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Offshore cruiser questions
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:41:28 GMT, Rosalie B. . After eliminating
makes like Benateau, Irwin, Catalina, Morgan, etc. this list included Oh, don't eliminate the Morgans. You'll destroy Planet Skip G R. |
Offshore cruiser questions
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:53:00 -0600, "Wendy"
wrote: Right then- would like to do some single-handing now and again, I am pretty fit (rock climber), barring 60' seas I doubt I'd fall off, and I probably have a year or so to find what I want. Well, then, certain attributes suggest themselves: lines *already* led back to the cockpit--maybe even a center cockpit, which is arguably better for women due to the better visibility (I assume you aren't six feet tall or better...), current autopilot thrown in or provision for same...a windvane is a bonus, seeing as a single-handed ocean sailor would want one...Having a year is great...as you will want to check out a lot of boats. Read The Saga of Skip Gundlach in these archives, as he is on a very similar mission except he needs a bigger boat because he is the world's tallest freestanding sailor G I have loads of experience on the water, just not much fooling around with sails. I've all the documents rounded up to sit for the USCG 100-ton license, I've just not gotten around to doing it. I would suggest it then for purely insurance-related reasons, and delivery skipper is a good way to "try before you buy", when you think about it. As for sail changes, join a club race crew on a 35-40 foo boat. Work the foredeck. Oh, the sails you'll see! The transatlantic delivery idea is a good one, but not terribly practical at this point in time. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, though. Even a Newport-BVIs-USVIs would do it...just enough to get a feel for proper offshore weather and waves. I am more interested in the former, obviously :) I'm not averse to a bit of work, but I decidedly do not want a project. Boats are enough work as it is. Yes, that's true enough. But a lot of otder boats, if well-maintained, are simple enough because they simply don't have a great deal on board to go wrong. Fewer thru-hulls, fewer electronics. no elaborate fridges, bidets, or air-conditioning...it all equals less to break. I'll google up the saga. I've been doing a bit of flying and, as problematic as the broken-down boat can be, I can't imagine the situation would be as dire as an aviation-related failure. I can deal with stress :) Well, I was thinking along the lines of "hitting a container while asleep". Having the seamanship to rig a fothering sail or collision mat (and having that made up ahead of time) is the way to avoid stress. It's the stuff that happens on the sunny, light air days that can get you...not necessarily the survival storm drama. Good points, all of them- thanks for taking the time to write them. My pleasure. I hope to be where Skip is and where you are going...long-term cruising...and I follow these processes avidly. R. |
Offshore cruiser questions
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:53:00 -0600, "Wendy"
wrote: Right then- would like to do some single-handing now and again, I am pretty fit (rock climber), barring 60' seas I doubt I'd fall off, and I probably have a year or so to find what I want. Well, then, certain attributes suggest themselves: lines *already* led back to the cockpit--maybe even a center cockpit, which is arguably better for women due to the better visibility (I assume you aren't six feet tall or better...), current autopilot thrown in or provision for same...a windvane is a bonus, seeing as a single-handed ocean sailor would want one...Having a year is great...as you will want to check out a lot of boats. Read The Saga of Skip Gundlach in these archives, as he is on a very similar mission except he needs a bigger boat because he is the world's tallest freestanding sailor G I have loads of experience on the water, just not much fooling around with sails. I've all the documents rounded up to sit for the USCG 100-ton license, I've just not gotten around to doing it. I would suggest it then for purely insurance-related reasons, and delivery skipper is a good way to "try before you buy", when you think about it. As for sail changes, join a club race crew on a 35-40 foo boat. Work the foredeck. Oh, the sails you'll see! The transatlantic delivery idea is a good one, but not terribly practical at this point in time. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, though. Even a Newport-BVIs-USVIs would do it...just enough to get a feel for proper offshore weather and waves. I am more interested in the former, obviously :) I'm not averse to a bit of work, but I decidedly do not want a project. Boats are enough work as it is. Yes, that's true enough. But a lot of otder boats, if well-maintained, are simple enough because they simply don't have a great deal on board to go wrong. Fewer thru-hulls, fewer electronics. no elaborate fridges, bidets, or air-conditioning...it all equals less to break. I'll google up the saga. I've been doing a bit of flying and, as problematic as the broken-down boat can be, I can't imagine the situation would be as dire as an aviation-related failure. I can deal with stress :) Well, I was thinking along the lines of "hitting a container while asleep". Having the seamanship to rig a fothering sail or collision mat (and having that made up ahead of time) is the way to avoid stress. It's the stuff that happens on the sunny, light air days that can get you...not necessarily the survival storm drama. Good points, all of them- thanks for taking the time to write them. My pleasure. I hope to be where Skip is and where you are going...long-term cruising...and I follow these processes avidly. R. |
Offshore cruiser questions
Nahhhh. My wife single-hands our TY37. Once set up and with all the
controls to the cockpit its relatively easy, especially with a boomed (and vanged) staysail. The only difficulty with a bigger heavier boat is the size/weight of the sails and if you have to strip them off entirely for some reason .... . My personal limit is 400 sq. ft. per sail @ 9 oz/sq. ft. I cant handle anything larger than that .... balancing on pitching deck holding on to the sail with one hand plus teeth, etc. The larger the boat the easier it is to sail (but if and only if - you know how to 'precisely' sail already). But ..... I entirely agree that the smaller tippy the boat the faster the learning curve. Perhaps she should consider to buy a resaleable keelboat 'beater', gain expertise on the beater, sell it, then buy the 'cruiser'. Nothin' accelerates the learning curve faster than sailing **often** and purposely in **all** kinds of weather. :-) In article , JAXAshby wrote: Rich, a Tayana 37 or a Valiant 40 might be a tad big for a woman to singlehand. A Southern Cross 31(same same as Aries 32 or Weatherly 32 or Roughwater 33) or a Luders 33 or a Westsail 28 or a Southern Cross 28, or a Bristol 27/30(?)/32/35, or a Seawind 33 or a Cape Dory 30 or 33, or a Baba 30, etc. Consider upgrading and refitting a Robert Perry design: Tayana37, Valiant 40, etc. These older designs (although heavyweight by todays standards) have dominated passagemaking and voyaging for the past 30+ years. |
Offshore cruiser questions
Nahhhh. My wife single-hands our TY37. Once set up and with all the
controls to the cockpit its relatively easy, especially with a boomed (and vanged) staysail. The only difficulty with a bigger heavier boat is the size/weight of the sails and if you have to strip them off entirely for some reason .... . My personal limit is 400 sq. ft. per sail @ 9 oz/sq. ft. I cant handle anything larger than that .... balancing on pitching deck holding on to the sail with one hand plus teeth, etc. The larger the boat the easier it is to sail (but if and only if - you know how to 'precisely' sail already). But ..... I entirely agree that the smaller tippy the boat the faster the learning curve. Perhaps she should consider to buy a resaleable keelboat 'beater', gain expertise on the beater, sell it, then buy the 'cruiser'. Nothin' accelerates the learning curve faster than sailing **often** and purposely in **all** kinds of weather. :-) In article , JAXAshby wrote: Rich, a Tayana 37 or a Valiant 40 might be a tad big for a woman to singlehand. A Southern Cross 31(same same as Aries 32 or Weatherly 32 or Roughwater 33) or a Luders 33 or a Westsail 28 or a Southern Cross 28, or a Bristol 27/30(?)/32/35, or a Seawind 33 or a Cape Dory 30 or 33, or a Baba 30, etc. Consider upgrading and refitting a Robert Perry design: Tayana37, Valiant 40, etc. These older designs (although heavyweight by todays standards) have dominated passagemaking and voyaging for the past 30+ years. |
Offshore cruiser questions
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:12:55 -0500, DSK wrote:
Nowhere does my post above say that sailing is *more* dangerous. Only that fatal = fatal, so the consequences of a mishap could be (but not necessarily are always) equally dire. Crash in an aircraft or car (at least over most land) and it usually is noticed. Going down on a small boat, esp. if run over by a tanker or something, and nothing may ever be found. Car travel is quantitatively more dangerous than cruising, I would think, but the problem with cruising is if you survive a rapid sinking or getting run down or rammed...what then? Unpleasant possibilities and the best argument for a personal EPIRB, perhaps, particularly if single-handing. R. |
Offshore cruiser questions
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:12:55 -0500, DSK wrote:
Nowhere does my post above say that sailing is *more* dangerous. Only that fatal = fatal, so the consequences of a mishap could be (but not necessarily are always) equally dire. Crash in an aircraft or car (at least over most land) and it usually is noticed. Going down on a small boat, esp. if run over by a tanker or something, and nothing may ever be found. Car travel is quantitatively more dangerous than cruising, I would think, but the problem with cruising is if you survive a rapid sinking or getting run down or rammed...what then? Unpleasant possibilities and the best argument for a personal EPIRB, perhaps, particularly if single-handing. R. |
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