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Backyard Renegade February 16th 04 05:04 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty

Steve February 16th 04 05:15 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
I suspect that most marinas have a minimum length/fee and if your boat is
smaller than that, you pay the minimum anyway..

That is the way it is for a seperate dingy tie up at my marina.. 10ftX$5=$50
month.. Normally I tie up my dingy under my bow or stern quarter, however
last summer I was anchoring out and needed a place to land my dingy and park
my vehicle. The charged for 10 ft even though my dingy was only 8ft.


--
My opinion and experience. FWIW

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve February 16th 04 05:15 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
I suspect that most marinas have a minimum length/fee and if your boat is
smaller than that, you pay the minimum anyway..

That is the way it is for a seperate dingy tie up at my marina.. 10ftX$5=$50
month.. Normally I tie up my dingy under my bow or stern quarter, however
last summer I was anchoring out and needed a place to land my dingy and park
my vehicle. The charged for 10 ft even though my dingy was only 8ft.


--
My opinion and experience. FWIW

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Rosalie B. February 16th 04 08:32 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
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(Backyard Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


Atlantis Marina on Paradise Island in the Bahamas has a minimum of 40
feet. That's the only one I know of that has a minimum length
allowed. I think they do that to keep the riffraff out g

Otherwise, it's usually $x per foot with a minimum fee of $X. So
$1.00/ft with a minimum of $25 would mean that an 18 foot boat would
pay $25, and not that they wouldn't TAKE an 18 foot boat.

However it depends on how you measure your boat. Assuming it has an
outboard, if you include that in the length and round up, you'd
probably have 21 feet.

grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 16th 04 08:32 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
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(Backyard Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


Atlantis Marina on Paradise Island in the Bahamas has a minimum of 40
feet. That's the only one I know of that has a minimum length
allowed. I think they do that to keep the riffraff out g

Otherwise, it's usually $x per foot with a minimum fee of $X. So
$1.00/ft with a minimum of $25 would mean that an 18 foot boat would
pay $25, and not that they wouldn't TAKE an 18 foot boat.

However it depends on how you measure your boat. Assuming it has an
outboard, if you include that in the length and round up, you'd
probably have 21 feet.

grandma Rosalie

Joe Della Barba February 16th 04 08:38 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
On 16 Feb 2004 09:04:54 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


At my marina you pay for the size of the SLIP, not the boat. Up to you
as to what size boat you want to put into it. They couldn't care less
if you want to pay for a 50 foot slip for a jetski.

Joe

Joe Della Barba February 16th 04 08:38 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
On 16 Feb 2004 09:04:54 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


At my marina you pay for the size of the SLIP, not the boat. Up to you
as to what size boat you want to put into it. They couldn't care less
if you want to pay for a 50 foot slip for a jetski.

Joe

Keith Hughes February 16th 04 09:48 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
Joe Della Barba wrote:

At my marina you pay for the size of the SLIP, not the boat.

Up to you
as to what size boat you want to put into it. They couldn't care less
if you want to pay for a 50 foot slip for a jetski.

Joe


Well, at my marina, you pay by whichever calculation method ends
up with the higher price. e.g., 25' boat in a 30' slip pays for
30', whereas a 32' boat shoehorned into a 30' slip (yep, it
happens) pays for 32'.

Keith Hughes


Keith Hughes February 16th 04 09:48 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
Joe Della Barba wrote:

At my marina you pay for the size of the SLIP, not the boat.

Up to you
as to what size boat you want to put into it. They couldn't care less
if you want to pay for a 50 foot slip for a jetski.

Joe


Well, at my marina, you pay by whichever calculation method ends
up with the higher price. e.g., 25' boat in a 30' slip pays for
30', whereas a 32' boat shoehorned into a 30' slip (yep, it
happens) pays for 32'.

Keith Hughes


Gould 0738 February 16th 04 10:39 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty



Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?

May be different back East, but out our way you pay for the length of the slip
at so many dollars per foot per month. Nobody seems to care if you don't use
the entire slip. If you want a 60-foot slip for a 9-foot dinghy, no problem
since you'll be paying for all 60 feet. (In a really crowded marina, I could
see somebody asking the guy with the dinghy to take a more appropriately sized
slip to reduce the waiting list for 60-footers).

Usually, the problem runs the other way.
A guy buys a "4055" Pileknocker and asks the harbormaster for a "40 -foot"
slip.
By the time you add a 4 foot bow pulpit and a six foot swimstep, the boat
actually measures out about 51 feet. Everybody walking down the central float
has to dodge the anchor hanging into the walkway, and the boat sticks well out
into the fairway aft. Cheapskate ought to rent a 50-foot slip instead of a 40
and get something that actually fits his boat. :-)

Gould 0738 February 16th 04 10:39 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty



Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?

May be different back East, but out our way you pay for the length of the slip
at so many dollars per foot per month. Nobody seems to care if you don't use
the entire slip. If you want a 60-foot slip for a 9-foot dinghy, no problem
since you'll be paying for all 60 feet. (In a really crowded marina, I could
see somebody asking the guy with the dinghy to take a more appropriately sized
slip to reduce the waiting list for 60-footers).

Usually, the problem runs the other way.
A guy buys a "4055" Pileknocker and asks the harbormaster for a "40 -foot"
slip.
By the time you add a 4 foot bow pulpit and a six foot swimstep, the boat
actually measures out about 51 feet. Everybody walking down the central float
has to dodge the anchor hanging into the walkway, and the boat sticks well out
into the fairway aft. Cheapskate ought to rent a 50-foot slip instead of a 40
and get something that actually fits his boat. :-)

Rodney Myrvaagnes February 17th 04 05:18 AM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
On 16 Feb 2004 09:04:54 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


Marinas around here often have 30-foot minima, but that doesn't mean
you have to have a 30 foot boat. It means you have to pay for 30 feet
to get a slip.

Ask which they mean.

In either case, you could make a bowsprit for docking out of a mop
handle to bring it up to length. :-)



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Hawg Polo?" . . . "Hawg Polo"

Rodney Myrvaagnes February 17th 04 05:18 AM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
On 16 Feb 2004 09:04:54 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


Marinas around here often have 30-foot minima, but that doesn't mean
you have to have a 30 foot boat. It means you have to pay for 30 feet
to get a slip.

Ask which they mean.

In either case, you could make a bowsprit for docking out of a mop
handle to bring it up to length. :-)



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Hawg Polo?" . . . "Hawg Polo"

Rodney Myrvaagnes February 17th 04 05:18 AM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
On 16 Feb 2004 22:39:56 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:


Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?



Harrumph!! A yacht is a vessel used for the pleasure of its users, as
opposed to a commercial vessel. A Sunfish is as certain to be a yacht
as anything afloat.

OTOH, lunch boats that call themselves "yacht" are actually commercial
passenger vessels.

end of rant.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Hawg Polo?" . . . "Hawg Polo"

Rodney Myrvaagnes February 17th 04 05:18 AM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
On 16 Feb 2004 22:39:56 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:


Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?



Harrumph!! A yacht is a vessel used for the pleasure of its users, as
opposed to a commercial vessel. A Sunfish is as certain to be a yacht
as anything afloat.

OTOH, lunch boats that call themselves "yacht" are actually commercial
passenger vessels.

end of rant.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Hawg Polo?" . . . "Hawg Polo"

Backyard Renegade February 17th 04 05:11 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
(Gould 0738) wrote in message ...
I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty



Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?


That is what I was trying to ask. My question is, is there typically a
minimum size requirement for a vessel in order to join a club, or is
it just my friends club?
Scotty

Backyard Renegade February 17th 04 05:11 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
(Gould 0738) wrote in message ...
I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty



Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?


That is what I was trying to ask. My question is, is there typically a
minimum size requirement for a vessel in order to join a club, or is
it just my friends club?
Scotty

Gould 0738 February 17th 04 05:46 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
That is what I was trying to ask. My question is, is there typically a
minimum size requirement for a vessel in order to join a club, or is
it just my friends club?
Scotty


Yes, there is usually a minimum size vessel required in order to join a yacht
club.

While the stereotypical image of a yacht club is a group of white pants, blue
blazer, brass buttoned old coots passing grey poupon from mega-yacht to
mega-yacht- many clubs do specify a minimum size limit that doesn't require a
relatively huge investment in a boat. Many of the minimums are at or around the
20-foot mark.

Best explanation I ever heard for the minimum size requirement was "We want our
members to own a boat capable of partiipating in club cruises and events."



Gould 0738 February 17th 04 05:46 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
That is what I was trying to ask. My question is, is there typically a
minimum size requirement for a vessel in order to join a club, or is
it just my friends club?
Scotty


Yes, there is usually a minimum size vessel required in order to join a yacht
club.

While the stereotypical image of a yacht club is a group of white pants, blue
blazer, brass buttoned old coots passing grey poupon from mega-yacht to
mega-yacht- many clubs do specify a minimum size limit that doesn't require a
relatively huge investment in a boat. Many of the minimums are at or around the
20-foot mark.

Best explanation I ever heard for the minimum size requirement was "We want our
members to own a boat capable of partiipating in club cruises and events."



Steve February 17th 04 07:45 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
The local yacht club here, Shelton WA , doesn't have a size limitation but
does require that prospective members have a boat large enough to have
sleeping accomodations aboard and prospective members must first participate
in a number of club cruises and activities afloat and ashore. Once you are a
member, it doesn't seem to matter if you keep your boat anylonger..

I wish some would get rid of there Marina Queens and give up their slips (to
someone like me, who has been on the waiting list for over 5 years).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve February 17th 04 07:45 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
The local yacht club here, Shelton WA , doesn't have a size limitation but
does require that prospective members have a boat large enough to have
sleeping accomodations aboard and prospective members must first participate
in a number of club cruises and activities afloat and ashore. Once you are a
member, it doesn't seem to matter if you keep your boat anylonger..

I wish some would get rid of there Marina Queens and give up their slips (to
someone like me, who has been on the waiting list for over 5 years).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Rick & Linda Bernard February 17th 04 09:44 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
The yacht clubs that I am familar with have a size limitation on your walet.
Too small you can't join.


"Steve" wrote in message
...
The local yacht club here, Shelton WA , doesn't have a size limitation but
does require that prospective members have a boat large enough to have
sleeping accomodations aboard and prospective members must first

participate
in a number of club cruises and activities afloat and ashore. Once you are

a
member, it doesn't seem to matter if you keep your boat anylonger..

I wish some would get rid of there Marina Queens and give up their slips

(to
someone like me, who has been on the waiting list for over 5 years).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Rick & Linda Bernard February 17th 04 09:44 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
The yacht clubs that I am familar with have a size limitation on your walet.
Too small you can't join.


"Steve" wrote in message
...
The local yacht club here, Shelton WA , doesn't have a size limitation but
does require that prospective members have a boat large enough to have
sleeping accomodations aboard and prospective members must first

participate
in a number of club cruises and activities afloat and ashore. Once you are

a
member, it doesn't seem to matter if you keep your boat anylonger..

I wish some would get rid of there Marina Queens and give up their slips

(to
someone like me, who has been on the waiting list for over 5 years).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Ken Heaton February 17th 04 10:41 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 

"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om...
snipped bit
Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht

club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept

in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?


That is what I was trying to ask. My question is, is there typically a
minimum size requirement for a vessel in order to join a club, or is
it just my friends club?
Scotty


There is no minimum size at our club (Dobson Yacht Club), in fact you don't
need to have a boat, you can be a member just to come to the bar and drink
if you like. Same over at the Royal Cape Breton Yacht Club http://rcbyc.com
There is a minimum size to race in most local races and regattas, 20' I
believe.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca



Ken Heaton February 17th 04 10:41 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 

"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om...
snipped bit
Are you confusing the minimum size boat required to join a yacht

club -often in
the low 20's- some "yacht" :-) with a some requirement that a boat kept

in a
particular slip must be at least a certain size?


That is what I was trying to ask. My question is, is there typically a
minimum size requirement for a vessel in order to join a club, or is
it just my friends club?
Scotty


There is no minimum size at our club (Dobson Yacht Club), in fact you don't
need to have a boat, you can be a member just to come to the bar and drink
if you like. Same over at the Royal Cape Breton Yacht Club http://rcbyc.com
There is a minimum size to race in most local races and regattas, 20' I
believe.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca



Gould 0738 February 18th 04 03:52 AM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
The yacht clubs that I am familar with have a size limitation on your walet.
Too small you can't join.


Clubs come in all price ranges, and you get what you pay for.

The most expensive club around here can cost 5 figures to join, depending on
your age. Same club will bill you the difference between what you spend in the
bar and dining room each month and a mandatory minimum. Dues are in addition,
and not cheap either. On the plus side, the club has probably a dozen or more
outstation facilities throughout Puget Sound and British Columbia.

Other clubs cost a few hundred bucks to join and a dues after that are $100-200
a year.

If you consider how far $200 goes at West Marine these days, membership in a
fun yacht club can be a bargain. :-)



Gould 0738 February 18th 04 03:52 AM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
The yacht clubs that I am familar with have a size limitation on your walet.
Too small you can't join.


Clubs come in all price ranges, and you get what you pay for.

The most expensive club around here can cost 5 figures to join, depending on
your age. Same club will bill you the difference between what you spend in the
bar and dining room each month and a mandatory minimum. Dues are in addition,
and not cheap either. On the plus side, the club has probably a dozen or more
outstation facilities throughout Puget Sound and British Columbia.

Other clubs cost a few hundred bucks to join and a dues after that are $100-200
a year.

If you consider how far $200 goes at West Marine these days, membership in a
fun yacht club can be a bargain. :-)



Backyard Renegade February 19th 04 05:34 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote in message . ..
On 16 Feb 2004 09:04:54 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


Marinas around here often have 30-foot minima, but that doesn't mean
you have to have a 30 foot boat. It means you have to pay for 30 feet
to get a slip.

Ask which they mean.

In either case, you could make a bowsprit for docking out of a mop
handle to bring it up to length. :-)



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Hawg Polo?" . . . "Hawg Polo"


You are right though, a well thought pulpit could make the difference ;)

Backyard Renegade February 19th 04 05:34 PM

Marinas and minimum boat lengths?
 
Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote in message . ..
On 16 Feb 2004 09:04:54 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

I am about to embark on a new boat adventure. I heard that many clubs
and such have minimum lengths for boats too. For instance, my friend
has to have a boat with a minimum length of 20 feet or 21 I don't
remember, to have a slip at his marina. The reason I ask is I am
trying to decide on what size to get. Most of my boating will be
trailer boating, and I had been looking between 18-20 feet. However,
if in the future I decide (read "can afford") to have my boat in a
marina, I don't want to lose out over a foot or two. Do your marinas
have minimum limits and what are they? Thanks, Scotty


Marinas around here often have 30-foot minima, but that doesn't mean
you have to have a 30 foot boat. It means you have to pay for 30 feet
to get a slip.

Ask which they mean.

In either case, you could make a bowsprit for docking out of a mop
handle to bring it up to length. :-)



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Hawg Polo?" . . . "Hawg Polo"


You are right though, a well thought pulpit could make the difference ;)


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