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Peggie, question
Peggie;
I have been lusting after the "Sea era" head at your suggestion, when I ran across 7 used heads. They appear to be Raritan Atlantes. The word "Raritan" in stamped on the back of the bowl. One piece porcelain bowl, just as it appears in the catalogue I have. The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). I wasn't sure what I was looking at at the store, so I went home and looked at the web site. Of course the exploded parts diagram isn't available, neither is the brochure ("not available on this server"). Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. I will probably go down and get a better look tomorrow. I still don't know what's missing, and what the worst case scenario is on getting them installed and working. Your opinion, please. |
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The exploded parts diagrams are on the Raritan website, in .pdf
format...which means you need Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to access it. However, unless you have a computer that came off the Ark, you can download Acrobat for free--in fact, from the Raritan site. If that's more than your computer can do, I'll fax 'em to you. Watch for a copy of this reply in your email that has a replyable address. I'm a bit skeptical that all the "innards" are really there for that price...but hey, it's definitely worth checking out. Be aware, though, that the Atlantes has a FULL size elongated bowl that's 19" front to back...you'll also need enough room for your knees in front of it while sitting. And, it weighs over 70 lbs--about what a household toilet, which is also a one piece china bowl and pedestal--weighs...which could affect the trim of some boats. But, as I said earlier, for that price, it's definitely worth checking out. Jim wrote: The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. The Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). Hey..you can't have EVERYTHING you want for 10% of list price! :) Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. If they really are pressurized water flush, you'll need a solenoid, but you can get that from Raritan. We're kinda snowed/iced in here, so I won't be going anywhere in the morning. If you can't download Acrobat, email me a fax number early and I'll send you the diagrams. However, I strongly recommend you don't buy 'em till you've had a chance to talk to Raritan on Monday. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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The exploded parts diagrams are on the Raritan website, in .pdf
format...which means you need Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to access it. However, unless you have a computer that came off the Ark, you can download Acrobat for free--in fact, from the Raritan site. If that's more than your computer can do, I'll fax 'em to you. Watch for a copy of this reply in your email that has a replyable address. I'm a bit skeptical that all the "innards" are really there for that price...but hey, it's definitely worth checking out. Be aware, though, that the Atlantes has a FULL size elongated bowl that's 19" front to back...you'll also need enough room for your knees in front of it while sitting. And, it weighs over 70 lbs--about what a household toilet, which is also a one piece china bowl and pedestal--weighs...which could affect the trim of some boats. But, as I said earlier, for that price, it's definitely worth checking out. Jim wrote: The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. The Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). Hey..you can't have EVERYTHING you want for 10% of list price! :) Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. If they really are pressurized water flush, you'll need a solenoid, but you can get that from Raritan. We're kinda snowed/iced in here, so I won't be going anywhere in the morning. If you can't download Acrobat, email me a fax number early and I'll send you the diagrams. However, I strongly recommend you don't buy 'em till you've had a chance to talk to Raritan on Monday. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Peggie:
I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. The Raritan web site has the links, but I get an error message for the links on the Atlantes. "Not Found The requested URL /pdf_files/Atlantes/L1001atlantesv0203.pdf was not found on this server." Aside from the price list, all other pdf links work fine. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html The innards seem to be there, not the fresh water solenoid though. I may pass on it, just because they are black. Seems like a deal, though. I need weight on that side, and the thing will fit, although it's a bit high. Could modify the platform the old head sits on. I will go down there tomorrow morning and look them over again, with a little more knowledge. Thanks for your reply. Jim Peggie Hall wrote: The exploded parts diagrams are on the Raritan website, in .pdf format...which means you need Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to access it. However, unless you have a computer that came off the Ark, you can download Acrobat for free--in fact, from the Raritan site. If that's more than your computer can do, I'll fax 'em to you. Watch for a copy of this reply in your email that has a replyable address. I'm a bit skeptical that all the "innards" are really there for that price...but hey, it's definitely worth checking out. Be aware, though, that the Atlantes has a FULL size elongated bowl that's 19" front to back...you'll also need enough room for your knees in front of it while sitting. And, it weighs over 70 lbs--about what a household toilet, which is also a one piece china bowl and pedestal--weighs...which could affect the trim of some boats. But, as I said earlier, for that price, it's definitely worth checking out. Jim wrote: The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. The Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). Hey..you can't have EVERYTHING you want for 10% of list price! :) Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. If they really are pressurized water flush, you'll need a solenoid, but you can get that from Raritan. We're kinda snowed/iced in here, so I won't be going anywhere in the morning. If you can't download Acrobat, email me a fax number early and I'll send you the diagrams. However, I strongly recommend you don't buy 'em till you've had a chance to talk to Raritan on Monday. |
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Peggie:
I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. The Raritan web site has the links, but I get an error message for the links on the Atlantes. "Not Found The requested URL /pdf_files/Atlantes/L1001atlantesv0203.pdf was not found on this server." Aside from the price list, all other pdf links work fine. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html The innards seem to be there, not the fresh water solenoid though. I may pass on it, just because they are black. Seems like a deal, though. I need weight on that side, and the thing will fit, although it's a bit high. Could modify the platform the old head sits on. I will go down there tomorrow morning and look them over again, with a little more knowledge. Thanks for your reply. Jim Peggie Hall wrote: The exploded parts diagrams are on the Raritan website, in .pdf format...which means you need Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to access it. However, unless you have a computer that came off the Ark, you can download Acrobat for free--in fact, from the Raritan site. If that's more than your computer can do, I'll fax 'em to you. Watch for a copy of this reply in your email that has a replyable address. I'm a bit skeptical that all the "innards" are really there for that price...but hey, it's definitely worth checking out. Be aware, though, that the Atlantes has a FULL size elongated bowl that's 19" front to back...you'll also need enough room for your knees in front of it while sitting. And, it weighs over 70 lbs--about what a household toilet, which is also a one piece china bowl and pedestal--weighs...which could affect the trim of some boats. But, as I said earlier, for that price, it's definitely worth checking out. Jim wrote: The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. The Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). Hey..you can't have EVERYTHING you want for 10% of list price! :) Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. If they really are pressurized water flush, you'll need a solenoid, but you can get that from Raritan. We're kinda snowed/iced in here, so I won't be going anywhere in the morning. If you can't download Acrobat, email me a fax number early and I'll send you the diagrams. However, I strongly recommend you don't buy 'em till you've had a chance to talk to Raritan on Monday. |
Peggie, question
Peggie:
I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html The innards seem to be there, not the fresh water solenoid though. I may pass on it, just because they are black. Seems like a deal, though. I need weight on that side, and the thing will fit, although it's a bit high. Could modify the platform the old head sits on. I will go down there tomorrow morning and look them over again, with a little more knowledge. I know what you mean about the cold, I took a sweatshirt with me today. Almost put it on. Thanks for your reply. Jim Peggie Hall wrote: The exploded parts diagrams are on the Raritan website, in .pdf format...which means you need Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to access it. However, unless you have a computer that came off the Ark, you can download Acrobat for free--in fact, from the Raritan site. If that's more than your computer can do, I'll fax 'em to you. Watch for a copy of this reply in your email that has a replyable address. I'm a bit skeptical that all the "innards" are really there for that price...but hey, it's definitely worth checking out. Be aware, though, that the Atlantes has a FULL size elongated bowl that's 19" front to back...you'll also need enough room for your knees in front of it while sitting. And, it weighs over 70 lbs--about what a household toilet, which is also a one piece china bowl and pedestal--weighs...which could affect the trim of some boats. But, as I said earlier, for that price, it's definitely worth checking out. Jim wrote: The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. The Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). Hey..you can't have EVERYTHING you want for 10% of list price! :) Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. If they really are pressurized water flush, you'll need a solenoid, but you can get that from Raritan. We're kinda snowed/iced in here, so I won't be going anywhere in the morning. If you can't download Acrobat, email me a fax number early and I'll send you the diagrams. However, I strongly recommend you don't buy 'em till you've had a chance to talk to Raritan on Monday. |
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Peggie:
I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html The innards seem to be there, not the fresh water solenoid though. I may pass on it, just because they are black. Seems like a deal, though. I need weight on that side, and the thing will fit, although it's a bit high. Could modify the platform the old head sits on. I will go down there tomorrow morning and look them over again, with a little more knowledge. I know what you mean about the cold, I took a sweatshirt with me today. Almost put it on. Thanks for your reply. Jim Peggie Hall wrote: The exploded parts diagrams are on the Raritan website, in .pdf format...which means you need Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to access it. However, unless you have a computer that came off the Ark, you can download Acrobat for free--in fact, from the Raritan site. If that's more than your computer can do, I'll fax 'em to you. Watch for a copy of this reply in your email that has a replyable address. I'm a bit skeptical that all the "innards" are really there for that price...but hey, it's definitely worth checking out. Be aware, though, that the Atlantes has a FULL size elongated bowl that's 19" front to back...you'll also need enough room for your knees in front of it while sitting. And, it weighs over 70 lbs--about what a household toilet, which is also a one piece china bowl and pedestal--weighs...which could affect the trim of some boats. But, as I said earlier, for that price, it's definitely worth checking out. Jim wrote: The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. The Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). Hey..you can't have EVERYTHING you want for 10% of list price! :) Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. If they really are pressurized water flush, you'll need a solenoid, but you can get that from Raritan. We're kinda snowed/iced in here, so I won't be going anywhere in the morning. If you can't download Acrobat, email me a fax number early and I'll send you the diagrams. However, I strongly recommend you don't buy 'em till you've had a chance to talk to Raritan on Monday. |
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[This followup was posted to rec.boats and a copy was sent to the cited
author.] Looks like someone used capital letters in the HTML code, but lower case on the server, they are probably writing/testing on a Windows machine, but hosting on a Linux machine. Try these links instead for the Atlantes line: Atlantes L1001 Atlantes Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L342 Atlantes Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L346 Atlantes Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf and others: MSRP Price List 2003.pdf http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/..._list_2004.pdf L1004 Cricket Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0203.pdf Cricket Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf Cricket Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf SNIP Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html SNIP If anyone knows someone at Raritan, tell them to send me a million dollars.... or a postcard for fixing their site! LOL ********************************************** Scott H. Sexton help@ www.sexton.com sexton.com Eeyore's Birthday Party www.sexton.com/eeyores CDR Listing www.sexton.com/cdr ********************************************** |
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[This followup was posted to rec.boats and a copy was sent to the cited
author.] Looks like someone used capital letters in the HTML code, but lower case on the server, they are probably writing/testing on a Windows machine, but hosting on a Linux machine. Try these links instead for the Atlantes line: Atlantes L1001 Atlantes Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L342 Atlantes Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L346 Atlantes Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf and others: MSRP Price List 2003.pdf http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/..._list_2004.pdf L1004 Cricket Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0203.pdf Cricket Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf Cricket Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf SNIP Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html SNIP If anyone knows someone at Raritan, tell them to send me a million dollars.... or a postcard for fixing their site! LOL ********************************************** Scott H. Sexton help@ www.sexton.com sexton.com Eeyore's Birthday Party www.sexton.com/eeyores CDR Listing www.sexton.com/cdr ********************************************** |
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Thank you for your much appreciated efforts Peggie (and Scott). You're
right about attempts to defeat spammers, Maybe they don't work, then again maybe they do. After sleeping on it, we decided that a black head wouldn't look right. So, I'm going to pass. Anyone want to upgrade your head in So. Ca., go see Ernie Minney. You know the place. Jim Scott Sexton wrote: [This followup was posted to rec.boats and a copy was sent to the cited author.] Looks like someone used capital letters in the HTML code, but lower case on the server, they are probably writing/testing on a Windows machine, but hosting on a Linux machine. Try these links instead for the Atlantes line: Atlantes L1001 Atlantes Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L342 Atlantes Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L346 Atlantes Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf and others: MSRP Price List 2003.pdf http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/..._list_2004.pdf L1004 Cricket Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0203.pdf Cricket Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf Cricket Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf SNIP Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html SNIP If anyone knows someone at Raritan, tell them to send me a million dollars.... or a postcard for fixing their site! LOL ********************************************** Scott H. Sexton help@ www.sexton.com sexton.com Eeyore's Birthday Party www.sexton.com/eeyores CDR Listing www.sexton.com/cdr ********************************************** |
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Thank you for your much appreciated efforts Peggie (and Scott). You're
right about attempts to defeat spammers, Maybe they don't work, then again maybe they do. After sleeping on it, we decided that a black head wouldn't look right. So, I'm going to pass. Anyone want to upgrade your head in So. Ca., go see Ernie Minney. You know the place. Jim Scott Sexton wrote: [This followup was posted to rec.boats and a copy was sent to the cited author.] Looks like someone used capital letters in the HTML code, but lower case on the server, they are probably writing/testing on a Windows machine, but hosting on a Linux machine. Try these links instead for the Atlantes line: Atlantes L1001 Atlantes Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L342 Atlantes Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0203.pdf L346 Atlantes Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf and others: MSRP Price List 2003.pdf http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/..._list_2004.pdf L1004 Cricket Promo Sheet http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0203.pdf Cricket Owner's Manual http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf Cricket Exploded Parts Views http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...icketv0502.pdf SNIP Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html SNIP If anyone knows someone at Raritan, tell them to send me a million dollars.... or a postcard for fixing their site! LOL ********************************************** Scott H. Sexton help@ www.sexton.com sexton.com Eeyore's Birthday Party www.sexton.com/eeyores CDR Listing www.sexton.com/cdr ********************************************** |
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Jim wrote:
Peggie: I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html That link didn't work for me either...but this one does: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf I know what you mean about the cold, I took a sweatshirt with me today. Almost put it on. Ohhh...phhhbbbttt! :) If you have nothing better to do today, I'm really curious to know just how much of those toilets is still there. The asking price is certainly a deal, but depending on how much besides the solenoid is missing (like the macerator maybe?), getting 'em to work could end up costing more than new. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Jim wrote:
Peggie: I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html That link didn't work for me either...but this one does: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf I know what you mean about the cold, I took a sweatshirt with me today. Almost put it on. Ohhh...phhhbbbttt! :) If you have nothing better to do today, I'm really curious to know just how much of those toilets is still there. The asking price is certainly a deal, but depending on how much besides the solenoid is missing (like the macerator maybe?), getting 'em to work could end up costing more than new. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Scott Sexton wrote:
[This followup was posted to rec.boats and a copy was sent to the cited author.] Looks like someone used capital letters in the HTML code, but lower case on the server, they are probably writing/testing on a Windows machine, but hosting on a Linux machine. Or it could be as simple as, they've changed all the URLs...they're doing a lot of work on the site, adding and revising '04 changes. If anyone knows someone at Raritan, tell them to send me a million dollars.... or a postcard for fixing their site! LOL I do...and lotsa luck! :) -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Scott Sexton wrote:
[This followup was posted to rec.boats and a copy was sent to the cited author.] Looks like someone used capital letters in the HTML code, but lower case on the server, they are probably writing/testing on a Windows machine, but hosting on a Linux machine. Or it could be as simple as, they've changed all the URLs...they're doing a lot of work on the site, adding and revising '04 changes. If anyone knows someone at Raritan, tell them to send me a million dollars.... or a postcard for fixing their site! LOL I do...and lotsa luck! :) -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Peggie;
I'll go even though I've decided against buying one. My other half does not want a black toilet, and, I agree (for once). It will be interesting to see how many remain this afternoon. Jim Peggie Hall wrote: Jim wrote: Peggie: I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html That link didn't work for me either...but this one does: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf I know what you mean about the cold, I took a sweatshirt with me today. Almost put it on. Ohhh...phhhbbbttt! :) If you have nothing better to do today, I'm really curious to know just how much of those toilets is still there. The asking price is certainly a deal, but depending on how much besides the solenoid is missing (like the macerator maybe?), getting 'em to work could end up costing more than new. |
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Peggie;
I'll go even though I've decided against buying one. My other half does not want a black toilet, and, I agree (for once). It will be interesting to see how many remain this afternoon. Jim Peggie Hall wrote: Jim wrote: Peggie: I can download Adobe PDF files all day long, That's how I read my morning newspaper. Try it and see if you can get the links to work: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/index.html That link didn't work for me either...but this one does: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...antesv0602.pdf I know what you mean about the cold, I took a sweatshirt with me today. Almost put it on. Ohhh...phhhbbbttt! :) If you have nothing better to do today, I'm really curious to know just how much of those toilets is still there. The asking price is certainly a deal, but depending on how much besides the solenoid is missing (like the macerator maybe?), getting 'em to work could end up costing more than new. |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:52:30 +0000, Jim wrote:
Peggie; I'll go even though I've decided against buying one. My other half does not want a black toilet, and, I agree (for once). Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint... Lloyd |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:52:30 +0000, Jim wrote:
Peggie; I'll go even though I've decided against buying one. My other half does not want a black toilet, and, I agree (for once). Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint... Lloyd |
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint... I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint... I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie Then again: TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white only. http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm |
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Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie Then again: TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white only. http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm |
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Peggie;
You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice. Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they are Raritan Atlantes. I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was there, but the land looked wrong. I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators. Maybe the macerator was there and I couldn't find it. All parts connected like they were made to be connected, finishing in proper sanitation hose. But no wires, and no empty holes. The big stuff, and the details were as shown on the parts sheet. Nothing had been removed, all plumbing looked like it had just been disconnected and the unit pulled out, but there was no trace of anything electrical, nothing. It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked nothing like it at the same time. Confused? So am I. Let's hear from someone else who saw these things. Jim Jim wrote: Peggie; I have been lusting after the "Sea era" head at your suggestion, when I ran across 7 used heads. They appear to be Raritan Atlantes. The word "Raritan" in stamped on the back of the bowl. One piece porcelain bowl, just as it appears in the catalogue I have. The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). I wasn't sure what I was looking at at the store, so I went home and looked at the web site. Of course the exploded parts diagram isn't available, neither is the brochure ("not available on this server"). Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. I will probably go down and get a better look tomorrow. I still don't know what's missing, and what the worst case scenario is on getting them installed and working. Your opinion, please. |
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Peggie;
You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice. Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they are Raritan Atlantes. I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was there, but the land looked wrong. I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators. Maybe the macerator was there and I couldn't find it. All parts connected like they were made to be connected, finishing in proper sanitation hose. But no wires, and no empty holes. The big stuff, and the details were as shown on the parts sheet. Nothing had been removed, all plumbing looked like it had just been disconnected and the unit pulled out, but there was no trace of anything electrical, nothing. It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked nothing like it at the same time. Confused? So am I. Let's hear from someone else who saw these things. Jim Jim wrote: Peggie; I have been lusting after the "Sea era" head at your suggestion, when I ran across 7 used heads. They appear to be Raritan Atlantes. The word "Raritan" in stamped on the back of the bowl. One piece porcelain bowl, just as it appears in the catalogue I have. The store employee said they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know. They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't either). I wasn't sure what I was looking at at the store, so I went home and looked at the web site. Of course the exploded parts diagram isn't available, neither is the brochure ("not available on this server"). Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no manuals. I will probably go down and get a better look tomorrow. I still don't know what's missing, and what the worst case scenario is on getting them installed and working. Your opinion, please. |
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There was a rage some years ago, for painting discolored, damaged
baths and sinks with two part epoxy paint. I find nothing outrageous about expecting epoxy to adhere quite well to a glass surface (which defines the vitreous enamel surface) Brian W On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:17:53 GMT, Peggie Hall wrote: Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint... I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall |
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There was a rage some years ago, for painting discolored, damaged
baths and sinks with two part epoxy paint. I find nothing outrageous about expecting epoxy to adhere quite well to a glass surface (which defines the vitreous enamel surface) Brian W On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:17:53 GMT, Peggie Hall wrote: Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint... I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall |
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Jim wrote:
Peggie; You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice. You have a deal. :) Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they are Raritan Atlantes. I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was there, but the land looked wrong. I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators. They've obviously been cannibalized...'cuz the Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. If you look at the drawing you'll see that part # 13 is the macerator housing, 17 is the macerator, 18 is the gasket under the housing cover...and 22 is the cover. The housing is clear plastic, btw...either it wasn't there or you didn't recognize it. It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked nothing like it at the same time. Confused? So am I. Nope, not confused...just wondering if they're really worth any more that they're asking for 'em. I definitely wouldn't advise anyone to buy one of 'em...at least not without comparing every single part, down to the last gasket and screw, with the parts list, and then talking to Raritan about what it will cost to replace what's missing...and it's obvious that at least a few things--the macerator and either the solenoid or the intake pump (who knows which was really there?)vare. And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay. A LOT of it is either missing major parts, or is so old--even if still "new in box"--that it's obsolete...which means that if nothing is else is wrong, all the rubber parts are long since shot, and may not be replaceable. That doesn't apply to ALL marine sanitation equipment/toilets...a few worth buying do show up on eBay. But before you bid on anything, please ask me to look at it. I'll be glad to tell you what it's likely to need--if it's even worth bidding on at all--whether the parts are still available, and the max amount it's really worth, if anything. Let's hear from someone else who saw these things. By all means...'cuz I'd like to know too. Thanks for making the trip! Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Jim wrote:
Peggie; You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice. You have a deal. :) Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they are Raritan Atlantes. I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was there, but the land looked wrong. I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators. They've obviously been cannibalized...'cuz the Atlantes IS a macerating toilet. If you look at the drawing you'll see that part # 13 is the macerator housing, 17 is the macerator, 18 is the gasket under the housing cover...and 22 is the cover. The housing is clear plastic, btw...either it wasn't there or you didn't recognize it. It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked nothing like it at the same time. Confused? So am I. Nope, not confused...just wondering if they're really worth any more that they're asking for 'em. I definitely wouldn't advise anyone to buy one of 'em...at least not without comparing every single part, down to the last gasket and screw, with the parts list, and then talking to Raritan about what it will cost to replace what's missing...and it's obvious that at least a few things--the macerator and either the solenoid or the intake pump (who knows which was really there?)vare. And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay. A LOT of it is either missing major parts, or is so old--even if still "new in box"--that it's obsolete...which means that if nothing is else is wrong, all the rubber parts are long since shot, and may not be replaceable. That doesn't apply to ALL marine sanitation equipment/toilets...a few worth buying do show up on eBay. But before you bid on anything, please ask me to look at it. I'll be glad to tell you what it's likely to need--if it's even worth bidding on at all--whether the parts are still available, and the max amount it's really worth, if anything. Let's hear from someone else who saw these things. By all means...'cuz I'd like to know too. Thanks for making the trip! Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new
every day! Peggie LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: Peggie, question From: Peggie Hall I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie Then again: TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white only. http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new
every day! Peggie LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: Peggie, question From: Peggie Hall I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie Then again: TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white only. http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Hope it works better than the stuff they use to refinish your enameled
bathtub. We had ours done a while back and the new 'finish' pealed within 3 months. Have to admit it only pealed on the bottom...not the sides. I've been after the wife to get them back in for 'warranty' work. The process was her idea against my opinion. For a few hundred more we could have bought the 'liner' for the old tub till we could rip out and renovate the entire bathroom. Peggie Hall wrote in message ... It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new every day! Peggie LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: Peggie, question From: Peggie Hall I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie Then again: TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white only. http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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Hope it works better than the stuff they use to refinish your enameled
bathtub. We had ours done a while back and the new 'finish' pealed within 3 months. Have to admit it only pealed on the bottom...not the sides. I've been after the wife to get them back in for 'warranty' work. The process was her idea against my opinion. For a few hundred more we could have bought the 'liner' for the old tub till we could rip out and renovate the entire bathroom. Peggie Hall wrote in message ... It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new every day! Peggie LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: Peggie, question From: Peggie Hall I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to glazed porcelain...at least not for long. Peggie Then again: TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white only. http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:19:50 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote: And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay. You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a marine head isn't one of them. Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with "wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility. Others may think differently. R. |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:19:50 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote: And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay. You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a marine head isn't one of them. Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with "wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility. Others may think differently. R. |
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rhys wrote:
You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a marine head isn't one of them. Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with "wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility. Not necessarily....I do occasionally see something worth bidding on. For instance, if you can get a PH II, used or not, for about $150 that only needs a $35 rebuild kit, that MIGHT be a good buy. A Wilcox Skipper or Imperial would be an excellent buy for $200-$300, even if you had to put $100-$200 into it, 'cuz those are $1000 toilets built to last at least 100 years. A company called Fore & Aft Marine has sold a couple of brand new Lectra/San MC's on eBay...they went for about $100 less than in the catalogs, making 'em a good buy. Otoh, somebody else had anothr Lectra/San on eBay recently..." appears to be new, never been installed." And from the photo, I'd agree. It sold for about $400, which sounds like a great deal. Except the controller was the original dial that's been obsolete for at least 15 years--you can't even get parts for it any more, which means this unit has been sitting on somebody's shelf for at least that long, maybe even longer. It's gonna cost the "lucky" bidder more to put it into working condition than he'd have to pay for a brand new one. When he finds that out, he'll prob'ly put it back up on eBay to get his money back from another unsuspecting soul. I've seen "new" Mansfield (that brand went out of existance when SeaLand bought Mansfield in 1984) VacuFlush toilets and TDX Type I MSDs (SeaLand redesigned it and changed the name to SanX around 1990) on Ebay...SeaLand manual toilets--SeaLand hasn't made manual toilets since 1986...toilets that are missing the pumps--just the bowl on the base is left...toilets so obsolete I don't even have a clue what they were or if all the parts are still there. The only value any of it has would be to someone who has one of these systems and needs hardware parts that aren't available any more...but unsuspecting bidders drive the prices too high to even make that worthwhile. So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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rhys wrote:
You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a marine head isn't one of them. Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with "wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility. Not necessarily....I do occasionally see something worth bidding on. For instance, if you can get a PH II, used or not, for about $150 that only needs a $35 rebuild kit, that MIGHT be a good buy. A Wilcox Skipper or Imperial would be an excellent buy for $200-$300, even if you had to put $100-$200 into it, 'cuz those are $1000 toilets built to last at least 100 years. A company called Fore & Aft Marine has sold a couple of brand new Lectra/San MC's on eBay...they went for about $100 less than in the catalogs, making 'em a good buy. Otoh, somebody else had anothr Lectra/San on eBay recently..." appears to be new, never been installed." And from the photo, I'd agree. It sold for about $400, which sounds like a great deal. Except the controller was the original dial that's been obsolete for at least 15 years--you can't even get parts for it any more, which means this unit has been sitting on somebody's shelf for at least that long, maybe even longer. It's gonna cost the "lucky" bidder more to put it into working condition than he'd have to pay for a brand new one. When he finds that out, he'll prob'ly put it back up on eBay to get his money back from another unsuspecting soul. I've seen "new" Mansfield (that brand went out of existance when SeaLand bought Mansfield in 1984) VacuFlush toilets and TDX Type I MSDs (SeaLand redesigned it and changed the name to SanX around 1990) on Ebay...SeaLand manual toilets--SeaLand hasn't made manual toilets since 1986...toilets that are missing the pumps--just the bowl on the base is left...toilets so obsolete I don't even have a clue what they were or if all the parts are still there. The only value any of it has would be to someone who has one of these systems and needs hardware parts that aren't available any more...but unsuspecting bidders drive the prices too high to even make that worthwhile. So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:35 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote: snip So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid. I think by stating the hazards of getting outmoded "new" heads, plus the impossibility of confirming the real state of same, you confirmed my point. I would buy a used diesel because I can see it in action, see the logs, see the general condition and get an oil analysis done. No pun intended, but a used or "new" (read outmoded, or outcommoded) head seems a bit of a crap shoot. Better I should buy a W/C and will it to my kids G because in a hundred years I think I'll be reduced to Sharks and a bucket...G R. |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:35 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote: snip So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid. I think by stating the hazards of getting outmoded "new" heads, plus the impossibility of confirming the real state of same, you confirmed my point. I would buy a used diesel because I can see it in action, see the logs, see the general condition and get an oil analysis done. No pun intended, but a used or "new" (read outmoded, or outcommoded) head seems a bit of a crap shoot. Better I should buy a W/C and will it to my kids G because in a hundred years I think I'll be reduced to Sharks and a bucket...G R. |
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