course, we will use to boat to get to the other islands as well (and maybe further down south). Adrian |
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