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Paul Cassel January 20th 08 03:57 AM

Coffee makers?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee,


These things take enormous power to run even if you can find one which
operates well underway. It'd be like running an electric iron. OTOH, if
you only mean to use it while at dock by shore power, I'd guess anything
will do. Do you expect to run this thing while underway on a sailboat?

My personal experience while underway is that the LEAST of my concerns
about hot liquids is the exact coffee blend or how good it tastes.
Anything hot tastes wonderful.

Glenn Ashmore January 20th 08 03:43 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee maker
with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without taking up much
space and not end up on the deck. Finally found this:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...8527&id=860319
at Defender.

Anyone seen one of these in person? Most built in coffee makers run two
boat bucks or more. I am wondering if this thing is built well enough to
hold up.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



Glenn Ashmore January 20th 08 04:52 PM

Coffee makers?
 
I am setting Rutu up as an island hopper that will spend days at anchor so I
want some creature comforts. The advantage of a thermal carafe type maker
is that it takes about 7 minutes to brew and then cuts off. At the rated
1000 watts that works out to about 11 AH. allowing for losses in the
inverter. Rutu has an 850 AH house bank and a pair of 120W solar panels so I
am going to indulge myself a little. :-)

What worries me more is a crew of 2 women who don't feel civilized away from
their hair dryers. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
. ..
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee,


These things take enormous power to run even if you can find one which
operates well underway. It'd be like running an electric iron. OTOH, if
you only mean to use it while at dock by shore power, I'd guess anything
will do. Do you expect to run this thing while underway on a sailboat?

My personal experience while underway is that the LEAST of my concerns
about hot liquids is the exact coffee blend or how good it tastes.
Anything hot tastes wonderful.




Larry January 20th 08 05:06 PM

Coffee makers?
 
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in
:

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee
maker with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without
taking up much space and not end up on the deck.


http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-D.../dp/B00006IUVD

My fav - $17.

Makes 1.8 cup in a travel mug in about 90 seconds.
Uses NO FILTER PAPER. Has a permanent gold-plated screen that washes
easily. No coffee filters to stink up the place. Just dump the grounds
overboard after a couple of cups. The filter recycles!

You can buy extra mugs to make as many "pots" as you need from Black and
Decker cheap.

No 10 cups of sloshing coffee JUST WAITING TO CRASH in a rogue wave. The
1.8 cup mug FITS IN ANY GIMBAL DRINK HOLDER and is spill-proof because it
has a closing cap. Open, drink, close, leave in drink holder.

6x6x10" uses LOTS LESS space than any POT brewer. You always get the very
freshest cup when you make them as you drink them.....

1.2KW for 90 seconds with NO WASTE COFFEE leftovers is much easier on Amp-
Hour drains from the house batteries.

Did I mention the whole boat doesn't have to smell like the last watch's
COFFEE FILTER!....(C;


Larry January 20th 08 05:10 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Paul Cassel wrote in news:
:

Do you expect to run this thing while underway on a sailboat?


The 1.8 cup B&D draws 1.5KW, I think, for 90 seconds. That cup of coffee
drains 2.7AH off the house batteries....hardly anything. It only runs for
90 seconds per cup and there's no wasted cups!

50AH makes 18 cups, enough to drown most any coffee hound....(c;


Sir Thomas of Cannondale January 20th 08 06:29 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Nothing wrong with a good cup of java, I love coffee. I use a perk coffee
maker, with the old alcohol stove.

But .. I was just thinking ..

How did old Joshua Slocum get all the way around the world without any of
these fancy things we yachtspeople
have today?


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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee maker
with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without taking up much
space and not end up on the deck. Finally found this:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...8527&id=860319
at Defender.

Anyone seen one of these in person? Most built in coffee makers run two
boat bucks or more. I am wondering if this thing is built well enough to
hold up.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com





Wayne.B January 20th 08 06:30 PM

Coffee makers?
 
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:52:53 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:

What worries me more is a crew of 2 women who don't feel civilized away from
their hair dryers. :-)


We find that hair dryers require generator time.

For coffee we like Melita filters with the plastic cone and the paper
filters. They are cheap and make great coffee, just add boiled water
from some source.

Vic Smith January 20th 08 06:42 PM

Coffee makers?
 
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:30:43 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:52:53 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:

What worries me more is a crew of 2 women who don't feel civilized away from
their hair dryers. :-)


We find that hair dryers require generator time.

For coffee we like Melita filters with the plastic cone and the paper
filters. They are cheap and make great coffee, just add boiled water
from some source.


That's my tendency, even at home, because coffee gets old fast after
brewing, even in an unheated thermos, and I hate throwing it away.
But I've found the metering of water through the filter as done by a
drip coffeemaker somehow always tastes better. Same with gold
filters. They don't provide the flow rate of paper through the
grounds. It's all personal taste, and I'm always looking for
coffeemaker that will make a good single *big* cup of coffee at a
time. Might try one of those Larry recommended, but use the paper
filter.

--Vic

Markus Baertschi January 20th 08 09:12 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
At the rated 1000 watts that works out to about 11 AH.


1000W@12V takes towards 90A. You'll need a good inverter for this to work.


Markus

Brian Whatcott January 20th 08 09:59 PM

Coffee makers?
 
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:12:22 +0100, Markus Baertschi
wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
At the rated 1000 watts that works out to about 11 AH.


1000W@12V takes towards 90A. You'll need a good inverter for this to work.


Markus


Errr...that would be a 1000W or a 1500W inverter, I assume?

Brian W

mr.b January 20th 08 10:10 PM

Coffee makers?
 
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:35:58 +0000, salty wrote:

Get yourself a French Press. Very easy to use, and doesn't need any
electricity. Makes drip coffee seem like dishwater by comparison.


absolutely, ours is stainless steel which given my history of breaking
glass Bodum's was a very thoughtful gift


Gordon January 20th 08 10:44 PM

Coffee makers?
 
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:43:20 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore" wrote:

Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee maker
with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without taking up much
space and not end up on the deck. Finally found this:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...8527&id=860319
at Defender.

Anyone seen one of these in person? Most built in coffee makers run two
boat bucks or more. I am wondering if this thing is built well enough to
hold up.


Get yourself a French Press. Very easy to use, and doesn't need any electricity.
Makes drip coffee seem like dishwater by comparison.



Nah, go with Aeropress. ;) And if you really want to argue, go to
alt.coffee
Gordon

No Name January 20th 08 11:55 PM

Coffee makers?
 

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:43:20 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:

Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee
maker with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without taking
up much space and not end up on the deck. Finally found this:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...8527&id=860319
at Defender.

Anyone seen one of these in person? Most built in coffee makers run two
boat bucks or more. I am wondering if this thing is built well enough
to hold up.


Get yourself a French Press. Very easy to use, and doesn't need any
electricity.
Makes drip coffee seem like dishwater by comparison.



Nah, go with Aeropress. ;) And if you really want to argue, go to
alt.coffee
Gordon


Technically Aeropress should produce a better cup of coffee:
http://www.aerobie.com/Products/aeropress_story.htm
The practically of the Aeropress on a sailboat may vary from one sailor to
another.
My questions a can it keep the coffee hot by not leaving it on the stove
unattended while in the cockpit sailing alone:
will it construction resist breakage and finally how much water will it take
to clean it after use?

What I have on my boat is the Nissan Thermo French coffee press:
http://www.greenmountaincoffee.com/p...malFrenchPress
I find it very practical to make coffee directly into the stainless steel
thermo bottle.
Then I can bring the SS thermo bottle full of freshly made coffee in the
cockpit and drink it at will.
When the going gets rough I do not have to go in the cabin to boil water or
to get coffee.
As the construction is made of SS I do not have to be careful as with glass.
What I do not like about it is to get the used coffee ground out of the
thermo for disposal.

Having said that I will get an Aeropress for the next season and first try
it at home then at anchor.
Maybe, then, I will get rid of my Moka Bialetti that I find a little awkward
to use.


To each it own, See



Bob January 21st 08 02:03 AM

Coffee makers?
 
On Jan 20, 7:43*am, "Glenn Ashmore" wrote:
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. *:-)

Being addicted to drip coffee,



I tried the french press when I got it for a present.

I now use a method learned when I spent 9 months on a Polish factory
trawler in the Bering Sea and later Hake off OR WA coast. The bridge
guys would grind beans and put it in a small can at begining of each
watch. THen when ya wanted a cup ya just boiled some water and put a
couple spoons full of coffee in the cup. Pour in the water.... let sit
for a while....HOT COFFEE. just like instant sanka. Just dont go
stirring up the stuff on the bottom of the cup.

Thats my prefered method now. Simple and another thing I dont have to
fret over, think about, buy, maintain, break.... buy again bla bla.
But im also the guy who threw out my solon table and cockpit cocktail
center piece. Its amazing how simple and easy life becomes when you
learn to do things another way. Heck, we were told, taught,
manipulated to beive we had to have coffee pots. So why cant we just
learn to do it a simpler cheeper way???? Oh, ya 2/3 of our nations
economy is from people buying ****.

Bob

Leanne January 21st 08 02:29 AM

Coffee makers?
 
"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 7:43 am, "Glenn Ashmore" wrote:
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee,



I tried the french press when I got it for a present.

I now use a method learned when I spent 9 months on a Polish factory
trawler in the Bering Sea and later Hake off OR WA coast. The bridge
guys would grind beans and put it in a small can at begining of each
watch. THen when ya wanted a cup ya just boiled some water and put a
couple spoons full of coffee in the cup. Pour in the water.... let sit
for a while....HOT COFFEE. just like instant sanka. Just dont go
stirring up the stuff on the bottom of the cup.

Thats my prefered method now. Simple and another thing I dont have to
fret over, think about, buy, maintain, break.... buy again bla bla.
But im also the guy who threw out my solon table and cockpit cocktail
center piece. Its amazing how simple and easy life becomes when you
learn to do things another way. Heck, we were told, taught,
manipulated to beive we had to have coffee pots. So why cant we just
learn to do it a simpler cheeper way???? Oh, ya 2/3 of our nations
economy is from people buying ****.

Bob, you forgot to add made in China.

Leanne



Glenn Ashmore January 21st 08 05:37 AM

Coffee makers?
 
Installed a Prosine 3.0 last Fall. That big enough? :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:12:22 +0100, Markus Baertschi
wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
At the rated 1000 watts that works out to about 11 AH.


1000W@12V takes towards 90A. You'll need a good inverter for this to work.


Markus


Errr...that would be a 1000W or a 1500W inverter, I assume?

Brian W




Glenn Ashmore January 21st 08 05:39 AM

Coffee makers?
 
Mrs. Slocum was not sailing with him. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
...
Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote:
Nothing wrong with a good cup of java, I love coffee. I use a perk
coffee maker, with the old alcohol stove.

But .. I was just thinking ..

How did old Joshua Slocum get all the way around the world without any of
these fancy things we yachtspeople
have today?

Uncomfortably?




Brian Whatcott January 21st 08 05:40 AM

Coffee makers?
 
That might just about do it - so long as you kept the number of
simultaneous brews to three or less? :-)

Brian W

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:37:32 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:

Installed a Prosine 3.0 last Fall. That big enough? :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore


On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:12:22 +0100, Markus Baertschi
wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
At the rated 1000 watts that works out to about 11 AH.


1000W@12V takes towards 90A. You'll need a good inverter for this to work.


Markus



Glenn Ashmore January 21st 08 06:07 AM

Coffee makers?
 
The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want a cup
you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out the coffee and
pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or 10 cup maker you fill
it when your watch starts and just run below and pour a cup when you need
it.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee maker
with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without taking up much
space and not end up on the deck. Finally found this:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...8527&id=860319
at Defender.

Anyone seen one of these in person? Most built in coffee makers run two
boat bucks or more. I am wondering if this thing is built well enough to
hold up.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com





Peter W. Meek January 21st 08 03:30 PM

Coffee makers?
 
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:29:28 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote:

How did old Joshua Slocum get all the way around the world without any of
these fancy things we yachtspeople
have today?


"...I studied with diligence Neptune's laws,
and these laws I tried to obey..." [Joshua Slocum]

Almost like poetry, but it was clipped from the middle
of a paragraph in his book. True, it isn't how he managed
without modern conveniences, but simply how he made it
around the oceans.
--Pete
Peter W. Meek
http://www.msen.com/~pwmeek/

Peggie Hall January 21st 08 03:42 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want a cup
you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out the coffee and
pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or 10 cup maker you fill
it when your watch starts and just run below and pour a cup when you need
it.


Nobody has mentioned the Melita cone. I've used one for years. Put the
ground coffee--a cupful or a potful--in a paper filter in the cone, pour
boiling water through it. Makes coffee as good as that from any drip
coffee maker.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/boat_odors/

RichH January 21st 08 04:10 PM

Coffee makers?
 
http://www.nextag.com/Frieling-Frenc...05/prices-html

I use an insulated Frieling French Press if Im not going to drink it
all right away. Or a Melita drip if I am going to be drinking it all
right away. You heat the water on the stove top and pour - could be
easier.

I think the important thing is to have the coffee fresh FRESH ground
from good beans.



Jim January 21st 08 04:42 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Peggie Hall wrote:
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want
a cup you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out
the coffee and pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or
10 cup maker you fill it when your watch starts and just run below and
pour a cup when you need it.


Nobody has mentioned the Melita cone. I've used one for years. Put the
ground coffee--a cupful or a potful--in a paper filter in the cone, pour
boiling water through it. Makes coffee as good as that from any drip
coffee maker.


I use a funnel (because I accidentally threw my Melita cone out), heat
the water the old way and put the coffee in a thermal carafe. If it's a
good one, your coffee will be drinkable tomorrow.

I think the funnel works better than the cone because it fits the carafe
better and won't slip off like the cone used to.

My coffee maker works fine off of my 1000 watt inverter but I would
never do it that way.

I kind of like using the stove. It's far more efficient.

Bruce in alaska January 21st 08 07:41 PM

Coffee makers?
 

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:29:28 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote:

How did old Joshua Slocum get all the way around the world without any of
these fancy things we yachtspeople
have today?


the same way Magellen did it.... Good Seamanship......

--
Bruce in alaska
add path after fast to reply

Glenn Ashmore January 21st 08 08:16 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Well, first off the carafe is locked in place in the CCM1000 so it won't
fall out of the maker and it has a lid that has to be pressed to pour. That
reduces the chance of a spill.

With the pour through cones you have to handle a pot of boiling water and
hold every thing steady while you pour it through the coffee every time you
want a cup. Be it 10 oz or 100oz boiling water hurts the same. Been there
done that about 200 miles ESE of Bermuda at 3AM. Good thing I was wearing
my foulies. :-) That's WHY I have been looking for an alternative.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
. ..
Peggie Hall wrote:
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want a
cup you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out the
coffee and pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or 10 cup
maker you fill it when your watch starts and just run below and pour a
cup when you need it.


Nobody has mentioned the Melita cone. I've used one for years. Put the
ground coffee--a cupful or a potful--in a paper filter in the cone, pour
boiling water through it. Makes coffee as good as that from any drip
coffee maker.

Some one did mention Melita and I was about to myself. That's what we
used.

Glenn, you are now talking about being 'on watch' which implies using this
device underway. I don't think that practical from a movement view and
from a power usage view.

Have you done much sailing? I can't see some device with 12 cups (what,
100 oz?) of boiling fluid as something I want to contend with while
underway. I doubt you can pour it into a cup anyway.

-paul




Peggie Hall January 21st 08 08:25 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:

With the pour through cones you have to handle a pot of boiling water and
hold every thing steady while you pour it through the coffee every time you
want a cup.


That's only true of the single cup system. Melita has a larger cone to
fill a carafe...WHICH, based on your previous comments, I assumed you'd
make while at anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/boat_odors/

Evan Gatehouse[_2_] January 22nd 08 02:16 AM

Coffee makers?
 
Alan Gomes wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want
a cup you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out
the coffee and pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or
10 cup maker you fill it when your watch starts and just run below
and pour a cup when you need it.


Nobody has mentioned the Melita cone. I've used one for years. Put the
ground coffee--a cupful or a potful--in a paper filter in the cone,
pour boiling water through it. Makes coffee as good as that from any
drip coffee maker.

I mentioned it! :-)
--AG


I'm not a coffee drinker but my wife likes her French presses. After
I killed 2 glass ones, she bought this s.s. insulated one from Starbucks.

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/coffeepresses.asp
(2nd one down)

Pouring hot water goes straight into it, and tilting isn't that big a
deal on our catamaran. Keeps coffee hot for about 2 hours but never
seems to last that long with only her drinking it...

Evan Gatehouse

Paul Cassel January 22nd 08 04:24 AM

Coffee makers?
 
Peggie Hall wrote:
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want
a cup you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out
the coffee and pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or
10 cup maker you fill it when your watch starts and just run below and
pour a cup when you need it.


Nobody has mentioned the Melita cone. I've used one for years. Put the
ground coffee--a cupful or a potful--in a paper filter in the cone, pour
boiling water through it. Makes coffee as good as that from any drip
coffee maker.

Some one did mention Melita and I was about to myself. That's what we used.

Glenn, you are now talking about being 'on watch' which implies using
this device underway. I don't think that practical from a movement view
and from a power usage view.

Have you done much sailing? I can't see some device with 12 cups (what,
100 oz?) of boiling fluid as something I want to contend with while
underway. I doubt you can pour it into a cup anyway.

-paul

Jere Lull January 22nd 08 06:20 AM

Coffee makers?
 
On 2008-01-21 01:07:11 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore" said:

The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want a
cup you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out the
coffee and pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or 10
cup maker you fill it when your watch starts and just run below and
pour a cup when you need it.


We've been using an old camping drip maker for a couple of decades;
something like this:
http://www.bbq.com/item_name_Cajun-Cookware-7-Cup-Aluminum-Drip-Coffee-Maker_path__item_316937.html

Boil

the water in another pot. Makes a quart which we put it in a SS thermos
that goes directly to the cockpit except when it's nasty. The SS
doesn't stay hot as long as a glass vacuum thermos, but doesn't break
and we rarely have any left over.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Steve Lusardi January 22nd 08 05:36 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Glenn,
I know everyone has an opinion and I am no exception. I am single and I love
my coffee. Everyone that visits wants a cuppa and I found a solution 6 years
ago to fresh coffee 24 & 7 on demand. It makes no sense in my situation to
make a pot of coffee when I am alone and instant just doesn't cut it. Please
consider the Saeco Brand automatic coffee makers. They grind the coffee and
brew the cup on demand. The quality is phenominal. You can adjust the grind,
the temperature and the strength at will. They make expresso, cappacino, tea
and cocao. They have the facility to steam milk or cream as well. They are
not inexpensive, but they are well worth the money. These are machines you
make space for. For size, my machine is 13" wide, 11" deep and 15" tall.
Depending on the model, these measurements can be more or less. They are
very reliable and parts are available world wide if needed. They are all
high impact plastic, except for the guts. You must use filtered water, but
that is a no brainer anyway. They are very easy to secure in place and you
never have to worry about splashing hot water. You can drop about $500 on
one and more, but you can find them on eBay reasonably. I swear by mine. It
will spoil you for anything else.
Steve

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee maker
with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without taking up much
space and not end up on the deck. Finally found this:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...8527&id=860319
at Defender.

Anyone seen one of these in person? Most built in coffee makers run two
boat bucks or more. I am wondering if this thing is built well enough to
hold up.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com





druid January 22nd 08 10:45 PM

Coffee makers?
 
On Jan 21, 8:24 pm, Paul Cassel
wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The thing about single cup coffee brewing is that every time you want
a cup you have to go below, fill a pot, boil the water, measure out
the coffee and pour it all through the filter or press. With an 8 or
10 cup maker you fill it when your watch starts and just run below and
pour a cup when you need it.


Nobody has mentioned the Melita cone. I've used one for years. Put the
ground coffee--a cupful or a potful--in a paper filter in the cone, pour
boiling water through it. Makes coffee as good as that from any drip
coffee maker.


Some one did mention Melita and I was about to myself. That's what we used.

Glenn, you are now talking about being 'on watch' which implies using
this device underway. I don't think that practical from a movement view
and from a power usage view.

Have you done much sailing? I can't see some device with 12 cups (what,
100 oz?) of boiling fluid as something I want to contend with while
underway. I doubt you can pour it into a cup anyway.

-paul


As an avid but non-snobbish coffeedrinker, I find perked coffee is
pretty much as good as drip. Put the (bottled) water in the coffeepot,
add fresh-ground coffee in the top, put it on the gimballed stove with
potholders, and VOILA: coffee about as quick as instant, made
underway. No spillage, no electricity, no wasted paper. Remove the top
part with the dregs, turn the stove down to low and drink at your
leisure...

'Course, if you're a fisherman or tug-worker, leave the dregs in, let
it continue to boil until by 2pm you can use it to repair holes in the
hull. No matter - drown the taste with rum... :o ;)

druid
http://www.bcboatnet.org

Glenn Ashmore January 22nd 08 11:34 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Just checked out the Saeco makers. WOW! I like my coffee but not quite that
much. Then again I could pawn it down the road to pay for an engine
overhaul. ;:-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Steve Lusardi" wrote in message
...
Glenn,
I know everyone has an opinion and I am no exception. I am single and I
love my coffee. Everyone that visits wants a cuppa and I found a solution
6 years ago to fresh coffee 24 & 7 on demand. It makes no sense in my
situation to make a pot of coffee when I am alone and instant just doesn't
cut it. Please consider the Saeco Brand automatic coffee makers. They
grind the coffee and brew the cup on demand. The quality is phenominal.
You can adjust the grind, the temperature and the strength at will. They
make expresso, cappacino, tea and cocao. They have the facility to steam
milk or cream as well. They are not inexpensive, but they are well worth
the money. These are machines you make space for. For size, my machine is
13" wide, 11" deep and 15" tall. Depending on the model, these
measurements can be more or less. They are very reliable and parts are
available world wide if needed. They are all high impact plastic, except
for the guts. You must use filtered water, but that is a no brainer
anyway. They are very easy to secure in place and you never have to worry
about splashing hot water. You can drop about $500 on one and more, but
you can find them on eBay reasonably. I swear by mine. It will spoil you
for anything else.
Steve

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
Guess you can tell I am working on the galley/salon. :-)

Being addicted to drip coffee, I have been looking for a good coffee
maker with a thermal carafe that would fit in the galley without taking
up much space and not end up on the deck. Finally found this:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...8527&id=860319
at Defender.

Anyone seen one of these in person? Most built in coffee makers run two
boat bucks or more. I am wondering if this thing is built well enough to
hold up.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com







Paul Cassel January 23rd 08 04:14 AM

Coffee makers?
 
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Well, first off the carafe is locked in place in the CCM1000 so it won't
fall out of the maker and it has a lid that has to be pressed to pour. That
reduces the chance of a spill.

With the pour through cones you have to handle a pot of boiling water and
hold every thing steady while you pour it through the coffee every time you
want a cup. Be it 10 oz or 100oz boiling water hurts the same. Been there
done that about 200 miles ESE of Bermuda at 3AM. Good thing I was wearing
my foulies. :-) That's WHY I have been looking for an alternative.


I've lived aboard and sailed for 7 years. I doubt there was more than a
few days underway when I could see being able to brew coffee. It just
doesn't seem to be an issue really - I mean the quality of coffee beans,
etc. If you get something hot or at least not cold to eat or drink,
that's enough. I'm really skeptical that you'll feel justified if you
find a system. It seems to me like gilding a lily. I think you're
thinking too much like being ashore and not how you'll really feel at sea.

-paul

Richard Casady January 23rd 08 04:40 AM

Coffee makers?
 
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:45:06 -0800 (PST), druid
wrote:

'Course, if you're a fisherman or tug-worker, leave the dregs in, let
it continue to boil until by 2pm you can use it to repair holes in the
hull. No matter - drown the taste with rum... :o ;)


Repair holes? Don't you mean creat them? Assuming a steel hull, which
the guys mentioned mostly use. Actual battery acid is 33% h2s04 for
what its worth.

Casady

[email protected] February 5th 08 02:25 PM

Coffee makers?
 
Glenn,

A year or so back I stumbled into this built-in coffee maker, which I
purchased for my galley:

http://www.lancelarkin.com/htmls/brew.htm

It is similar to the one you found on Defender, but I suspect
significantly higher quality, and with decidedly more complex
plumbing. At first there was a bit of sticker shock, but I found one
on ebay well below half the sticker price. I think they have been
cracking down non-sanctioned vendors recently, however, so your
mileage may vary. I can't yet give you first hand experience with it,
as mine is still in the box awaiting the final fabrication of the
galley in my project boat.

The price of so many purchases on this project, from deck hardware to
the rising cost of epoxy, have triggered the sphincter clamping reflex
that its becoming harder to find a gauge for all the costs. But when I
take just one step back and remember the whole damn boat is just one
complex equation about a quality of life, the price of a decent cup of
coffee becomes a little more palatable (or so I've told myself).

Best regards,
Collin







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