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Paul Cassel January 4th 08 04:26 AM

communication question
 
Ken Marino wrote:
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any suggestions
on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the question ) phone and
or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance for any and all
suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange of experiences with
any who have done or are doing similar trips.

I cruised this area using my Verizon standard plan phone. It worked
withing sight of land just fine. How far offshore are you planning on
needing a telephone?

Paul Cassel January 4th 08 11:17 AM

communication question
 
Ken Marino wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:26:29 -0700, Paul Cassel wrote:

Ken Marino wrote:
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any
suggestions on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the
question ) phone and or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance
for any and all suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange
of experiences with any who have done or are doing similar trips.

I cruised this area using my Verizon standard plan phone. It worked
withing sight of land just fine. How far offshore are you planning on
needing a telephone?


Thanks Paul, how bad were the per minute charges while in the Bahamas?


Sorry, I can't help you here. I never tried making a call there.

-paul

Ken Marino January 4th 08 01:37 PM

communication question
 
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any suggestions
on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the question ) phone and
or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance for any and all
suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange of experiences with
any who have done or are doing similar trips.


Sir Thomas of Cannondale January 4th 08 02:49 PM

communication question
 
Wait,, you have the money for a 40' yacht and you want to know what marine
telephone to use?

%^$4^*()64#$%%^$#

That' all I can tell ya.


=================
"Ken Marino" wrote in message
...
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any suggestions
on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the question ) phone and
or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance for any and all
suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange of experiences with
any who have done or are doing similar trips.




Geoff Schultz January 4th 08 02:54 PM

communication question
 
Ken Marino wrote in
:

Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about
6 months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend
2-3 months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any
suggestions on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the
question ) phone and or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance
for any and all suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange
of experiences with any who have done or are doing similar trips.



Get yourself the best plan for FL and/or wherever else you plan to cruise
in the US and place it on hold when you head to the Bahamas. Buy an
unlocked GSM phone for use in the Bahamas. You may be able to use the same
phone as you used in the States. For example, T-Mobile utilizes GSM phones
in the US. When you get to the Bahamas, purchase a SIM card from BATELCO
and purchase minutes as you go along. I think that it's about $1.15/minute
from the Bahamas to the US.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Ken Marino January 4th 08 03:39 PM

communication question
 
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:54:06 -0600, Geoff Schultz wrote:

Ken Marino wrote in
:

Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any
suggestions on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the
question ) phone and or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance
for any and all suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange
of experiences with any who have done or are doing similar trips.



Get yourself the best plan for FL and/or wherever else you plan to
cruise in the US and place it on hold when you head to the Bahamas. Buy
an unlocked GSM phone for use in the Bahamas. You may be able to use
the same phone as you used in the States. For example, T-Mobile
utilizes GSM phones in the US. When you get to the Bahamas, purchase a
SIM card from BATELCO and purchase minutes as you go along. I think
that it's about $1.15/minute from the Bahamas to the US.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org


Thanks Geoff,
Any suggestions on data-ie internet


Wayne.B January 4th 08 03:47 PM

communication question
 
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:54:06 -0600, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

Get yourself the best plan for FL and/or wherever else you plan to cruise
in the US and place it on hold when you head to the Bahamas. Buy an
unlocked GSM phone for use in the Bahamas. You may be able to use the same
phone as you used in the States. For example, T-Mobile utilizes GSM phones
in the US. When you get to the Bahamas, purchase a SIM card from BATELCO
and purchase minutes as you go along. I think that it's about $1.15/minute
from the Bahamas to the US.


That works, and there are a couple of other possibilities also. There
is good WiFi internet service available in much of the Bahamas which
means that you can also use Voice Over IP services such as Skype to
make calls at very reasonable prices if you are properly configured.
In addition, carry a hand held VHF radio with you when you go ashore.
People in the Bahamas use them for everything from calling a taxi to
just asking directions. Not legal in the US but very acceptable
there.

http://www.skype.com/


Dennis Pogson January 4th 08 03:48 PM

communication question
 
Ken Marino wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:54:06 -0600, Geoff Schultz wrote:

Ken Marino wrote in
:

Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat
about 6 months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan
to spend 2-3 months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the
latter. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is
out of the question ) phone and or data plans out there? Many
thanks in advance for any and all suggestions. Also open to
starting an ongoing exchange of experiences with any who have done
or are doing similar trips.



Get yourself the best plan for FL and/or wherever else you plan to
cruise in the US and place it on hold when you head to the Bahamas.
Buy an unlocked GSM phone for use in the Bahamas. You may be able
to use the same phone as you used in the States. For example,
T-Mobile utilizes GSM phones in the US. When you get to the
Bahamas, purchase a SIM card from BATELCO and purchase minutes as
you go along. I think that it's about $1.15/minute from the Bahamas
to the US.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org


Thanks Geoff,
Any suggestions on data-ie internet


Is there no wi-fi out there?

Dennis.



Geoff Schultz January 4th 08 03:54 PM

communication question
 
Ken Marino wrote in news:KO-
:

On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:54:06 -0600, Geoff Schultz wrote:

Ken Marino wrote in
:

Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any
suggestions on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the
question ) phone and or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance
for any and all suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange
of experiences with any who have done or are doing similar trips.



Get yourself the best plan for FL and/or wherever else you plan to
cruise in the US and place it on hold when you head to the Bahamas. Buy
an unlocked GSM phone for use in the Bahamas. You may be able to use
the same phone as you used in the States. For example, T-Mobile
utilizes GSM phones in the US. When you get to the Bahamas, purchase a
SIM card from BATELCO and purchase minutes as you go along. I think
that it's about $1.15/minute from the Bahamas to the US.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Thanks Geoff,
Any suggestions on data-ie internet


The Bahamas are a BIG place, so this question is highly dependent upon
where you are. You'll find OK coverage in the Abacos and Nassua, but it
falls off to near nothing outside of that. One of the major providers is
Out Island Internet and you can see their coverage map at

http://www.abacoinet.com/locations.html

Other than that you'll have to use public Internet at libraries or at
marinas. Don't expect to be connected on a daily basis unless you stay in
populated areas. I remember another provider, something like Coconut
Internet, but I can't find anything online about them. Recent cruising
guides to Bahamas will have ads for providers.

Oh, get yourself a good external WIFI antenna setup. This has been
discussed extensively in this forum. You can use the advanced search
function of groups.google.com to search for this info.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Wayne.B January 4th 08 04:42 PM

communication question
 
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:54:20 -0600, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

I remember another provider, something like Coconut
Internet, but I can't find anything online about them.


Coconut Telegraph. They also have a ham radio net on SSB:

0800 Coconut Telegraph 4003 KHz USB

Ken Marino January 4th 08 05:01 PM

communication question
 
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:26:29 -0700, Paul Cassel wrote:

Ken Marino wrote:
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any
suggestions on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the
question ) phone and or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance
for any and all suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange
of experiences with any who have done or are doing similar trips.

I cruised this area using my Verizon standard plan phone. It worked
withing sight of land just fine. How far offshore are you planning on
needing a telephone?


Thanks Paul, how bad were the per minute charges while in the Bahamas?


[email protected] January 4th 08 05:47 PM

communication question
 
"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote:
Wait,, you have the money for a 40' yacht and you want to know what marine
telephone to use?

%^$4^*()64#$%%^$#

That' all I can tell ya.


What a back porch Bolshevik... anybody who seems to be richer than him
****es him off.

DSK


Ken Marino January 4th 08 06:22 PM

communication question
 
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:47:26 -0800, dougking888 wrote:

"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote:
Wait,, you have the money for a 40' yacht and you want to know what
marine telephone to use?

%^$4^*()64#$%%^$#

That' all I can tell ya.


What a back porch Bolshevik... anybody who seems to be richer than him
****es him off.

DSK


I was being polite and not saying the same thing. thanks for saying it
for me!!!!!!


Bob January 4th 08 06:35 PM

communication question
 
On Jan 4, 5:37*am, Ken Marino wrote:
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip,


Hello Ken:

If you havent already I urge with the most politness, please do a
Group Search here using the words "Skip & Lydia". Then order the hits
by date begining with the earliest. Very intereting reading about a
couple who follow thier dream.......... but not advice.......then
stick their boat on the on the rocks.... uhhh, reef.

I am also assuming that you have spent six months sailing your new
boat out of yor home port daily in all typs of weather.... including
Small Craft Warnings.

Bob


Ken Marino January 4th 08 06:48 PM

communication question
 
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:35:17 -0800, Bob wrote:

On Jan 4, 5:37Â*am, Ken Marino wrote:
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip,


Hello Ken:

If you havent already I urge with the most politness, please do a Group
Search here using the words "Skip & Lydia". Then order the hits by date
begining with the earliest. Very intereting reading about a couple who
follow thier dream.......... but not advice.......then stick their boat
on the on the rocks.... uhhh, reef.

I am also assuming that you have spent six months sailing your new boat
out of yor home port daily in all typs of weather.... including Small
Craft Warnings.

Bob


Thanks Bob, Don't have a lot of sailing experience myself, but my wife
has sailed 33 and 62 foot boats extensively through the BAHAMAS. She has
weathered 2 hurricanes on the boat (at anchorage both times). We did
sail this boat down from Maryland when we bought it, in some pretty nasty
weather.


Larry January 4th 08 07:44 PM

communication question
 
Wayne.B wrote in
:

Coconut Telegraph. They also have a ham radio net on SSB:

0800 Coconut Telegraph 4003 KHz USB



4003 is NOT, repeat NOT in the ham radio bands! Utter your ham callsign on
4003 and you'll soon be dealing with FCC correspondence you'll regret.

Use your Ship Station License on 4003, which is dubiously legal.

Larry
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Richard Casady January 4th 08 11:27 PM

communication question
 
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:01:17 -0600, Ken Marino
wrote:

I cruised this area using my Verizon standard plan phone. It worked
withing sight of land just fine. How far offshore are you planning on
needing a telephone?


My standard Verizon phone worked enroute to Hawaii on a cruise ship.
No screwing around, it just worked normally. No extra charge, the ship
seems to have just had its very own cell. A satellite figures into
this somewhere, I am sure.

Casady

Sir Thomas of Cannondale January 5th 08 01:00 AM

communication question
 
The guy boat a 40' boat, but he can't figure out what phone to use ..

And that makes me a what?


wrote in message
...
"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote:
Wait,, you have the money for a 40' yacht and you want to know what
marine
telephone to use?

%^$4^*()64#$%%^$#

That' all I can tell ya.


What a back porch Bolshevik... anybody who seems to be richer than him
****es him off.

DSK




[email protected] January 5th 08 03:09 AM

communication question
 
On Jan 4, 8:00 pm, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote:
The guy boat a 40' boat, but he can't figure out what phone to use ..

And that makes me a what?


It makes you a person who makes unhelpful and uncalled-for comments in
a public forum.

How many things have *you* asked advice about here.... things that you
"couldn't figure out"?

IIRC you have often gotten snippy when given advice/info that didn't
suit your prejudices; and you have not only often griped about how
much boat-stuff costs but made snarky comments about others more
expensive boats & gear (hence my remark about your Bolshevik
tendencies).

I followed this thread because it's a subject I'd like to learn more
about myself.. so tell us about *your* SSB/fax/ham, sat phone, or hi-
gain cell phone rig.

DSK


Ken Marino January 5th 08 03:11 AM

communication question
 
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:00:29 +0000, Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote:

The guy boat a 40' boat, but he can't figure out what phone to use ..

And that makes me a what?


wrote in message
news:6daa0e4e-5a6f-472d-98fd-

...
"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote:
Wait,, you have the money for a 40' yacht and you want to know what
marine
telephone to use?

%^$4^*()64#$%%^$#

That' all I can tell ya.


What a back porch Bolshevik... anybody who seems to be richer than him
****es him off.

DSK


THANKS FOR ALL YOUR POSITIVE FEEDBACK sir thomas. Just for your info,
buying a used 40' sailboat does not make you a wealthy person. Also, the
wealthiest person in the world should be smart enough to ask questions
about cellular communications and internet availability in a part of the
world they have never been to. Not all areas of the world come up to the
perfect standards of communication you find in your little world.


Sir Thomas of Cannondale January 5th 08 01:22 PM

communication question
 
Ok,, you win... I was wrong.. It has been snowing for weeks, I am out of
canned spam, and canned
chiily con carnaa, ... I can't get down the back steps... my cat left me
for the cat across the street....
my neighbors are dead inside their home and no one cares because it is too
cold to go and check on them...

Thank god I have this computer so I can vent...

Good luck with the 40 footer..

My phone is one of the Virgin prepay jobs.

Doesn't work..

But... it is the only time I get to hold a Virgin..

So .. I'm keeping it!


=========================================

"Ken Marino" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:00:29 +0000, Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote:

The guy boat a 40' boat, but he can't figure out what phone to use ..

And that makes me a what?


wrote in message
news:6daa0e4e-5a6f-472d-98fd-

...
"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote:
Wait,, you have the money for a 40' yacht and you want to know what
marine
telephone to use?

%^$4^*()64#$%%^$#

That' all I can tell ya.


What a back porch Bolshevik... anybody who seems to be richer than him
****es him off.

DSK


THANKS FOR ALL YOUR POSITIVE FEEDBACK sir thomas. Just for your info,
buying a used 40' sailboat does not make you a wealthy person. Also, the
wealthiest person in the world should be smart enough to ask questions
about cellular communications and internet availability in a part of the
world they have never been to. Not all areas of the world come up to the
perfect standards of communication you find in your little world.




HPEER January 5th 08 02:39 PM

communication question
 
Ken Marino wrote:
Fairly new to the group. My wife and I purchased a 40' sailboat about 6
months ago and are ready for our first long trip, We plan to spend 2-3
months in the Florida keys and Bahamas--mostly the latter. Any suggestions
on a reasonably priced ( I know cheap is out of the question ) phone and
or data plans out there? Many thanks in advance for any and all
suggestions. Also open to starting an ongoing exchange of experiences with
any who have done or are doing similar trips.


Another option would be to get a sat phone, preferably Iridium. I
bought a used phone for $750 and can get minutes in blocks of 500 for
about $1.20 per minute. Data connections are available.

And they work everywhere. And incoming calls are charged to the caller,
discourages interruptions.

Maybe a bit over the top but it is an option.

Gordon January 6th 08 06:05 AM

communication question
 
Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote:
Ok,, you win... I was wrong.. It has been snowing for weeks, I am out of
canned spam, and canned
chiily con carnaa, ... I can't get down the back steps... my cat left me
for the cat across the street....
my neighbors are dead inside their home and no one cares because it is too
cold to go and check on them...

Thank god I have this computer so I can vent...

Good luck with the 40 footer..

My phone is one of the Virgin prepay jobs.

Doesn't work..

But... it is the only time I get to hold a Virgin..

So .. I'm keeping it!



You could always go into the suicide bomber business, a whole slew of
virgins every time you blow up!
G

Red January 6th 08 06:22 AM

communication question
 
Geoff Shultz wrote:
same
phone as you used in the States. For example, T-Mobile utilizes GSM phones
in the US. When you get to the Bahamas, purchase a SIM card from BATELCO
and purchase minutes as you go along.

Hi Geoff,
I have T-Mobile here and while they do use GSM their phones are not
unlocked - you have to use their programmed cards (at least this is what
the guy selling all the brands of phones and services at his booth told
me). I was looking at unlocked GSM phones and found them to be a bit
pricey and not a big selection available, but it seemed to make sense to
get one if you're going to be abroad for awhile. If you are only
travelling for a week or so at a time it makes more sense to keep your
U.S. phone and have the phone company get you the service over there.
Red

Larry January 6th 08 07:53 AM

communication question
 
Gordon wrote in news:13o0rt3smq0rs32
@corp.supernews.com:

You could always go into the suicide bomber business, a whole slew of
virgins every time you blow up!
G



I got depressed and called the suicide hotline over Christmas....
The call went to a call center in Pakistan.

They got all excited when I told them I was suicidal and asked how big a
truck I could drive.....


Geoff Schultz January 6th 08 12:39 PM

communication question
 
Red wrote in
:

Geoff Shultz wrote:
same
phone as you used in the States. For example, T-Mobile utilizes GSM
phones in the US. When you get to the Bahamas, purchase a SIM card
from BATELCO and purchase minutes as you go along.

Hi Geoff,
I have T-Mobile here and while they do use GSM their phones are not
unlocked - you have to use their programmed cards (at least this is
what the guy selling all the brands of phones and services at his
booth told me). I was looking at unlocked GSM phones and found them to
be a bit pricey and not a big selection available, but it seemed to
make sense to get one if you're going to be abroad for awhile. If you
are only travelling for a week or so at a time it makes more sense to
keep your U.S. phone and have the phone company get you the service
over there. Red


Simply buy an unlocked phone via eBay or there are many services which will
unlock your existing phone. I purchased a Motorola T-Mobile GSM phone for
$51 last year on eBay.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

izibiz January 7th 08 02:14 AM

communication question
 
Don't forget, a GSM network has more capabilities than pure phone
service, for instance internet and email access. There are global
providers mostl with cheaper roaming fees than you US-provider is
asking for, but whenever we stay a little longer in any country, just
go for a local SIM-card. Internet access via GPRS or UMTS is sometimes
surprisingly cheap (sometimes not), and I prefer to make my bank
transactions in the privacy of my own boat.

What Phone: GSM only is worldwide :

be sure it is a tri-, better quadband GSM as US is using other
frequencies than the rest of the world.

if money permits, be sure it is at least GPRS capable, better though
EDGE best UMTS

UMTS, in some countries called 3G, uses different technology and is
much faster, but mostly only available in larger cities, but this
depends on the provider, might sometimes be countrywide if it is a new
proider without the "old" technology. All UMTS phones are GSM capable
too. This comes closest to broadband you might be used at home.

EDGE is an enhancement for GSM, cheaper upgrade for the providers,
they do not need new Antenna towers, just a few electronic parts, so
it is more widespread, but much faster than GPRS, much much faster
than ISDN

GPRS was the first data service for GSM phones, still much better then
using dial-up service.

All these data services are usually volume paid, if time, then onl the
actual transmitting time, much better again compared to dial up. One
thing I agree, learning how to program cellphone and computer to work
together might sometimes be frustrating.

for the technical terms wikipedia and/or searchmachines are
helpful ;-)

Still I'd have an external WIFI antenna on board just in case you
catch a free signal somewhere, marinas and restaurants sometimes
provide free service, sometimes for a charge. ;-)


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