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bc February 17th 04 05:44 AM

Suzuki Outboards
 
From my experience - Suzuki outboards SUCK in salt water. Worse than
anything else I've ever owned.


On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:14:29 GMT, Sailing Fan wrote:

CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long,
long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to
be expected. Today there are some very well rated and very
environmentally friendly cars made by Suzuki. You don't see Exxon-Mobil
suing because the vehicles don't use enough fuel?
For the most any application, Suzuki outboards are worth considering as
a good powerplant for your boat.
Because CU is posturing for litigation against Suzuki, this is no reason
to take sides, as you and CU suggest.

Peter
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Messing In Boats wrote:
While I believe that Suzuki makes a very good outboard motor, I would
hesitate to recommend one to a prospective buyer after reading about
their "scorched-earth" litigation tactics dealing with Consumer Reports.

It seems that back in 1988 CR gave the Suzuki Samurai an unacceptable
rating after finding it had a tendancy to tip over while turning, a
quality I would find alarming in a motor vehicle. Read the March 2004
issue of Consumer Reports to get their side.

Based upon this information, I would hesitate to recommend the purchase
of any Suzuki product for fear of facing these tactics should one have
any product liability dealings with the firm.

Capt. jeff




David Ward February 17th 04 12:38 PM

Suzuki Outboards
 

"bc" wrote in message ...
: From my experience - Suzuki outboards SUCK in salt water. Worse than
: anything else I've ever owned.
:
:
By how much does the performance degrade as salinity increases? My
understanding was that the type of water only changed the maintenance
requirements.

Dave



David Ward February 17th 04 12:38 PM

Suzuki Outboards
 

"bc" wrote in message ...
: From my experience - Suzuki outboards SUCK in salt water. Worse than
: anything else I've ever owned.
:
:
By how much does the performance degrade as salinity increases? My
understanding was that the type of water only changed the maintenance
requirements.

Dave



bb February 17th 04 02:32 PM

Suzuki Outboards
 
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:44:21 -0800, bc wrote:

From my experience - Suzuki outboards SUCK in salt water. Worse than
anything else I've ever owned.


And what is your experience with Suzuki outboards in sal****er?

bb

bb February 17th 04 02:32 PM

Suzuki Outboards
 
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:44:21 -0800, bc wrote:

From my experience - Suzuki outboards SUCK in salt water. Worse than
anything else I've ever owned.


And what is your experience with Suzuki outboards in sal****er?

bb

Brian Whatcott February 17th 04 06:10 PM

Suzuki Outboards
 
On 17 Feb 2004 00:03:54 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long,
long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to


There often appears to some editorial bias
in the CU findings. I commented on the
silly disparity between late 1980's ratings on identical Chevy and Toyota
vehicles made in the same plant to identical specs, but I have some across an
anecdotal item that seems to suggest that CU continues to give some imports
"extra credit" based on nameplate alone:



I'm glad I'm not in CU's position. `Reliability' is a difficult
quality to observe or visualize, or even measure - until after the
fact......

Some Japanese designs put plugs or ignition in double jointed
acrobats' reach - and deny them to regular people or so it seems.
That's just like some US designs - but you'll never know - because you
never need to open the Japanese lid.
But parts prices are way high if you do need 'em.

I have this image of production line workers submitting suggestions to
make things better - and having Japanese engineers act on them.
This idea of not looking for the credit may go along with this image,
I suspect....

Brian W

Brian Whatcott February 17th 04 06:10 PM

Suzuki Outboards
 
On 17 Feb 2004 00:03:54 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long,
long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to


There often appears to some editorial bias
in the CU findings. I commented on the
silly disparity between late 1980's ratings on identical Chevy and Toyota
vehicles made in the same plant to identical specs, but I have some across an
anecdotal item that seems to suggest that CU continues to give some imports
"extra credit" based on nameplate alone:



I'm glad I'm not in CU's position. `Reliability' is a difficult
quality to observe or visualize, or even measure - until after the
fact......

Some Japanese designs put plugs or ignition in double jointed
acrobats' reach - and deny them to regular people or so it seems.
That's just like some US designs - but you'll never know - because you
never need to open the Japanese lid.
But parts prices are way high if you do need 'em.

I have this image of production line workers submitting suggestions to
make things better - and having Japanese engineers act on them.
This idea of not looking for the credit may go along with this image,
I suspect....

Brian W

Sailing Fan February 18th 04 01:27 AM

Suzuki Outboards
 
And the conclusion is...

Suzuki outboards have nothing to do with Suzuki Samurai's.
The motors are certainly worth considering.


Sailing Fan February 18th 04 01:27 AM

Suzuki Outboards
 
And the conclusion is...

Suzuki outboards have nothing to do with Suzuki Samurai's.
The motors are certainly worth considering.


Clams Canino February 18th 04 01:49 AM

Suzuki Outboards
 
In the motorcycle world we had a saying.

"Friends don't let friends drive Suzuki's" :p

-W

"Sailing Fan" wrote in message
...
And the conclusion is...

Suzuki outboards have nothing to do with Suzuki Samurai's.
The motors are certainly worth considering.





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