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From Wiki: A shipmate is literally a mate on one's own ship, ie. a member of the same crew. A sailor of the oceans and seas who demonstrates selfless dedication and loyalty, putting the crew, the ship and the mission above his/her self interests. So... Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
... From Wiki: A shipmate is literally a mate on one's own ship, ie. a member of the same crew. A sailor of the oceans and seas who demonstrates selfless dedication and loyalty, putting the crew, the ship and the mission above his/her self interests. So... Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? I've sailed with Doug and Bart, so I can put them in the first category. As to the second, it seems rather obvious. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message ... From Wiki: A shipmate is literally a mate on one's own ship, ie. a member of the same crew. A sailor of the oceans and seas who demonstrates selfless dedication and loyalty, putting the crew, the ship and the mission above his/her self interests. So... Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? I've sailed with Doug and Bart, so I can put them in the first category. As to the second, it seems rather obvious. Tha's just too cool... I don't know why, but it always surprises me to find people on the groups who have actually met face to face. |
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:58:42 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote: Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? Britney, and she might just be nuts enough to go. |
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:26:36 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: I've sailed with Doug and Bart, so I can put them in the first category. As to the second, it seems rather obvious. The last time I saw Doug he was racing up the Caloosahatchie River in a powerboat at close to 40 kts and leaving a wake. That was last Saturday. |
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On Feb 24, 4:58*pm, cavelamb himself wrote:
Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I also sail alone. I find the crew more reliable and enjoyable. On occasion I will take a few passangers. However they are PASSENGERS not crew. I also prefer to drink alone simply because I can not stand most drunks. I would neither sail with skip or Joe. Each for diffrent reasons however the outcome is mostlikly the same. I grew up a single child and find my company rather enjoyable. Bob |
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Bob wrote:
On Feb 24, 4:58 pm, cavelamb himself wrote: Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I hear you, but there sure as **** ain't no faster way to **** off most SCUBA folks than to voice this opinion. I also sail alone. I find the crew more reliable and enjoyable. On occasion I will take a few passangers. However they are PASSENGERS not crew. Huzzah! I also prefer to drink alone simply because I can not stand most drunks. You get better conversation too...... Cheers Marty |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:26:36 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: I've sailed with Doug and Bart, so I can put them in the first category. As to the second, it seems rather obvious. The last time I saw Doug he was racing up the Caloosahatchie River in a powerboat at close to 40 kts and leaving a wake. That was last Saturday. Was he being responsible for his wake? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Marty" wrote in message
... Bob wrote: On Feb 24, 4:58 pm, cavelamb himself wrote: Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I hear you, but there sure as **** ain't no faster way to **** off most SCUBA folks than to voice this opinion. I also sail alone. I find the crew more reliable and enjoyable. On occasion I will take a few passangers. However they are PASSENGERS not crew. Huzzah! I also prefer to drink alone simply because I can not stand most drunks. You get better conversation too...... Cheers Marty I've dived alone and I've sailed alone. I think sailing (or diving) with people or without them can have great benefits. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "cavelamb himself" wrote in message ... From Wiki: A shipmate is literally a mate on one's own ship, ie. a member of the same crew. A sailor of the oceans and seas who demonstrates selfless dedication and loyalty, putting the crew, the ship and the mission above his/her self interests. So... Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? I've sailed with Doug and Bart, so I can put them in the first category. As to the second, it seems rather obvious. Tha's just too cool... I don't know why, but it always surprises me to find people on the groups who have actually met face to face. I've met others, but I wouldn't sail with them... no, I'm not going to say who. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Feb 24, 7:35*pm, Marty wrote:
Bob wrote: For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I hear you, but there sure as **** ain't no faster way to **** off most SCUBA folks than to voice this opinion. Ya, its nothing more than a SPORT scuba certification organizations in bed with equipment sales staff types. change the training to maximize equipment sales. Then they criticize you saying, your dangerous and will kill yourself. The first time i certified for sports scuba was 1967.... at age 12. Didnt need much then. Christ, I saw a bunch of bubble head scubie dos a coupel months ago and I could barely recognize a human under all the **** they had dangling and draped over their bodies. Needless to say my boat reflects the minimalist approach to yachting. KISS...... why spend your time fixing **** that only your WIFE demanded if SHE was going to step foot on that DAMN boat. Well, I do have a head. Its much safer than hanging it over the side durring heavy weather. Id go NUTZ if I had to have a reffer, water maker, 4000KW inverter to run a Fing hair dryer and air conditioner???!?!?!?! O, an then spend my time fixing it tooo. Noooooooo. Bob |
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cavelamb himself wrote: From Wiki: A shipmate is literally a mate on one's own ship, ie. a member of the same crew. A sailor of the oceans and seas who demonstrates selfless dedication and loyalty, putting the crew, the ship and the mission above his/her self interests. So... Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? An experienced young man. I would make the tea. And who would you avoid at all costs? Wilbur (shudder) -- Molesworth |
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Bob wrote:
On Feb 24, 7:35*pm, Marty wrote: Bob wrote: For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I hear you, but there sure as **** ain't no faster way to **** off most SCUBA folks than to voice this opinion. Ya, its nothing more than a SPORT scuba certification organizations in bed with equipment sales staff types. change the training to maximize equipment sales. Then they criticize you saying, your dangerous and will kill yourself. The first time i certified for sports scuba was 1967.... at age 12. Didnt need much then. They didn't have much equipment then. That was when I did my first dive. My instructions were - "Do a back roll off the boat, and don't hold your breath." I don't know how one got certified - I took a course, but all I got was a card signed by the shop owner. It was a week (at night) in a pool and then a checkout dive on the reef. I was older than 12 - I guess I was about 30 years old. I was pregnant with my third child. They wouldn't let me dive pregnant now of course. Christ, I saw a bunch of bubble head scubie dos a coupel months ago and I could barely recognize a human under all the **** they had dangling and draped over their bodies. Needless to say my boat reflects the minimalist approach to yachting. KISS...... why spend your time fixing **** that only your WIFE demanded if SHE was going to step foot on that DAMN boat. Well, I do have a head. Its much safer than hanging it over the side durring heavy weather. Id go NUTZ if I had to have a reffer, water maker, 4000KW inverter to run a Fing hair dryer and air conditioner???!?!?!?! O, an then spend my time fixing it tooo. Noooooooo. Bob The boat is what my Bob wants, and he does what he wants with it. I don't help with maintenance, nor do I complain about it. I haven't used a hair dryer in years, we don't have A/C, and we don't have a water maker. (We don't need it - we carry more than enough water). We have a reffer, but for short trips, we just bring a cooler aboard. |
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On 2008-02-24 19:58:42 -0500, cavelamb himself said:
Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? Many, including but not limited to Rosalie, Roger, Skip & Lydia, and others I've enjoyed conversations with over the years. I might have to exclude Peggie as my lady's a bit worried about my having too close a relationship with any lady who I can comfortably talk with about poop. ;-) BTW, from past experience, if I want to race, I'll accept any Lazer racer, sight unseen. And who would you avoid at all costs? I had a list all made up but I wouldn't have to avoid Wilbur and such as they don't ship out; they're at most dock queens. I hardly expect to meet such on the water unless I'm cruising amongst the dregs sitting in the backwaters full-time. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:57:08 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: The last time I saw Doug he was racing up the Caloosahatchie River in a powerboat at close to 40 kts and leaving a wake. That was last Saturday. Was he being responsible for his wake? No, he was riding in my boat. :-) There were no sail boats in sight and power boaters wake each other all the time with no one getting very excited about it. |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message ... From Wiki: A shipmate is literally a mate on one's own ship, ie. a member of the same crew. A sailor of the oceans and seas who demonstrates selfless dedication and loyalty, putting the crew, the ship and the mission above his/her self interests. So... Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? And who would you avoid at all costs? ================================= In the Cave with the Lamb .. interesting question.. I'd sail along with Roger. He is smart, I'm not. I'd hang near Skip, so I could borrow his diving thingy, I always wanted to try that. I'd invite Wilbur to sail in the fleet, just to hear him **** everyone off. In fact, I'd sail along with about everyone here. Can't you just see Wilbur and Skip on the same boat .. too funny. Skip: "Wilbur, your an asshole" Wilbur: "Skip, you shouldn't be on the water, your a danger to yourself" Then Roger will pipe in from his Strider:: "Boys, I believe we are over the wreck of the Hesperus". Me:? I will be busy looking up the meaning of "halyard" .. and "sheet" and "anchor" and Bow/stern/starboard/.. aft... on and on. |
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:11:19 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:58:42 -0600, cavelamb himself wrote: Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? Britney, and she might just be nuts enough to go. oh yeah...what I wouldn't do to be stuck at sea with a drug-whacked narcissist for weeks on end...can you say the word "chum"...I knew you could...it's a beautiful day in the neighbourhood...a beautiful day for catching food...woncha be...woncha be my.. |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote
And who would you avoid at all costs? I'd never set foot on a boat that would allow someone like me aboard. |
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Ernest Scribbler wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote And who would you avoid at all costs? I'd never set foot on a boat that would allow someone like me aboard. I always did love Groucho. -- Dan Best - (559) 970-9858, Fresno, CA 93704 B-2/75 1977-1979 Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean" http://triciajean192.home.comcast.net |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:15:26 -0800 (PST), Bob said: For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I wouldn't dive alone on a bet. Navy training I guess. (Of course at this point I prolly wouldn't dive at all. It's been about 35 years since I did.) I sold a sailboat to a young guy, back around early 90's. He gave me a deposit, was supposed to pick up the equipment and give me the balance the following week.. That weekend he died in a diving accident. Why? Because he stayed down by himself when his partner gave him the signal that she was low on air. He got caught on some wire on the bottom of Gloucester harbor or thereabouts. Dead.. There is a reason not to dive alone. |
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cavelamb himself wrote:
From Wiki: A shipmate is literally a mate on one's own ship, ie. a member of the same crew. A sailor of the oceans and seas who demonstrates selfless dedication and loyalty, putting the crew, the ship and the mission above his/her self interests. So... Who on this list would you prefer to ship with? What Jere said. He was the first one I thought of when you posed this question. But in general anyone outside my immediate family who has a positive attitude is probably going to be a good shipmate. (I exclude my immediate family because a) none of them participate in this newsgroup b) even when they don't have a positive attitude, I would still sail with them because I love them. And who would you avoid at all costs? The other side of the coin - people who can do nothing but find fault and sneer (whether they do it politely using a large non-blasphemous and non-scatological vocabulary or not) are not good prospects as a shipmate. |
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"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in message news:nrBwj.21347$6t3.15750@trndny07... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:15:26 -0800 (PST), Bob said: For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I wouldn't dive alone on a bet. Navy training I guess. (Of course at this point I prolly wouldn't dive at all. It's been about 35 years since I did.) I sold a sailboat to a young guy, back around early 90's. He gave me a deposit, was supposed to pick up the equipment and give me the balance the following week.. That weekend he died in a diving accident. Why? Because he stayed down by himself when his partner gave him the signal that she was low on air. He got caught on some wire on the bottom of Gloucester harbor or thereabouts. Dead.. There is a reason not to dive alone. I found that out the hard way a long time ago. It was in the Mediterranean and I joined a diving school. We had done the pool based course and were off an island doing our first real dives.We were all low on air so we came up and the others got out.. I was still breathing Ok and had not activated the reserve supply so the instructor let me go down again. I was a novice and did not realise he should not have done so. I went down about 20' and when it became hard to draw breath I reached to pull down the lever to activate the reserve, only to find it was already down, having presumably caught something while I was in the boat so all the air was gone, including the reserve. .. I kicked off the bottom and just made it up-probably got a little bit more air from the bottle as the pressure fell but the fresh air felt really good. Another hard learned lesson-and it was a well regarded diving school too, not a cowboy outfit.. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:57:08 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: The last time I saw Doug he was racing up the Caloosahatchie River in a powerboat at close to 40 kts and leaving a wake. That was last Saturday. Was he being responsible for his wake? No, he was riding in my boat. :-) There were no sail boats in sight and power boaters wake each other all the time with no one getting very excited about it. Sound like the perfect situation! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Edgar" wrote in message
... "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in message news:nrBwj.21347$6t3.15750@trndny07... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:15:26 -0800 (PST), Bob said: For the same reason that once enjoyed sport scuba alone,,, I wouldn't dive alone on a bet. Navy training I guess. (Of course at this point I prolly wouldn't dive at all. It's been about 35 years since I did.) I sold a sailboat to a young guy, back around early 90's. He gave me a deposit, was supposed to pick up the equipment and give me the balance the following week.. That weekend he died in a diving accident. Why? Because he stayed down by himself when his partner gave him the signal that she was low on air. He got caught on some wire on the bottom of Gloucester harbor or thereabouts. Dead.. There is a reason not to dive alone. I found that out the hard way a long time ago. It was in the Mediterranean and I joined a diving school. We had done the pool based course and were off an island doing our first real dives.We were all low on air so we came up and the others got out.. I was still breathing Ok and had not activated the reserve supply so the instructor let me go down again. I was a novice and did not realise he should not have done so. I went down about 20' and when it became hard to draw breath I reached to pull down the lever to activate the reserve, only to find it was already down, having presumably caught something while I was in the boat so all the air was gone, including the reserve. . I kicked off the bottom and just made it up-probably got a little bit more air from the bottle as the pressure fell but the fresh air felt really good. Another hard learned lesson-and it was a well regarded diving school too, not a cowboy outfit.. I had a similar experience with my old double steel 52s with an old wire reserve line on them. Ran out of air (got really hard to breathe) with my double hose at about 60 feet deep off Catalina. I had one real 1/2 breath left, but it was pretty easy to get to the top... just followed the medium-size bubbles and exhaled slowly the whole way. I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, but I did remove the wire from the valve. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dan Best" wrote in message
... Ernest Scribbler wrote: "cavelamb himself" wrote And who would you avoid at all costs? I'd never set foot on a boat that would allow someone like me aboard. I always did love Groucho. -- Dan Best - (559) 970-9858, Fresno, CA 93704 B-2/75 1977-1979 Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean" http://triciajean192.home.comcast.net I think he's channelling Woody Allen... Nice boat btw.. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote
http://triciajean192.home.comcast.net Nice boat btw.. Yeah, but what's he doin' with *my* number? http://home.comcast.net/~blizzard3/g...versailing.jpg |
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On Feb 25, 7:48*am, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote: " That weekend he died in a diving accident. *Why? *Because he stayed down by himself when his partner gave him the signal that she was low on air. He got caught on some wire on the bottom of Gloucester harbor or thereabouts. Dead.. There is a reason not to dive alone. Hello, Looks lie we strayed off topic but just couldnt let your words go un anwered............. You say there is not reason ot dive alone......................... well your examle is exactly why I still dive alone. The dumb **** killed himself and if the buddy was there I suspect that the buddy's chance of getting drug down just increased many fold. Lets see a common "buddy dive." Start on the beach they take 10 times longer to get their **** on, but forget somthing and have to borrow it. They flounder around and step on my mask and bread the lense. Whine for help getting their fins of cause their so Fing fat or out of shape. Then they get in the water cant get heavy cause they dont know the first thing about bouancy controll so then once off the surface they keep bumping into me, then crash on the bottom and stir up all the silt makeing for zero visibility, then cause they used all their air with that boyancy thingy and huffing and puffing cause theyre freaked out and out of shape burn though a tank in 20 min and start tuging at me to go to the surface with them cause "were buddies" ANd thats a good dive. Now when under water and they feak out and start grabbing my regulator and crawling all over me cause they are paniced thats a whole diffent other story. Then I do my best to make them a "passive victom" So keep your buddy system. Its a pain in the ass and life threatning at times. To the USN Diver........... Very professional bunch. My only complaint with those guys is it takes 20 to do the job of 4. Lets see how many do you need to do a No D surface air jump. Main Diver 1, and 1 tender. Standby Diver 1 and 1 tender. ONe guy in the water, One guy tending, Standby Diver running the air box, other tender ready to run airbox if Standby Diver needs to go in the water. Now on the other hand if it were a navy job................. bob |
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Ernest Scribbler wrote:
I'd never set foot on a boat that would allow someone like me aboard. Then I wrote: I always did love Groucho. Then Capt. JG wrote: I think he's channelling Woody Allen... Nice boat btw.. Then Ernest Scribbler wrote: Yeah, but what's he doin' with *my* number? http://home.comcast.net/~blizzard3/g...versailing.jpg I'd always thought that Goucho Marx was the originater of “I’d never be a member of a club that’d have me as a member.” I was surprised that a quick search on it found it being attributed not only him, but to W. C. Fields and Woody Allen as well. I guess great minds think alike. And thanks, Capt. JG for the compliment. I agree. It's a very nice boat and it's a rare time that I find myself aboard and at some point don't tell myself, "Gawd, I love this boat!" As far as using Ernest Scribbler's number, I've no idea which of us had it first. Tricia Jean was built in 1979 (the 192'nd Tayana 37 built), but I've only had her since 2001, though we've logged close to 20,000 nm in her during that time. Yours is also a might fine looking vessel. Built for a different purpose, but none-the-less, a great example of the class. Regards, -- Dan Best s/v Tricia Jean, Tayana 37 #192 http://home.comcast.net/~triciajean192/ |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On Feb 25, 7:48 am, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote: " That weekend he died in a diving accident. Why? Because he stayed down by himself when his partner gave him the signal that she was low on air. He got caught on some wire on the bottom of Gloucester harbor or thereabouts. Dead.. There is a reason not to dive alone. Hello, Looks lie we strayed off topic but just couldnt let your words go un anwered............. You say there is not reason ot dive alone......................... well your examle is exactly why I still dive alone. The dumb **** killed himself and if the buddy was there I suspect that the buddy's chance of getting drug down just increased many fold. Lets see a common "buddy dive." Start on the beach they take 10 times longer to get their **** on, but forget somthing and have to borrow it. They flounder around and step on my mask and bread the lense. Whine for help getting their fins of cause their so Fing fat or out of shape. Then they get in the water cant get heavy cause they dont know the first thing about bouancy controll so then once off the surface they keep bumping into me, then crash on the bottom and stir up all the silt makeing for zero visibility, then cause they used all their air with that boyancy thingy and huffing and puffing cause theyre freaked out and out of shape burn though a tank in 20 min and start tuging at me to go to the surface with them cause "were buddies" ANd thats a good dive. Now when under water and they feak out and start grabbing my regulator and crawling all over me cause they are paniced thats a whole diffent other story. Then I do my best to make them a "passive victom" So keep your buddy system. Its a pain in the ass and life threatning at times. bob Part of your responsibility is to choose a buddy responsibly not just hope for a responsible. You don't start off with a challenging dive with a new buddy. Diving a lone is much more dangerous over all. Same is true for long-distance sailing. You don't choose whomever shows at the dock for something like that. I teach novice sailors, so you don't have much choice for day sailing. But, you do have a choice otherwise. I single hand my sailboat quite a bit. It's not because finding a sailing buddy would be dangerous. It's just not convenient necessarily. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message
et... "Capt. JG" wrote http://triciajean192.home.comcast.net Nice boat btw.. Yeah, but what's he doin' with *my* number? http://home.comcast.net/~blizzard3/g...versailing.jpg Don't complain... whatever he did increased the water line. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dan Best" wrote in message
... Ernest Scribbler wrote: I'd never set foot on a boat that would allow someone like me aboard. Then I wrote: I always did love Groucho. Then Capt. JG wrote: I think he's channelling Woody Allen... Nice boat btw.. Then Ernest Scribbler wrote: Yeah, but what's he doin' with *my* number? http://home.comcast.net/~blizzard3/g...versailing.jpg I'd always thought that Goucho Marx was the originater of “I’d never be a member of a club that’d have me as a member.” I was surprised that a quick search on it found it being attributed not only him, but to W. C. Fields and Woody Allen as well. I guess great minds think alike. And thanks, Capt. JG for the compliment. I agree. It's a very nice boat and it's a rare time that I find myself aboard and at some point don't tell myself, "Gawd, I love this boat!" As far as using Ernest Scribbler's number, I've no idea which of us had it first. Tricia Jean was built in 1979 (the 192'nd Tayana 37 built), but I've only had her since 2001, though we've logged close to 20,000 nm in her during that time. Yours is also a might fine looking vessel. Built for a different purpose, but none-the-less, a great example of the class. Regards, -- Dan Best s/v Tricia Jean, Tayana 37 #192 http://home.comcast.net/~triciajean192/ You're welcome. I think WC Fields wins by a nose. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote:
I've sailed with Doug and Bart, so I can put them in the first category. As to the second, it seems rather obvious. I've met Bart but not sailed with him. I'm hoping that will change this season. Also hoping to get in some more West Coast sailing. Wayne.B wrote: The last time I saw Doug he was racing up the Caloosahatchie River in a powerboat at close to 40 kts and leaving a wake. That was last Saturday. What about the part where he was zig-zagging to hit manatees & laughing maniacally? 40 knots feels pretty fast, too! Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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On Feb 25, 2:16*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message Part of your responsibility is to choose a buddy responsibly not just hope for a responsible. INteresting...... so: 1) I must have a buddy 2) it my responsibility to chose a "responsible and skilled buddy" Does that mean I must find a person with similar skills... abilities as myself????? Humm, now where would I find some one like that????? There is one thing I need to know. You say, ".....Diving a lone is much more dangerous over all...." To that I must ask WHY??? And are are saying that diving with a buddy over all out weighs the hazards? If that is the case why use SCUBA at all??? I say SCUBA is flawed and extramily unsafe compared to surface supplied with a topside crew including recomression chamber and operator... Oh, and also including 02 treatment tables to dept of releaf. So should I just avoid SCUBA altogether because it simply an unsafe method to put a diver to depth??? Bob You don't start off with a challenging dive with a new buddy. Diving a lone is much more dangerous over all. Same is true for long-distance sailing. You don't choose whomever shows at the dock for something like that. I teach novice sailors, so you don't have much choice for day sailing. But, you do have a choice otherwise. I single hand my sailboat quite a bit. It's not because finding a sailing buddy would be dangerous. It's just not convenient necessarily. -- "j" ganz |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On Feb 25, 2:16 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message Part of your responsibility is to choose a buddy responsibly not just hope for a responsible. INteresting...... so: 1) I must have a buddy JG: I never said "must." 2) it my responsibility to chose a "responsible and skilled buddy" JG: Yes. Does that mean I must find a person with similar skills... abilities as myself????? Humm, now where would I find some one like that????? JG: No. It means that you should be responsible for the person you pick. Ummm... local dive shops, craigslist, perhaps you can rent one on ebay. LOL There is one thing I need to know. You say, ".....Diving a lone is much more dangerous over all...." To that I must ask WHY??? And are are saying that diving with a buddy over all out weighs the hazards? JG: I think you need to do some research to confirm this for yourself. Does SCUBA alone outweigh the hazards of with a buddy? Only you can ultimately answer that for yourself. If that is the case why use SCUBA at all??? I say SCUBA is flawed and extramily unsafe compared to surface supplied with a topside crew including recomression chamber and operator... Oh, and also including 02 treatment tables to dept of releaf. So should I just avoid SCUBA altogether because it simply an unsafe method to put a diver to depth??? JG: This sounds like a rant... I SCUBA although not recently. For example, I was and will remain always conservative when it comes to the tables. I used to not use a computer, but finally bought want a few years ago. It was a great help, but I don't like to get even close to it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:03:59 -0600, cavelamb himself said: I don't know why, but it always surprises me to find people on the groups who have actually met face to face. I've sailed with Charlie and Bart, and once met Bobsprit. I'd ask about the bs encounter, but I'm kinda afraid to know.. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dan Best" wrote
As far as using Ernest Scribbler's number, I've no idea which of us had it first. Tricia Jean was built in 1979 (the 192'nd Tayana 37 built), but I've only had her since 2001, though we've logged close to 20,000 nm in her during that time. I'll have to concede on both counts. My Gloucester is an '86 model, new to me last year, and we've logged around 20,000 yards. Yours is also a might fine looking vessel. Built for a different purpose, but none-the-less, a great example of the class. Thanks. |
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:16:53 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: The last time I saw Doug he was racing up the Caloosahatchie River in a powerboat at close to 40 kts and leaving a wake. That was last Saturday. What about the part where he was zig-zagging to hit manatees & laughing maniacally? Heh, left that out, thought it would sound irresponsible. :-) |
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On 2008-02-25 17:15:39 -0500, Dan Best said:
I was surprised that a quick search on it found it being attributed not only him, but to W. C. Fields and Woody Allen as well. I guess great minds think alike. In that field, the rule is "Steal the best." -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:44:02 -0500, said: Charlie and Bart? Don't you mean, Salty and Red? :') A tiger doesn't change its spots even with a new sock on its fist. Seems to me it's a sign of a small, petty mind that wants to control everything, even the nicknames people chose for Usenet. Get a life, dood! Ain't you got something better to do? Like maybe you should get a date with Capt. JG since you both act the same. Greg |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:27:50 -0800 (PST), Bob said: 1) I must have a buddy 2) it my responsibility to chose a "responsible and skilled buddy" Does that mean I must find a person with similar skills... abilities as myself????? Humm, now where would I find some one like that????? Now you know why I have not done SCUBA since leaving the Navy. Certainly it isn't all that hard finding another gay who loves to go down deep. Try Jon Boy! Wilbur Hubbard |
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