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izibiz January 22nd 08 10:01 AM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
Hi,
I was just wondering about the large response about the drip coffee
topic and if there are any Espresso lovers out there.

As we own a catamaran we always cook underway, hobby of my wife, she
cooks, I eat, yeah, I am a little overweight.

But we are Espresso lovers, what I am looking for is something like a
Baby Gaggia, but in a plastic housing, approx 19bar pressure, no
automatic, no Nespresso (they do not carry my favourite Arabica
beans).

Anyone any idea for a small and lightweight, if possible front only
operated (watercontainer) espresso maker?

regards,

Henry


Gordon January 22nd 08 05:24 PM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
izibiz wrote:
Hi,
I was just wondering about the large response about the drip coffee
topic and if there are any Espresso lovers out there.

As we own a catamaran we always cook underway, hobby of my wife, she
cooks, I eat, yeah, I am a little overweight.

But we are Espresso lovers, what I am looking for is something like a
Baby Gaggia, but in a plastic housing, approx 19bar pressure, no
automatic, no Nespresso (they do not carry my favourite Arabica
beans).

Anyone any idea for a small and lightweight, if possible front only
operated (watercontainer) espresso maker?

regards,

Henry


And don't forget the grinder! You can't possibly be without a $150
burr grinder. And remember, if you can smell the coffee beans after
grinding, you waited to long and lost some of the flavor!
These people on alt.coffee ARE definitely over caffinated.
Gordon

Vic Smith January 22nd 08 05:33 PM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:24:10 +0000, Gordon wrote:

izibiz wrote:
Hi,
I was just wondering about the large response about the drip coffee
topic and if there are any Espresso lovers out there.

As we own a catamaran we always cook underway, hobby of my wife, she
cooks, I eat, yeah, I am a little overweight.

But we are Espresso lovers, what I am looking for is something like a
Baby Gaggia, but in a plastic housing, approx 19bar pressure, no
automatic, no Nespresso (they do not carry my favourite Arabica
beans).

Anyone any idea for a small and lightweight, if possible front only
operated (watercontainer) espresso maker?

regards,

Henry


And don't forget the grinder! You can't possibly be without a $150
burr grinder. And remember, if you can smell the coffee beans after
grinding, you waited to long and lost some of the flavor!
These people on alt.coffee ARE definitely over caffinated.
Gordon


Heh heh. I'm real picky about coffee at home, but on a boat even
instant will do. Just have to make a little adjustment.

--Vic

Justin C[_7_] January 22nd 08 07:51 PM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
In article , Vic Smith wrote:

Heh heh. I'm real picky about coffee at home, but on a boat even
instant will do. Just have to make a little adjustment.


I'm picky about coffee wherever I am... and it just ain't the same at
sea... somehow the air makes it taste different.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Justin C[_7_] January 22nd 08 07:57 PM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
In article , izibiz wrote:

Anyone any idea for a small and lightweight, if possible front only
operated (watercontainer) espresso maker?


We use a Gaggia 'Coffee' at home:

http://tinyurl.com/38p8zl (http://preview.tinyurl.com/38p8zl)

It's petite, but plenty sturdy enough for rough handling. A couple of
down-sides, you did request 19 bar, this is around 10; the water tank is
not very big... mind you, that also means not much to spill in a
knock-down.... but you're in a cat.... hmmmm.

Over here it's the equivalent of about $300 US, the coffee freaks seem
to rate it quite highly too, in the bangs per buck department there's
not much to beat it... and it makes a good shot... I'm still trying to
get it to produce creme though (not enough practice with it yet).

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Jere Lull January 23rd 08 03:18 AM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
On 2008-01-22 12:33:09 -0500, Vic Smith said:

Heh heh. I'm real picky about coffee at home, but on a boat even
instant will do. Just have to make a little adjustment.

--Vic


I'm not picky but instant isn't coffee; neither is any form of decaf.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


izibiz January 24th 08 10:38 AM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
Hi Justin,

get good quality Arabica espresso roast beans (try gastro-supply as
good quality you usually will not find at super markets), might be
darker or lighter accoding to taste and, so you have a Gaggia grinder
too, set it quite fine (eg. Nr. 4 is good for our coffee). Water
should be soft and not chlorinated, in some countries it needs bottled
destilled water, the water maker on board is fine.

Because there were so many negative comments, I have 2 Baby Gaggia
sets (15bar is correct), home and office, both 31 years old, all
repairs needed was twice the gasket at the coffee carrier. A DIY as
the quaterly anti-stain-flush. Maybe over all those years with a
Melitta filter I would have spend more money on paper only. Not to
forget the danger of handling boiling water. My "150 buck-grinder" for
the boat is a Braun/Germany and 37 years old, so much for spending.
And why on board, we prepare for a 5 to 10 year cruise, some basic
luxury makes life worthwhile, the rest is quite spartan because of
weight restrictions.

Yes, I do like a good Cappuccino, but I have reflux too and any other
type of coffee has just to much acid and I then heartburn. I can not
even drink a Robusta/Arabica-mix. Decaf is the worst of all. No, soft
drinks, no alcohol, exept a little port now and then, not even a
bottle a year, no fat.

What is nice with the (old?) Gaggias, they have theaded mounting holes
at the bottom, no danger of flying around in heavy seas, but for a
light displacement cat they are very heavy, maybe I try on ebay for a
used one, strip the housing and use it as a "built-in unit".

Enjoy your Gaggia, they are really good, forget the automatics, they
are very noisy and require monthly an hour to clean . We tried the
most reputable (and expensive) Swiss Jura and switched back to our old
manual Gaggia.

Henry

On Jan 23, 3:57 am, Justin C wrote:

We use a Gaggia 'Coffee' at home:
I'm still trying to get it to produce creme though (not enough practice with it yet).

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.



izibiz January 24th 08 10:39 AM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
Hi Justin,

get good quality Arabica espresso roast beans (try gastro-supply as
good quality you usually will not find at super markets), might be
darker or lighter accoding to taste and, so you have a Gaggia grinder
too, set it quite fine (eg. Nr. 4 is good for our coffee). Water
should be soft and not chlorinated, in some countries it needs bottled
destilled water, the water maker on board is fine.

Because there were so many negative comments, I have 2 Baby Gaggia
sets (15bar is correct), home and office, both 31 years old, all
repairs needed was twice the gasket at the coffee carrier. A DIY as
the quaterly anti-stain-flush. Maybe over all those years with a
Melitta filter I would have spend more money on paper only. Not to
forget the danger of handling boiling water. My "150 buck-grinder" for
the boat is a Braun/Germany and 37 years old, so much for spending.
And why on board, we prepare for a 5 to 10 year cruise, some basic
luxury makes life worthwhile, the rest is quite spartan because of
weight restrictions.

Yes, I do like a good Cappuccino, but I have reflux too and any other
type of coffee has just to much acid and I then heartburn. I can not
even drink a Robusta/Arabica-mix. Decaf is the worst of all. No, soft
drinks, no alcohol, exept a little port now and then, not even a
bottle a year, no fat.

What is nice with the (old?) Gaggias, they have theaded mounting holes
at the bottom, no danger of flying around in heavy seas, but for a
light displacement cat they are very heavy, maybe I try on ebay for a
used one, strip the housing and use it as a "built-in unit".

Enjoy your Gaggia, they are really good, forget the automatics, they
are very noisy and require monthly an hour to clean . We tried the
most reputable (and expensive) Swiss Jura and switched back to our old
manual Gaggia.

Henry

On Jan 23, 3:57 am, Justin C wrote:

We use a Gaggia 'Coffee' at home:
I'm still trying to get it to produce creme though (not enough practice with it yet).

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.



Matt O'Toole January 24th 08 10:37 PM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:01:24 -0800, izibiz wrote:

Hi,
I was just wondering about the large response about the drip coffee
topic and if there are any Espresso lovers out there.

As we own a catamaran we always cook underway, hobby of my wife, she
cooks, I eat, yeah, I am a little overweight.

But we are Espresso lovers, what I am looking for is something like a
Baby Gaggia, but in a plastic housing, approx 19bar pressure, no
automatic, no Nespresso (they do not carry my favourite Arabica beans).

Anyone any idea for a small and lightweight, if possible front only
operated (watercontainer) espresso maker?


Well, there's the bike-pump-operated Handpresso:

http://www.handpresso.fr/products/wild-EN.html

Seriously, if you're looking for small, some of the stovetop ones from
Italy work very well indeed. Not the hex shaped ones, but the ones where
the coffee comes out of a thin tube spout into a cup. They've evolved
over the years so that despite their simple design, the pressure,
temperature, etc., is exactly right and they produce perfect shots of
espresso -- better than most of the small electric machines.

And yes, I'm a coffee snob.

Matt O.

Justin C[_7_] January 25th 08 06:22 PM

ESPRESSO maker wanted, light weight, no Nespresso
 
In article , izibiz wrote:
Hi Justin,

get good quality Arabica espresso roast beans (try gastro-supply as
good quality you usually will not find at super markets), might be
darker or lighter accoding to taste and, so you have a Gaggia grinder
too, set it quite fine (eg. Nr. 4 is good for our coffee). Water
should be soft and not chlorinated, in some countries it needs bottled
destilled water, the water maker on board is fine.


[snip]

Thanks for the comments Henry. I hope they're useful to others too.
Definitely some things to think about... going to have to get one of
those power usage devices and see what the Gaggia draws before I decide
whether I'd have it on a boat or not.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.


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