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Probably just a pipe dream but..............
Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard |
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hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard http://www.yachtransport.com/?gclid=...FShciAodRy71Yg g |
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I looked at transporting a 38 foot sailboat from Hong Kong or Singapore to
east coast of Australia. As I recall it was going to be incredibly expensive. Disassembly, load into cradle, fumigate and inspect, transport to shipside and load on deck, clear customs, transport to yard, install mast, etc, insurance, GST (Aussie), plus import duty. I don't recall the exact number but it was on the order of $25-$35k I think. Made it impractical. In addition, boats are generally more expensive in Oceania / Asia than in the U.S. I think it would have to be a pretty special boat to make it worthwhile. "hpeer" wrote in message m... Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard |
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"hpeer" wrote in message
m... Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard For Captain/crew, search google for: yacht delivery rate. You'll get a good approximation. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:59 -0500, hpeer wrote:
Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:59 -0500, hpeer wrote: Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer. This is the 2nd time in recent days that you've made this kind of assertion. According to George Day, the Editor of Blue Water Cruising, there are more Tayana 37s cruising offshore than any other single design. Where is this notion of yours that a boat in the mid 30's is too short to be a blue water cruiser coming from and what would you consider a reasonable size boat for an ocean crossing trip. Also, what cruising have you done? What experience are you basing these garbage opinions on? If you are going to issue these definitive statements like you know what you are talking about, they should at least be sensible. There are after all, lots of people reading these posts that are new to sailing/cruising and could mistakenly believe you know what you're talking about. -- Dan Best - (559) 970-9858, Fresno, CA 93704 B-2/75 1977-1979 Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean" http://triciajean192.home.comcast.net |
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On Jan 31, 9:40*pm, hpeer wrote:
Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...spagenameZWDVW Joe |
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:42:20 -0800, Dan BEst
wrote: That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer. ================================================== === This is the 2nd time in recent days that you've made this kind of assertion. I assume you are talking about my comment that 38 ft is a bit less than average for offshore cruising? I believe that to be a true statement. Most of the boats that I see in offshore destinations are in the low to mid 40 ft range, some bigger. According to George Day, the Editor of Blue Water Cruising, there are more Tayana 37s cruising offshore than any other single design. I have no idea whether or not that is true, and I doubt that George does either. Where is this notion of yours that a boat in the mid 30's is too short to be a blue water cruiser coming from and what would you consider a reasonable size boat for an ocean crossing trip. I never said that but my personal preference is for boats in the mid 40 ft range due to their greater speed, comfort and stowage capacity. Also, what cruising have you done? What experience are you basing these garbage opinions on? Six trips to Bermuda, quite a few to the Bahamas and BVI, plus a lot of extended coastal cruising over 30+ years in boats ranging from 28 to 55 ft. If you are going to issue these definitive statements like you know what you are talking about, they should at least be sensible. There are after all, lots of people reading these posts that are new to sailing/cruising and could mistakenly believe you know what you're talking about. Your mileage may vary. My post should not be interpreted in anyway as casting aspersions on your (or anyone elses) Tayana 37. That was not the point. Tayanas can and do cross oceans, and people like them. My observation about the proposed delivery relates to cost, and cost effectiveness, vs shipping. How many days is an on water delivery from Singapore to the east coast likely to take? I'm guessing at least 80 to 90 days since the distance is around 12,000 miles. A delivery crew is likey to cost at least $300 per day plus expenses which will be considerable. And then there is the issue of wear and tear on the boat, engine, rigging and sails which will also be significant. Even if shipping costs are $30K it will still be cheaper than on water delivery, and a lot less risky. Which brings up my last issue: Is a 36 ft boat really worth $30K in shipping when you could probably purchase a comparable boat that is already on the east coast? |
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:42:23 -0800, Dan Best
wrote: wrote: Wayne has a large powerboat and is a coastal cruiser. He says that if sailboats are in his way, he has every right to deliberately wake them as he passes. That is a rather gross simplification of what I did say, but I really have no further comment. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer. Wayne B., Please accept my apologies. I went back and reread what you posted and realized that I misread or misinterpreted what you wrote. You did emphasize "a delivery" in your comment and it was meant as more of a financial judgement than a capability one. On the other one, I was mentally attributing something someone else said to you and was guilty of not looking it up and verifying it before I hit the send key. You'd think that after all these years, I'd know better than to try to reply to something when I'm rushing out the door. -- Dan Best s/v Tricia Jean, Tayana 37 #192 http://home.comcast.net/~triciajean192/ |
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Joe wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...spagenameZWDVW Joe Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!! |
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On Feb 1, 8:45 am, Wayne.B wrote:
...[the] distance is around 12,000 miles. A delivery crew is likey to cost at least $300 per day plus expenses which will be considerable. And then there is the issue of wear and tear on the boat, engine, rigging and sails which will also be significant. Even if shipping costs are $30K it will still be cheaper than on water delivery, and a lot less risky. ... $2/mile plus expenses is a decent rule of thumb for long deliveries. I suspect $30k isn't far off the mark. You'd really have to be in love to pay that. However, I've run across a couple of families who were doing deliveries in return for being allowed to take the time to cruise along the route. I know that there were some disputes. Timing and particularly how time spent doing repairs would be treated were sore points in both cases. Also the routes involved were less challenging and more attractive than Singapore - East Coast would be... Nevertheless, just the right family might be out there to do it, and the dollar price should be more reasonable. -- Tom. |
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:05:36 -0800, Dan Best
wrote: Wayne B., Please accept my apologies. I went back and reread what you posted and realized that I misread or misinterpreted what you wrote. You did emphasize "a delivery" in your comment and it was meant as more of a financial judgement than a capability one. On the other one, I was mentally attributing something someone else said to you and was guilty of not looking it up and verifying it before I hit the send key. You'd think that after all these years, I'd know better than to try to reply to something when I'm rushing out the door. No problem. |
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In article , Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:05:36 -0800, Dan Best wrote: Wayne B., Please accept my apologies. I went back and reread what you posted and realized that I misread or misinterpreted what you wrote. You did emphasize "a delivery" in your comment and it was meant as more of a financial judgement than a capability one. On the other one, I was mentally attributing something someone else said to you and was guilty of not looking it up and verifying it before I hit the send key. You'd think that after all these years, I'd know better than to try to reply to something when I'm rushing out the door. No problem. Civility? On usenet? Oh dear, I feel faint... |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:16:54 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Feb 1, 8:45 am, Wayne.B wrote: ...[the] distance is around 12,000 miles. A delivery crew is likey to cost at least $300 per day plus expenses which will be considerable. And then there is the issue of wear and tear on the boat, engine, rigging and sails which will also be significant. Even if shipping costs are $30K it will still be cheaper than on water delivery, and a lot less risky. ... $2/mile plus expenses is a decent rule of thumb for long deliveries. I suspect $30k isn't far off the mark. You'd really have to be in love to pay that. However, I've run across a couple of families who were doing deliveries in return for being allowed to take the time to cruise along the route. I know that there were some disputes. Timing and particularly how time spent doing repairs would be treated were sore points in both cases. Also the routes involved were less challenging and more attractive than Singapore - East Coast would be... Nevertheless, just the right family might be out there to do it, and the dollar price should be more reasonable. -- Tom. A friend here in Thailand was trying to sell his Bristol channel Cutter some years ago and was communicating with a potential buyer who asked whether the boat could be delivered to the west coast of the U.S. I got involved in researching delivery possibilities. The shortest route for delivery by sailing was from Thailand to Singapore, north from Singapore to Taiwan/Japan and turn east straight across the Pacific to California. Shipping involved building a cradle and shipping either as deck cargo or on a container ship. This turned out to be the cheapest method, although a bit complex as the logistics of placing the boat in the cradle and loading aboard the ship involved travel lifts in one location and cranes at another plus hauling over public roads. I did contact a company in Singapore that supposedly "specialized in shipping boats" through a Singapore Chinese friend. He advised me that the company appeared to have the capability but when it came to getting an estimated cost the shipping company had basically asked "how much will the client pay". The upshot was that for a 10 year old Bristol Channel Cutter, in good nick, with a survey stating that the boat was in satisfactory condition and the only discrepancies noted were considered as fair wear and tear, the all in cost of delivery to the U.S. was a deal breaker as it nearly doubled the total cost to the buyer. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) |
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hpeer wrote:
Joe wrote: On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...spagenameZWDVW Joe Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!! Joe, You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel. This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least another bit before taking off. In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let her carry you on. And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel, in Newfoundland. Sigh and sigh again. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:59 -0500, hpeer wrote: Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer. I had a 32 foot sailboat I sailed anywhere I wished to. I'd not hesitate to take that exact boat on this trip. IIRC, some girl sailed a much smaller boat from California to Australia as have many others. If I had the time, I'd be happy to do this trip unless the quality or the condition of the boat isn't up to it. Size isn't relevant. Build quality and condition sure are, though. There is a hell of a diff between, say, an O'Day and a Valiant. -paul |
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote:
hpeer wrote: Joe wrote: On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. Joe Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!! Joe, You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel. This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least another bit before taking off. In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let her carry you on. And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel, in Newfoundland. Sigh and sigh again. I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population. Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons. First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the area and neither list the boat. Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about the boat. For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to give you some information on the boat. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:59 -0500, hpeer wrote: That is *way* too long a delivery trip for a 36 footer. When we were thinking about the boat in Hong Kong I considered either self delivery or hiring a delivery skipper and crew but in the end I decided for that boat (a deep keel racer/cruiser) and those distances (HK to Australia east coast) the wear and tear on sails, rig engine and the boat in general would probably make the total cost equivalent to shipping. |
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:10:28 -0800, cavalamb himself
wrote: Bruce in Bangkok wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote: hpeer wrote: Joe wrote: On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. Joe Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!! Joe, You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel. This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least another bit before taking off. In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let her carry you on. And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel, in Newfoundland. Sigh and sigh again. I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population. Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons. First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the area and neither list the boat. Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about the boat. For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to give you some information on the boat. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000. To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value. Or, if the engine is frozen, sails stuffed, corrosion rampart and no electronics working, maybe too much. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) |
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cavalamb himself wrote:
Bruce in Bangkok wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote: hpeer wrote: Joe wrote: On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. Joe Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!! Joe, You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel. This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least another bit before taking off. In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let her carry you on. And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel, in Newfoundland. Sigh and sigh again. I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population. Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons. First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the area and neither list the boat. Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about the boat. For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to give you some information on the boat. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000. To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value. Agreed on both parts, it seems to good to be true and the last buyer backed out. Supposedly because he could not come up with the cash but could be for other reasons. Metal boats are not highly favored here in the states and the welding, if not well done, could have introduced cosmetic distortion, though it is not obvious in the pictures. Also, there is all that 220V AC "stuff" in the boat like the "cooker", microwave, and convection oven. That sounds like a dock magnet not a blue water boat as it is being billed. Also, there is all that "stuff" on the aft davits, but no real vane or autopilot. So, I agree that there are some anomalies. Yet, the price is attractive, and the boat is someplace that is NOT HERE. Bruce, having never been to Singapore, is it reasonable to find a decent storage yard where the boat could be put up on the hard and securely stored for a couple of years? Or is that too outrageously expensive? Howard |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote: hpeer wrote: Joe wrote: On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. Joe Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!! Joe, You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel. This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least another bit before taking off. In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let her carry you on. And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel, in Newfoundland. Sigh and sigh again. I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population. Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons. First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the area and neither list the boat. Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about the boat. For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to give you some information on the boat. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000. To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value. |
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:01:29 -0500, hpeer wrote:
cavalamb himself wrote: Bruce in Bangkok wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:25:24 -0500, hpeer wrote: hpeer wrote: Joe wrote: On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. Joe Yeah! Sigh!!!!!!!!! Joe, You have outed me here. Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel. This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least another bit before taking off. In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. Go to her and let her carry you on. And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel, in Newfoundland. Sigh and sigh again. I don't like to be a spoil sport but there are several yacht brokers in Singapore and a pretty active yachting population. Frankly selling the boat through e-bay seems strange for two reasons. First, the boat size and price range is one that sells really well in this area and , secondly, I checked two of the yacht brokers in the area and neither list the boat. Granted that there can be a number of explanations for this but before you get too excited I would suggest that you contact some of the yacht brokers in Singapore or SEA, and see whether they know anything about the boat. For brokers you could try Lee marine, Howison Marine or Simpson Marine, google them for Singapore URL, one of them should be able to give you some information on the boat. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) Then there is the "Buy-It-Now" price of $65,000. To my mind that's only a fraction of the boat's true value. Agreed on both parts, it seems to good to be true and the last buyer backed out. Supposedly because he could not come up with the cash but could be for other reasons. Metal boats are not highly favored here in the states and the welding, if not well done, could have introduced cosmetic distortion, though it is not obvious in the pictures. Also, there is all that 220V AC "stuff" in the boat like the "cooker", microwave, and convection oven. That sounds like a dock magnet not a blue water boat as it is being billed. Also, there is all that "stuff" on the aft davits, but no real vane or autopilot. So, I agree that there are some anomalies. Yet, the price is attractive, and the boat is someplace that is NOT HERE. Bruce, having never been to Singapore, is it reasonable to find a decent storage yard where the boat could be put up on the hard and securely stored for a couple of years? Or is that too outrageously expensive? Howard Taking your message point by point. 1. The statement that the underwater parts of the boat are alloy while the top\sides and cabin are steel would lead one to believe that boat may be professionally built as that alloy is not cheap and actually the hull is the cheap part of building a boat. However it could be that someone came across some cheap alloy going begging. 2. the 220 VAC utilities are standard fare outside the U.S. and frankly fairly cheap to convert to 110 VAC if you require, The fact that the boat is equipped with electric "stuff" is pretty standard for a cruising boat. Most circumnavigaters actually spend more time in harbors then at sea, and remember that the boat is set up to live aboard which means that you don' have any other place to live. Example: A mate is setting off across the Indian ocean later in the month. Plans on sailing nonstop to India; finding a place to keep the boat; touring india and returning in about 3 months. He is planning on a three week voyage to India and three back. Out of a three month trip. I didn't look at the pictures very carefully but there MUST have been an autopilot somewhere. Must have! I only know one person that sails without an autopilot and he does charters with about 8 people aboard and everyone stands 2 hour wheel watches. Finally. there are four marinas in Singapore. One I'm sure has dry storage another I'm not sure of and the other two not. I'm sure that you could find a yard that would store the boat for you but I'm not sure at what cost. The marina cost would, probably, be the same as a wet berth. If you are at all serious about buying the boat I would contact Howison Marine in Singapore and ask them to have a look for you. Howison and his wife are both good sorts and he probably knows of the boat and if he doesn't he might be willing to make a few phone calls and find out. He can also probably give you an idea of storage costs. I'll be in Singapore right after Chinese New Year and if you are at least semi serious I can take time to call around and see whether I can find out some details. If you want that email me at pbaige125 at gmail dot com and let me know. Bruce-in-Bangkok (Note:remove underscores from address for reply) |
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Just a few quick comments on the boat
By the looks of things, that's a mighty power hungry boat. You are going to be running that Honda generator a lot as there's no way that single 75W panel is going to produce enough. I wonder how many amp hours it takes cook a meal on that magnetic induction cook top. For the same money, you can get a some very nice boats that are already here in the states, especially in this market. Heck, it's on the "left" coast, but I'd even consider selling you mine. That's an awful lot of "crap on de back". It makes my boat look like it has a clean aft end by comparison. I doubt if there's any way a wind vane could function, so you'll be dead reliant on those two tiller pilots. -- Dan Best - (559) 970-9858, Fresno, CA 93704 B-2/75 1977-1979 Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean" http://triciajean192.home.comcast.net |
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Dan Best wrote in news:47a49137$0$36384
: I wonder how many amp hours it takes cook a meal on that magnetic induction cook top. Round numbers say 2Kwh... 2000wh/13V=150-200 AH off the house batteries. The boat is setup for a POWER PLANT, not batteries-and-a-flashlight hermits. Does't it have a diesel power plant? It needs one. Noone's gonna run an electric stove off batteries....unless they're on a submarine with some SERIOUS batteries. The recharging would drive you crazy! Power has to come from somewhere.... Larry "Nothing is funnier than a yachtie with a new 4KW inverter carrying his electric heater down the dock with a big smile on his face." |
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Larry wrote:
Dan Best wrote in news:47a49137$0$36384 : I wonder how many amp hours it takes cook a meal on that magnetic induction cook top. Round numbers say 2Kwh... 2000wh/13V=150-200 AH off the house batteries. The boat is setup for a POWER PLANT, not batteries-and-a-flashlight hermits. Does't it have a diesel power plant? It needs one. Noone's gonna run an electric stove off batteries....unless they're on a submarine with some SERIOUS batteries. The recharging would drive you crazy! Power has to come from somewhere.... Larry "Nothing is funnier than a yachtie with a new 4KW inverter carrying his electric heater down the dock with a big smile on his face." Dan and Larry, You are on to the drift of my comments. I still like the monel hull, material and shape, and some of the features. If you threw out half the crap and put in a decent cooker and vane it would be a good boat. And you don't have to cross the Pacific to get it to where it is. My own boat, a Murray 33 by Ted Brewer is much simpler. But I have a proper vane and autopilot, kerosene cooker, kerosene heater, Espar diesel heater, and sea berths. No AC needed at 50N. |
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I regularly peruse boats on Ebay (bored while traveling). This boat has
been on Ebay for a *long* time - re-listed again and again - and if the add copy is to be believed, more than one seller has backed out / couldn't finance / etc. Might be a fine boat, but it certainly makes me wonder... Keith Hughes hpeer wrote: Larry wrote: Dan Best wrote in news:47a49137$0$36384 : I wonder how many amp hours it takes cook a meal on that magnetic induction cook top. Round numbers say 2Kwh... 2000wh/13V=150-200 AH off the house batteries. The boat is setup for a POWER PLANT, not batteries-and-a-flashlight hermits. Does't it have a diesel power plant? It needs one. Noone's gonna run an electric stove off batteries....unless they're on a submarine with some SERIOUS batteries. The recharging would drive you crazy! Power has to come from somewhere.... Larry "Nothing is funnier than a yachtie with a new 4KW inverter carrying his electric heater down the dock with a big smile on his face." Dan and Larry, You are on to the drift of my comments. I still like the monel hull, material and shape, and some of the features. If you threw out half the crap and put in a decent cooker and vane it would be a good boat. And you don't have to cross the Pacific to get it to where it is. My own boat, a Murray 33 by Ted Brewer is much simpler. But I have a proper vane and autopilot, kerosene cooker, kerosene heater, Espar diesel heater, and sea berths. No AC needed at 50N. |
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hpeer wrote in news:47a4b3ea$0$14080
: You are on to the drift of my comments. I still like the monel hull, material and shape, and some of the features. If you threw out half the crap and put in a decent cooker and vane it would be a good boat. And you don't have to cross the Pacific to get it to where it is. Are you going to keep this boat in Singapore? The question about importing it into the USA might be an interesting issue...or Canada. |
Singapore delivery price????
hpeer wrote in news:47a5009d$0$14104
: 1962 At that age, too, someone may have put an ultrasonic thickness guage to the hull and found out how THIN it's gotten in strategic places after all those years at sea..... |
Singapore delivery price????
Larry wrote:
hpeer wrote in news:47a4b3ea$0$14080 : You are on to the drift of my comments. I still like the monel hull, material and shape, and some of the features. If you threw out half the crap and put in a decent cooker and vane it would be a good boat. And you don't have to cross the Pacific to get it to where it is. Are you going to keep this boat in Singapore? The question about importing it into the USA might be an interesting issue...or Canada. I think I am slowly coming to my senses on this. I already have one boat 1,200 miles away. Although there is something to be said for this the is also much against it. 12,000 miles is just too far. |
Singapore delivery price????
hpeer wrote in news:47a517d9$0$14099
: 12,000 miles is just too far. A very excellent point. Sometimes, even 10 miles can be too far.... |
Singapore delivery price????
On Feb 1, 8:25*pm, hpeer wrote:
hpeer wrote: Joe wrote: On Jan 31, 9:40 pm, hpeer wrote: Probably just a pipe dream but.............. Anyone out there care to speculate on the delivery cost of a 36-foot sailboat from Singapore to East Coast US? Various methods: Delivery Captain and/or crew??? By ship????? Many thanks, Howard This one? I like it too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World...Sailboat-W-Mon... Joe Yeah! *Sigh!!!!!!!!! Joe, You have outed me here. *Now we will have the thousands of Newsgroup users from all over the world competing for this lovely vessel. Not so sure, had the whole hull been Monel then perhaps so. I have a problem with a monel to steel weld at or near the waterline. I could understand a steel cabin and decks as a way to cut cost, but to only do from the water line up seems like a bad decision. This boat is about 2 years too soon, I still need to work for at least another bit before taking off. In reality the only way to make this work is to think of it as an opportunity, the boat is already where you want her. *Go to her and let her carry you on. That would be my choice, however the boats a bit small, and as others have said has been on and off ebay several times. You'd have to go to Singapore and make sure all is legit. And, I already have a roughly similar boat, albeit steel and not monel, in Newfoundland. Enjoy it, live the dream. Don't sigh and dream about other boats in far off ports. If you must dream about getting a rust proof metal boat try to get Asperita a 4 mm thick copper-nickel alloy hull buildt in 1967. The link below even has the current owners name and address......Good Luck! http://www.copper.org/applications/c...boat_hull.html Joe Sigh and sigh again.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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