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Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled
teenagers


Hi, Stacy,

I'm putting out your request to the various lists and forums I pester.

Lydia,
Your FlyingPigLog has inspired us to begin cruising in Oct 2008--with
our 15yr old daughter. This is "her hell-being stuck on a boat with
the 2 of us". I can think of nothing better than learning
geography, marine biology, world history, art/culture, first hand as
a cruiser. I am hoping you may know of another family cruising with
teenagers that might be willing to contact her. A positive response
from kids her age might get her excited.(we hope)

Keep in touch --we love reading your adventures and thanks for sharing
the FlyingPigLog.
stacy hall


Those of you reading who fit the bill - either current or past parents
of and more particularly the real-deal teenagers cruising full time,
homeschooled, etc., please responde to Stacy directly at stacyk40 at
hotmail (period sign) com...

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to
make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its
hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled teenagers
 

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off cruising.

========
"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
...
Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled
teenagers


Hi, Stacy,

I'm putting out your request to the various lists and forums I pester.

Lydia,
Your FlyingPigLog has inspired us to begin cruising in Oct 2008--with
our 15yr old daughter. This is "her hell-being stuck on a boat with
the 2 of us". I can think of nothing better than learning
geography, marine biology, world history, art/culture, first hand as
a cruiser. I am hoping you may know of another family cruising with
teenagers that might be willing to contact her. A positive response
from kids her age might get her excited.(we hope)

Keep in touch --we love reading your adventures and thanks for sharing
the FlyingPigLog.
stacy hall


Those of you reading who fit the bill - either current or past parents
of and more particularly the real-deal teenagers cruising full time,
homeschooled, etc., please responde to Stacy directly at stacyk40 at
hotmail (period sign) com...

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to
make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its
hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled teenagers
 

On 2008-01-09 17:17:11 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off cruising.

Oh, Gawd! You've definitely demonstrated your incompetence.

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled teenagers
 

Jere Lull wrote in news:2008011001022875249-
jerelull@maccom:

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.



I met a family who sold it all and spent a year in Taiwan as their Globe
Yacht was being custom built...way back in the 70's. They spent some
time here in Charleston, and like I did for Lydia and Skip but without so
much boatwork, I played guide and taxi driver.

Their two sons were taking high school by correspondence course from the
University of Nebraska in a special program the university had for mobile
families. Upon successful completion, their acceptance into the
university was automatic, a real deal for the boys.

They were both way ahead of their "grade" for their age and would
graduate "high school" about 2 years ahead of "normal" for American kids.
They were also world-class sailors who had completed the same courses
towards their Masters licenses as their father.

It was amusing about the sailing school. When they got to California
from Taiwan via Hawaii, there was a nasty letter from the school
threatening to drop them from the class as the school hadn't heard from
them in a timely manner. I got to see the follow up letter before they
left after they sent the school their "excuse" for being late.....that
they were successfully navigating and sailing across the Pacific Ocean
and couldn't find a proper post office in the appointed time...(c; The
school's letter was MOST apologetic...and encouraging them to continue.

I'll never forget the beautiful hand-carved pair of DRAGONS done in
polished teak that went from port to starboard over the forward main
cabin hatch that adorned the forward bulkhead. The work throughout the
boat was just beautiful. She was around 60-65' as I remember and quite
self-sufficient for world travel.

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled teenagers
 

The kids in my old neighborhood did about the same thing...

They left high school to go cruising .. but first they stopped off at Paris
Island to visit the Marine Corp.

They cruised here and there, stopping off every now and then to kill people.

Once they finished their tour, no one would hire them, they didn't have a
college education.

The tour company, aka-Uncle Sam's Cruising and Sailing LLC, didn't seem to
give a crap
about them.

Many of them got into the pharmacy business, some actually became alcohol
tasters.

Those businesses take their toll on a guy.

Now? They live on relief, hang out on street corners, talk about the good
old days of cruising.

Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year old
gets to go hang out
on mommy and daddy's yacht.

==============
"Larry" wrote in message
...
Jere Lull wrote in news:2008011001022875249-
jerelull@maccom:

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.



I met a family who sold it all and spent a year in Taiwan as their Globe
Yacht was being custom built...way back in the 70's. They spent some
time here in Charleston, and like I did for Lydia and Skip but without so
much boatwork, I played guide and taxi driver.

Their two sons were taking high school by correspondence course from the
University of Nebraska in a special program the university had for mobile
families. Upon successful completion, their acceptance into the
university was automatic, a real deal for the boys.

They were both way ahead of their "grade" for their age and would
graduate "high school" about 2 years ahead of "normal" for American kids.
They were also world-class sailors who had completed the same courses
towards their Masters licenses as their father.

It was amusing about the sailing school. When they got to California
from Taiwan via Hawaii, there was a nasty letter from the school
threatening to drop them from the class as the school hadn't heard from
them in a timely manner. I got to see the follow up letter before they
left after they sent the school their "excuse" for being late.....that
they were successfully navigating and sailing across the Pacific Ocean
and couldn't find a proper post office in the appointed time...(c; The
school's letter was MOST apologetic...and encouraging them to continue.

I'll never forget the beautiful hand-carved pair of DRAGONS done in
polished teak that went from port to starboard over the forward main
cabin hatch that adorned the forward bulkhead. The work throughout the
boat was just beautiful. She was around 60-65' as I remember and quite
self-sufficient for world travel.

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled teenagers
 

"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in
news:ZKohj.3904$K%6.3803@trndny04:

Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year
old gets to go hang out
on mommy and daddy's yacht.



Wow...are you in the wrong newsgroup.....

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooledteenagers
 

On Jan 9, 2:13 pm, Skip Gundlach wrote:

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled
teenagers

As a past Medium Security Juvenile Detention Facility (age 12-17)
Group Worker (guard), Oregon Licensed Teacher (K-8), past cruiser now
liveaboard, and good Dad to a daughter now 20 y.o.

Don't take you 15 year old cruising. A couple weeks WITH a friend is
fine. DO NOT think youre going to sail for months and she is going to
love learning geography-marine biology etc and develop a love for all
things you think you love. Besides, helping a kid learn (notice I did
not say "teach") is not a simple task. Try this.......... Go get a manual
titled, "Learn How To Fly". Read the book. Get into an airplane, Now
go take off, fly around and land. Silly analogy????? Then go help a
kid learn about two digit subtraction with regrouping. Or better
yet......... algebra in your case. Just because you have a book (home school
curriculum materials) don't mean its going work. You need to know what
your doing.

In other words, have you ever tried to tile a room, make your first
quilt, etc. Imagine how you ****ed up the first few times and had to
start over again before you got it right???
Now how you going to help your daughter learn algebra or persuasive
writing so they will pass the SATs. You AINT no teacher and your not
the center of your daughters universe. She would LOVE to visit you
with a friend. But 24/7 and no friends???? You got to be kidding. This
is a time when kids are doing their best to become independent adults.
Allow her to do that and stop being so god damn selfish. You are no
longer the center of her universe. SOrry to say they grow up and get
their won life. Give her that chance to grow up and let her stay with
relatives. Or maybe youre thingking "but noone is as good a parent as
me. I cant trust anyone with my daughter for that long." If so you
reall are one sick controlling parent.

At age 15 the most important thing in her life AINT YOU!

Bob

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Stacy,
We have been sailing with both our kids, two boys, since each of them were
born. They were two weeks old when they first went sailing and we have
sailed as a family ever since. Today one is in college and the other is
finishing high school.

I think that you are asking a lot from your daughter to leave at age 15 and
move onto the boat with you. The high school years are a time of
socialization for kids and a time that they want to be with there peers and
not with their elders. If you had been sailing as a family for all of her
formative years then your daughter may have continued for another year but
at age 15 or 16 she probably would have talked to you about her staying
ashore for her high school years.

My advice would be to sit out the next few years and when she walks out the
door for college, leap aboard and go. She can visit you for a few weeks
during vacations and she will appreciate the beautiful places that you bring
her for her breaks.

Cheers

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem

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Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year old
gets to go hang out on mommy and daddy's yacht.

Besides being a complete ass, you've obviously not followed any of the Skip
threads, nor met or even laid eyes on them or their boat. Had you even a
sliver of actual knowlege of the situation you wouldn't be stupid enough to
make such remarks.

But apparently you're just a gasbag with nothing but insults to share.
Jerk.

As for the experience, oy, that's asking for trouble. Even with already
being homeschooled you're asking far too much out a 15 year old to go along
with that sort of plan. As has been suggested you'd do better to send the
child off to school instead. But even then you'd be asking her to abandon
everything going on in her life. At 15 that's not going to be a pleasant
departure. You do well to seriously rethink the plan or be entirely sure
the girl wants to go along with it. That's not an age where that's
likely...

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Bill,, the overly sensitive guy ..

I have been following Captain Lydia and Crewmate Skip for ?? long time.
Before the shipwreck.

I never met them in person, then again, I doubt many of the posters here
have.

They seem like swell folks.

This in no way changes my opinion. If mommy and daddy want to go cruising,
great.
Leave the 15 year old in school.




"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year old
gets to go hang out on mommy and daddy's yacht.

Besides being a complete ass, you've obviously not followed any of the
Skip threads, nor met or even laid eyes on them or their boat. Had you
even a sliver of actual knowlege of the situation you wouldn't be stupid
enough to make such remarks.

But apparently you're just a gasbag with nothing but insults to share.
Jerk.

As for the experience, oy, that's asking for trouble. Even with already
being homeschooled you're asking far too much out a 15 year old to go
along with that sort of plan. As has been suggested you'd do better to
send the child off to school instead. But even then you'd be asking her
to abandon everything going on in her life. At 15 that's not going to be
a pleasant departure. You do well to seriously rethink the plan or be
entirely sure the girl wants to go along with it. That's not an age where
that's likely...

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooledteenagers
 

On Jan 10, 2:14*pm, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote:

This in no way changes my opinion. *If mommy and daddy want to go cruising,
great.
Leave the 15 year old in school.

"Bill Kearney"

Gee, seems as though all here for the first time have a consensous....

Ya, the 15 yo daughte needs to be sharpening her flirting and dating
skills. Kinda hard to do that on a boat. That is unless ya dont miind
the little **** working her magic on some of the old
crusiers............. Eeeewwww! Trust me when I say 15 yo girls
practice on dads. I guess they think its safe. For example, was on my
boat with three 15-16 yo girls they all start to pack out to go
swimming except one. She holds back and says Bob would you put the sun
block on my back... I say okay then she turns her back to me and drops
her top !?!?!!?!?

I have met about 12-15 homschooled teens. They are really great at:
read the book... take the test.... read the book.... take the test but
each lacked the other stuff like application, analysis, synthisis,
evaluation skills.

I like that one post who said use U of Nebraska curiculum cause the
Uof N give auto admission to thoes students. Now that seems a bit
fishy...... Buy our stuff and ya get in free??

Bob

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On Jan 10, 3:12 pm, "Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote:
Stacy,
We have been sailing with both our kids, two boys, since each of them were
born. They were two weeks old when they first went sailing and we have
sailed as a family ever since. Today one is in college and the other is
finishing high school.

I think that you are asking a lot from your daughter to leave at age 15 and
move onto the boat with you. The high school years are a time of
socialization for kids and a time that they want to be with there peers and
not with their elders. If you had been sailing as a family for all of her
formative years then your daughter may have continued for another year but
at age 15 or 16 she probably would have talked to you about her staying
ashore for her high school years.

My advice would be to sit out the next few years and when she walks out the
door for college, leap aboard and go. She can visit you for a few weeks
during vacations and she will appreciate the beautiful places that you bring
her for her breaks.

Cheers

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem

Hi, Ansley,

This doesn't do me any good because Stacy can't reply to your
thoughtful comments because I don't have your address to send to her.

Did you copy her directly on that?

L8R

Skip

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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-01-09 17:17:11 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off
cruising.

Oh, Gawd! You've definitely demonstrated your incompetence.

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum, they
know where they are and where they want to be.


What about the social skills they learn when they are in a school with
other students. You can't survive alone in the world you need to know
how to interact with others.

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BAR wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:

On 2008-01-09 17:17:11 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off
cruising.


Oh, Gawd! You've definitely demonstrated your incompetence.

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.


What about the social skills they learn when they are in a school with
other students. You can't survive alone in the world you need to know
how to interact with others.


No loss at all.
The times have changed, and social skills along with them.

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Hi, Skip (and Lydia),

Glad y'all are doing well.

I love newsgroups. You asked for responses by people who had
experience homeschooling and cruising. How many of those did you get,
as opposed to pontification by dickwads who know ****-all about ****-
all? Socialization! Jeezis Christ on Kaopectate, BAR, you're a ****ing
idiot. And, Bob, if you wanna defend the value of schooling, perhaps
you should lean your native ****ing tongue a bit better and lead us by
example, speaking of "knowing what you're doing."

Frank (*un*schooling for the last 5 or so years and I'll match my
kids' SAT scores, schoolish knowledge, and *especially* their ability
to function in the real world against any schooled kid)

P.S. Our older daughter was 13 when we moved aboard. She was not
enthused but she was willing and somewhat interested. I agree that
it's a tough thing for a teenager to break from everything she knows
to head into the unknown when it's not her own dream.

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On 2008-01-11 08:22:47 -0500, BAR said:

Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-01-09 17:17:11 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off cruising.

Oh, Gawd! You've definitely demonstrated your incompetence.

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.


What about the social skills they learn when they are in a school with
other students. You can't survive alone in the world you need to know
how to interact with others.

The ones I've known all had better social skills than the stay-at-home
kids who haven't experienced being sociable in international settings,
who have not been in situations where their interactions with others
directly affected their comfort or maybe their chance of survival, who
have never needed to accept real responsibility for their actions.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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A number of years ago, a guy in a town about 10 miles from me, built a big
old boat in his backyard.

When he started, there was an article in the newspaper. The family was
there, his kids were little.
The reporter asked them if they wanted to sail around the world, and they
said yes, they could not
wait to go.

A few years goes by .. another article in the newspaper. The guy was
finally finished with the home
built boat.

The reporter went to do a followup story. And of course, the reporter
wanted to ask the kids how
excited they were to sail around the world.

Guess what? The kids were "busy", they had no interest whatsoever of
sailing around the world.

In fact, they told the reporter that as far as they were concerned, it was a
nutty idea.

The guy got the boat trucked to the seacoast, put in. He used the boat for
coastal sailing when
he could find a crew.

The kids? They all went off to college, lived their lives.

There is nothing wrong with going cruising. In fact, in my opinion it is
wonderful.
But don't kid yourself, your children might not think it is as important as
you do.

For some good reading on a family that cruised together, even as the kids
became adults.
Read some of William F Buckley's sailing and cruising books.

Let the kids live their lives, and if they feel that cruising is what they
want to do,, good for them.
I do believe it is nutty to bring a 15 year old on a boat with mom and dad,
to go off cruising.
Who is the 15 year old going to socialize with? What about stuff like the
school dance, the prom,
clubs, sports, boyfriends, going to camp, going to the beach with friends,
...... can't you see, that
kids need to be with kids so they can grow up, then they can go cruising.






"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008011122182175249-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-01-11 08:22:47 -0500, BAR said:

Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-01-09 17:17:11 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off
cruising.

Oh, Gawd! You've definitely demonstrated your incompetence.

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum, they
know where they are and where they want to be.


What about the social skills they learn when they are in a school with
other students. You can't survive alone in the world you need to know how
to interact with others.

The ones I've known all had better social skills than the stay-at-home
kids who haven't experienced being sociable in international settings, who
have not been in situations where their interactions with others directly
affected their comfort or maybe their chance of survival, who have never
needed to accept real responsibility for their actions.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:11:59 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote:

Who is the 15 year old going to socialize with? What about stuff like the
school dance, the prom,
clubs, sports, boyfriends, going to camp, going to the beach with friends,
..... can't you see, that
kids need to be with kids so they can grow up, then they can go cruising.

During most of mankinds existence people lived in small villages, or
were members of small bands of nomads, and there were only a handful
of people within walking distance. There might be more people at the
average marina, than the average number of other people met in a
lifetime, throughout most of mankinds existance. The number is higher
today, but so what?

Casady

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On 2008-01-13 07:11:59 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

A number of years ago, a guy in a town about 10 miles from me, built a
big old boat in his backyard.
snip
A few years goes by .. another article in the newspaper. The guy was
finally finished with the home built boat.
snip
Guess what? The kids were "busy", they had no interest whatsoever of
sailing around the world.

Which points out to a primary reason for not home-building a boat: For
all those years, they were *working*, not out and learning the ropes,
building up experience, competence and confidence and enjoying family
bonding.

Let the kids live their lives, and if they feel that cruising is what
they want to do,, good for them.

You would let kids do only what they *want* to do? ;-)

Who is the 15 year old going to socialize with? What about stuff like
the school dance, the prom,
clubs, sports, boyfriends, going to camp, going to the beach with
friends, ..... can't you see, that
kids need to be with kids so they can grow up, then they can go cruising.

Cruisers, particularly those with kids, do *not* live in a vacuum --
always on the hook with no one else around. Kids are pretty much
*everywhere* in the world.

There are kids on other boats and on shore, and ports and marinas are
particularly good places to find responsible local kids -- who are more
than happy to socialize after (and during) work. A quick walk into town
finds the others.

"The beach" is a dink-ride away -- and they'll have a "driver's
license" and the freedom it gives years before the land-bound; they
*are* camping; various games "happen" wherever kids are; water sports
are almost unavoidable. Any place there are people, there will be
dances, socializing, partying, friendships, romances and so forth.
These days, they can even submerge themselves in the Wii/iPod/IM
culture, though such couch-potato things seem to be less appealing to
them with all the *activities* surrounding them. With fewer artificial
time-wasters, they are forced to pay more attention to the people and
places around them and since those things change, it's not the
same-old, same-old boring environment. There's always something new to
get out to see, new people (and kids) to get to know.

My observation of cruising kids at our docks has been that they form
new friendships almost immediately. Because they are periodically
forced to find new friends, they can't fall into the cliques that
inevitably form in static societies, so meet and befriend a wider range
of personality and values.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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Jere,, you and salty.. I could not disagree more.

I work with kids everyday. The last thing they want to do is go cruising
with mom and dad.

Now.. if you told them they could have the boat and to cruising with their
friends?

I shudder to think what the boat would look like after a month...




"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008011311161416807-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-01-13 07:11:59 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

A number of years ago, a guy in a town about 10 miles from me, built a
big old boat in his backyard.
snip
A few years goes by .. another article in the newspaper. The guy was
finally finished with the home built boat.
snip
Guess what? The kids were "busy", they had no interest whatsoever of
sailing around the world.

Which points out to a primary reason for not home-building a boat: For all
those years, they were *working*, not out and learning the ropes, building
up experience, competence and confidence and enjoying family bonding.

Let the kids live their lives, and if they feel that cruising is what
they want to do,, good for them.

You would let kids do only what they *want* to do? ;-)

Who is the 15 year old going to socialize with? What about stuff like
the school dance, the prom,
clubs, sports, boyfriends, going to camp, going to the beach with
friends, ..... can't you see, that
kids need to be with kids so they can grow up, then they can go cruising.

Cruisers, particularly those with kids, do *not* live in a vacuum --
always on the hook with no one else around. Kids are pretty much
*everywhere* in the world.

There are kids on other boats and on shore, and ports and marinas are
particularly good places to find responsible local kids -- who are more
than happy to socialize after (and during) work. A quick walk into town
finds the others.

"The beach" is a dink-ride away -- and they'll have a "driver's license"
and the freedom it gives years before the land-bound; they *are* camping;
various games "happen" wherever kids are; water sports are almost
unavoidable. Any place there are people, there will be dances,
socializing, partying, friendships, romances and so forth. These days,
they can even submerge themselves in the Wii/iPod/IM culture, though such
couch-potato things seem to be less appealing to them with all the
*activities* surrounding them. With fewer artificial time-wasters, they
are forced to pay more attention to the people and places around them and
since those things change, it's not the same-old, same-old boring
environment. There's always something new to get out to see, new people
(and kids) to get to know.

My observation of cruising kids at our docks has been that they form new
friendships almost immediately. Because they are periodically forced to
find new friends, they can't fall into the cliques that inevitably form in
static societies, so meet and befriend a wider range of personality and
values.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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Neighbor went aboard his 39' custom with wife and 3 month old kid in
Mexico. 13 years later moved off of boat with 5 children and wife. Kids
decided they wanted to spend high school times with other kids.
Kids were home schooled on the boat and are very well adapted to
life. One is a multiple linguist, Spanish, Japanese, and Polish and I
don't know what else. All have some college and a couple have graduated.
I guess the point is, when push came to shove, the kids wanted to be
on land with their peers at that point in life.
Gordon

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On Jan 13, 6:30*am, wrote:

I think that in general, you'll find that cruising kids, just like army brats,
are among the most skilled socializers on the face of the earth.

So taking a 15 crusing is a ggod idea????????????/

Try this............. YOUR parents show up in a 40' motor coach. They
are a "young" pair of early 80s.
They say its THEIR life dream to drive around the US stopping at
various casinos, bingo parlors, fleemarkets, and visit old friends
from their service days in WWll and Korea .

And you are comming.

You cant get out of it.No way! So say good by to your life and now
start living their geezer life style. Sure you love your parents and
it will be just great for the next three years traveling with them.
But you have to remember that THEY are the BOSS and you'll have to do
as they say or else. Now doesnt that sound like a bunch of fun.... :)

Have fun watching Wheel of Fortune and playing bingo!!!! Oh, and dont
for get thoes endless conversations about medications and
operations ! !

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Kids, no matter how old are not wanted in our coach. It is set up for the
two of us and anyone wants to visit, I am sure they can find a motel just
down the road.
We are not to our 80's, but do enjoy land cruising as well as the water
cruising.

Leanne


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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:03:25 -0800 (PST), Bob wrote:

On Jan 13, 6:30 am, wrote:

I think that in general, you'll find that cruising kids, just like army
brats,
are among the most skilled socializers on the face of the earth.

So taking a 15 crusing is a ggod idea????????????/


Step away from the bottle.

Try this............. YOUR parents show up in a 40' motor coach. They
are a "young" pair of early 80s.
They say its THEIR life dream to drive around the US stopping at
various casinos, bingo parlors, fleemarkets, and visit old friends
from their service days in WWll and Korea .

And you are comming.

You cant get out of it.No way! So say good by to your life and now
start living their geezer life style. Sure you love your parents and
it will be just great for the next three years traveling with them.
But you have to remember that THEY are the BOSS and you'll have to do
as they say or else. Now doesnt that sound like a bunch of fun.... :)

Have fun watching Wheel of Fortune and playing bingo!!!! Oh, and dont
for get thoes endless conversations about medications and
operations ! !



step FAR away from the bottle.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
...

Neighbor went aboard his 39' custom with wife and 3 month old kid in
Mexico. 13 years later moved off of boat with 5 children and wife. Kids
decided they wanted to spend high school times with other kids.
Kids were home schooled on the boat and are very well adapted to life.
One is a multiple linguist, Spanish, Japanese, and Polish and I don't know
what else. All have some college and a couple have graduated.
I guess the point is, when push came to shove, the kids wanted to be on
land with their peers at that point in life.
Gordon

I also know people who went cruising with and homeschooled their kids.

One couple were teachers on sabatical and they had two boys - one in middle
school and one in 9th grade. But they only did this for ONE YEAR. I think
it was good for the boys, but they did go back to school at the end of the
sabatical year.

One couple did a circumnavigation which took several years with two girls.
But the girls were about 11 and 14 when they came back, and then they went
back to a regular school.

I've also met boat kids who were being homeschooled. The ones who are teens
do suffer from not having peers, as, while there are folks in the marina,
they are usually older. I worried about them WRT whether they would make
inappropriate friendships because there were no age appropriate experiences
available.

My husband was in the Navy, so he moved around a good bit, and by the time
my oldest was in 7th grade, she had been in 7 different schools (and the
second one in 5th grade had been in 5 different schools). It was always
hard for my oldest to switch schools, but I don't think it impacted her
negatively overall. But when it came to teen years and high school, I
stayed put in one place and Bob just commuted back and forth when he was
transferred to another district (In our case, he was at one base in
Maryland from 1973 to 1977, and then went to Crystal City (northern
Virginia) for two years before he retired. So it was possible for him to
commute.)

But although I deplore the language used, I do agree that unless the 15 year
old WANTS to go with her parents on this adventure, I would not do that to
her. I'd find some way to either postpone the trip, or have her remain in
an environment where she could interact with other teens.