Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

Out of curosity - why would anyone want an Out House 41 on Georgian
Bay ?


On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:01:10 GMT, Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

Out of curosity - why would anyone want an Out House 41 on Georgian
Bay ?


On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:01:10 GMT, Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

A wrote:

Out of curosity - why would anyone want an Out House 41 on Georgian
Bay ?

Out of curiosity, did you actually mean "out of smartass-ism"?

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

A wrote:

Out of curosity - why would anyone want an Out House 41 on Georgian
Bay ?

Out of curiosity, did you actually mean "out of smartass-ism"?

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

No I didn't say that - have you been there - Mr Smart Ass?
Know what you're talking about?


On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 16:44:05 -0500, "Armond Perretta"
wrote:

A wrote:

Out of curosity - why would anyone want an Out House 41 on Georgian
Bay ?

Out of curiosity, did you actually mean "out of smartass-ism"?

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

No I didn't say that - have you been there - Mr Smart Ass?
Know what you're talking about?


On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 16:44:05 -0500, "Armond Perretta"
wrote:

A wrote:

Out of curosity - why would anyone want an Out House 41 on Georgian
Bay ?

Out of curiosity, did you actually mean "out of smartass-ism"?

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

look under licensing the boat in canada.

Call CCRA or check the Canadian Coastguard web site. You will have to pay:
- GST
- PST
- No duty since the boat was built in the U.S.

Now Here's the funny one. If you don't bring the boat into Canada you
don't have to pay GST or PST but you can't register your boat in Canada.
Since I'm not planning to bring my boat back, I don't know how I'm going
to register it.

I'm a Canadian but I may not be able to fly a Canadian Flag on my boat.

Ed

Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

look under licensing the boat in canada.

Call CCRA or check the Canadian Coastguard web site. You will have to pay:
- GST
- PST
- No duty since the boat was built in the U.S.

Now Here's the funny one. If you don't bring the boat into Canada you
don't have to pay GST or PST but you can't register your boat in Canada.
Since I'm not planning to bring my boat back, I don't know how I'm going
to register it.

I'm a Canadian but I may not be able to fly a Canadian Flag on my boat.

Ed

Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

There might be another hidden tax 'glitch' waiting for you:
If you buy without a broker, you will need to immediately remove the
boat from Fla ... or sales taxes are immediately due.
If you buy through a broker you have 30 or 45 days to get it out of
Fl....or sales taxes are due.
I cant exactly remember as it was few years ago when I bought my boat
in FL... I went through a broker but did have to remove it from FL
within the specified time to save tax $$$$.


In article , Ed McDermott
wrote:

look under licensing the boat in canada.

Call CCRA or check the Canadian Coastguard web site. You will have to pay:
- GST
- PST
- No duty since the boat was built in the U.S.

Now Here's the funny one. If you don't bring the boat into Canada you
don't have to pay GST or PST but you can't register your boat in Canada.
Since I'm not planning to bring my boat back, I don't know how I'm going
to register it.

I'm a Canadian but I may not be able to fly a Canadian Flag on my boat.

Ed

Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

There might be another hidden tax 'glitch' waiting for you:
If you buy without a broker, you will need to immediately remove the
boat from Fla ... or sales taxes are immediately due.
If you buy through a broker you have 30 or 45 days to get it out of
Fl....or sales taxes are due.
I cant exactly remember as it was few years ago when I bought my boat
in FL... I went through a broker but did have to remove it from FL
within the specified time to save tax $$$$.


In article , Ed McDermott
wrote:

look under licensing the boat in canada.

Call CCRA or check the Canadian Coastguard web site. You will have to pay:
- GST
- PST
- No duty since the boat was built in the U.S.

Now Here's the funny one. If you don't bring the boat into Canada you
don't have to pay GST or PST but you can't register your boat in Canada.
Since I'm not planning to bring my boat back, I don't know how I'm going
to register it.

I'm a Canadian but I may not be able to fly a Canadian Flag on my boat.

Ed

Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

the Cdn website is
http://www.tc.gc.ca/marinesafety/Shi...s/registry.htm

you can register register the boat as a Cdn vessel with Cdn federal
registration w/o a Cdn ever seeing the boat or it going to Canada -
needs a unique name in their registry - but you make names unique by
adding II, III etc or extending the name - eg Mary becomes Mary T or
Mary Jones, etc There's a name lookup on the website.

You need a special measurement survey for the process - costs $300-400
maybe - boats are registered in Canada by Thames tonnes or capacity
no. of beach balls or something equally useful.

You can fly a CDn flag all you want, no need to be Cdn registered.

One issue, only US citizens can legally own US documented (USCG)
vessels - if you buy a documented boat, you should de-document the
boat to to safe from USCG bull-**** prosecution/persecution. Fees are
$50 or something if you do it yourself. If it's state registered - I'd
probably ignore that and go to Cdn registration. Anybody can own a
state register boat.

I looked into moving my boat to Cdn registration recently because I'm
dual citizenship Cdn/US and with the current morons in DC and their
creation of global ill will - I'd just as soon be in a Cdn boat.


On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:31:21 -0500, Ed McDermott
wrote:

look under licensing the boat in canada.

Call CCRA or check the Canadian Coastguard web site. You will have to pay:
- GST
- PST
- No duty since the boat was built in the U.S.

Now Here's the funny one. If you don't bring the boat into Canada you
don't have to pay GST or PST but you can't register your boat in Canada.
Since I'm not planning to bring my boat back, I don't know how I'm going
to register it.

I'm a Canadian but I may not be able to fly a Canadian Flag on my boat.

Ed

Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

the Cdn website is
http://www.tc.gc.ca/marinesafety/Shi...s/registry.htm

you can register register the boat as a Cdn vessel with Cdn federal
registration w/o a Cdn ever seeing the boat or it going to Canada -
needs a unique name in their registry - but you make names unique by
adding II, III etc or extending the name - eg Mary becomes Mary T or
Mary Jones, etc There's a name lookup on the website.

You need a special measurement survey for the process - costs $300-400
maybe - boats are registered in Canada by Thames tonnes or capacity
no. of beach balls or something equally useful.

You can fly a CDn flag all you want, no need to be Cdn registered.

One issue, only US citizens can legally own US documented (USCG)
vessels - if you buy a documented boat, you should de-document the
boat to to safe from USCG bull-**** prosecution/persecution. Fees are
$50 or something if you do it yourself. If it's state registered - I'd
probably ignore that and go to Cdn registration. Anybody can own a
state register boat.

I looked into moving my boat to Cdn registration recently because I'm
dual citizenship Cdn/US and with the current morons in DC and their
creation of global ill will - I'd just as soon be in a Cdn boat.


On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:31:21 -0500, Ed McDermott
wrote:

look under licensing the boat in canada.

Call CCRA or check the Canadian Coastguard web site. You will have to pay:
- GST
- PST
- No duty since the boat was built in the U.S.

Now Here's the funny one. If you don't bring the boat into Canada you
don't have to pay GST or PST but you can't register your boat in Canada.
Since I'm not planning to bring my boat back, I don't know how I'm going
to register it.

I'm a Canadian but I may not be able to fly a Canadian Flag on my boat.

Ed

Steve wrote:

Hi All,

I am very interested in getting my hands on a 41' Morgan Out Island,
and I would like to know how difficult/expensive/frustrating it will
be to buy a boat in Florida, and sail it up to Georgian Bay.

I have checked the Canada Customs site, but didn't find anything
helpful in regards to taxes, fees, etc.

I know that I can't be the first person to have attempted this, but I
have searched high and low on the 'net for messages/pages/posts about
personal experiences, and have come up empty handed.

I would like to hear from sailors who have jumped through the
requisite hoops to bring a saiboat into Canada.

Note - The boat would be 1974 - 1980, and approx $60,000 US, if this
helps


Please remove the 'hat' from my email address to reply, thanks.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

Dear Wally,

Speaking of $$$, me and wife are sucking every ****ing $$$ of social
security we can get - while cruising and living on the boat in Mexico.
Kiss my ass - So anyhow, we just fly a Cdn flag on the boat -
documented and homeported in Seattle - who gives a ****. Not me.



On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:00:00 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:01:42 -0800, bc wrote:

I looked into moving my boat to Cdn registration recently because I'm
dual citizenship Cdn/US and with the current morons in DC and their
creation of global ill will - I'd just as soon be in a Cdn boat.

Well, put your money where your mouth is and move back.

Canadian buying a Florida boat
 

Dear Wally,

Speaking of $$$, me and wife are sucking every ****ing $$$ of social
security we can get - while cruising and living on the boat in Mexico.
Kiss my ass - So anyhow, we just fly a Cdn flag on the boat -
documented and homeported in Seattle - who gives a ****. Not me.



On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:00:00 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:01:42 -0800, bc wrote:

I looked into moving my boat to Cdn registration recently because I'm
dual citizenship Cdn/US and with the current morons in DC and their
creation of global ill will - I'd just as soon be in a Cdn boat.

Well, put your money where your mouth is and move back.