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[email protected] October 30th 07 12:28 PM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 
My sailing club is planning a Christmas 2008 cruise to the Keys but
the more I think about it the more I wonder if this sort of thing can
work well. How do you decide whether to anchor out most of the time
or to use marinas half the time. What marinas do you use when people
have radically diff budgets (yes, I am cheap)?
I'll admit, having another boat to comisserate with on long boring
passages or for company on scary ones would be nice but a whole pack
of boats can cause problems. Many anchorages are just too small for
more than a couple of boats. Marinas are not likely to have slip space
for more than a couple of transients too.
How do you deal with these issues?

Frogwatch


Joe October 30th 07 01:07 PM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 
On Oct 30, 7:28 am, wrote:
My sailing club is planning a Christmas 2008 cruise to the Keys but
the more I think about it the more I wonder if this sort of thing can
work well. How do you decide whether to anchor out most of the time
or to use marinas half the time. What marinas do you use when people
have radically diff budgets (yes, I am cheap)?
I'll admit, having another boat to comisserate with on long boring
passages or for company on scary ones would be nice but a whole pack
of boats can cause problems. Many anchorages are just too small for
more than a couple of boats. Marinas are not likely to have slip space
for more than a couple of transients too.
How do you deal with these issues?

Frogwatch


Here during the Harvest moon..(.270 boats) they invade and take over
the town. When all the slips are full people raft up some times 5-10
boats wide.

Joe



Don White October 30th 07 01:37 PM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
My sailing club is planning a Christmas 2008 cruise to the Keys but
the more I think about it the more I wonder if this sort of thing can
work well. How do you decide whether to anchor out most of the time
or to use marinas half the time. What marinas do you use when people
have radically diff budgets (yes, I am cheap)?
I'll admit, having another boat to comisserate with on long boring
passages or for company on scary ones would be nice but a whole pack
of boats can cause problems. Many anchorages are just too small for
more than a couple of boats. Marinas are not likely to have slip space
for more than a couple of transients too.
How do you deal with these issues?

Frogwatch



I attended a rendezvous for my class of trailerable mini-cruising sailboat
in early August.
It was great. A load of fun getting together with like minded people.
What you need is one or two energetic people to research all the options
well before hand and have the group vote on the best route/stops etc.




Capt. JG October 30th 07 05:13 PM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 
wrote in message
ups.com...
My sailing club is planning a Christmas 2008 cruise to the Keys but
the more I think about it the more I wonder if this sort of thing can
work well. How do you decide whether to anchor out most of the time
or to use marinas half the time. What marinas do you use when people
have radically diff budgets (yes, I am cheap)?
I'll admit, having another boat to comisserate with on long boring
passages or for company on scary ones would be nice but a whole pack
of boats can cause problems. Many anchorages are just too small for
more than a couple of boats. Marinas are not likely to have slip space
for more than a couple of transients too.
How do you deal with these issues?

Frogwatch



You could check out how they do it for the Baja HaHA... the same issue
apply.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 30th 07 08:00 PM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
My sailing club is planning a Christmas 2008 cruise to the Keys but
the more I think about it the more I wonder if this sort of thing can
work well. How do you decide whether to anchor out most of the time
or to use marinas half the time. What marinas do you use when people
have radically diff budgets (yes, I am cheap)?
I'll admit, having another boat to comisserate with on long boring
passages or for company on scary ones would be nice but a whole pack
of boats can cause problems. Many anchorages are just too small for
more than a couple of boats. Marinas are not likely to have slip space
for more than a couple of transients too.
How do you deal with these issues?

Frogwatch


If you can't enjoy sailing by yourself and must have other boats cruising in
company then you're no sailor. Give it up, man! Trying to sail in a group
puts you at the mercy of the least competent of the bunch. Do you really
want that? Do you really wish to be ruled by the lowest common denominator?
Held back by stupid inept people like Skippy and his breakdown-prone,
system-laden pig of a Morgan? That's not sailing.

Wilbur Hubbard



Don White October 30th 07 08:13 PM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

If you can't enjoy sailing by yourself and must have other boats cruising
in company then you're no sailor. Give it up, man! Trying to sail in a
group puts you at the mercy of the least competent of the bunch. Do you
really want that? Do you really wish to be ruled by the lowest common
denominator? Held back by stupid inept people like Skippy and his
breakdown-prone, system-laden pig of a Morgan? That's not sailing.

Wilbur Hubbard



Translation: No one wants to sail with Capt Neal on the chance they might
end up downwind of his mustard/mauve barge.



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 30th 07 09:29 PM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

If you can't enjoy sailing by yourself and must have other boats cruising
in company then you're no sailor. Give it up, man! Trying to sail in a
group puts you at the mercy of the least competent of the bunch. Do you
really want that? Do you really wish to be ruled by the lowest common
denominator? Held back by stupid inept people like Skippy and his
breakdown-prone, system-laden pig of a Morgan? That's not sailing.

Wilbur Hubbard



Translation: No one wants to sail with Capt Neal on the chance they
might end up downwind of his mustard/mauve barge.


Probably so, but what has that got to do with me? The main reason I do not
like to sail with other boats is they cannot keep up with my Swan 68. I
would have to tow a tractor tire or something like that to slow me down
enough so lesser boats could keep up with me.

Wilbur Hubbard



Bruce in Bangkok October 31st 07 12:18 AM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:29:48 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
. ..

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

If you can't enjoy sailing by yourself and must have other boats cruising
in company then you're no sailor. Give it up, man! Trying to sail in a
group puts you at the mercy of the least competent of the bunch. Do you
really want that? Do you really wish to be ruled by the lowest common
denominator? Held back by stupid inept people like Skippy and his
breakdown-prone, system-laden pig of a Morgan? That's not sailing.

Wilbur Hubbard



Translation: No one wants to sail with Capt Neal on the chance they
might end up downwind of his mustard/mauve barge.


Probably so, but what has that got to do with me? The main reason I do not
like to sail with other boats is they cannot keep up with my Swan 68. I
would have to tow a tractor tire or something like that to slow me down
enough so lesser boats could keep up with me.

Wilbur Hubbard


Translation: Willie boy has been reading sailing magazines and doing
his Walter Mitty fantasy again.

Once again, Willie. The Yellow Mouse Boat IS NOT a Swan.(Do try to
remember - people are beginning to notice).

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:displayed e-mail
address is a spam trap)

David&Joan October 31st 07 01:30 AM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 
In the keys it can be difficult, as finding an anchorage for dozens of boats
will be tough, but maybe not impossible. Marinas are expensive and as you
note, won't have enough trainsient space for a large club.

Several years ago I joined a friend's yacht club Maine cruise off and on
over a two week period. The organizer had set up moorings for all
participants in each harbor that they planned to spend the night in. The
cruise had about 25 boats. It was quite a challenge, but they pulled it off.
Even in Boothbay, Maine, they had enough moorings for all of the boats.

It was amusing when on one of the 15 or so nights they anchored instead of
moored at Wreck Island for a clambake. It was a hoot to watch all of these
sailors who had never anchored before. One brand new Sabre 402 tried for
about an hour to get his anchor to set with a 2:1 scope. I dinghied over and
offered to help, suggesting he let out all of his chain rode. The anchor
caught immediately.

So, it can be done, but it is a lot of work. I suspect most club cruises are
like the Maine one: most people want to stay on moorings and not on the
hook. But they don't want to stay at marinas either.

David



Glenn \(s/v Seawing\)[_33_] October 31st 07 02:36 AM

Cruising as a solitary activity
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
My sailing club is planning a Christmas 2008 cruise to the Keys but
the more I think about it the more I wonder if this sort of thing can
work well. How do you decide whether to anchor out most of the time
or to use marinas half the time. What marinas do you use when people
have radically diff budgets (yes, I am cheap)?
I'll admit, having another boat to comisserate with on long boring
passages or for company on scary ones would be nice but a whole pack
of boats can cause problems. Many anchorages are just too small for
more than a couple of boats. Marinas are not likely to have slip space
for more than a couple of transients too.
How do you deal with these issues?

Frogwatch


Hi Frogwatch.

Long boring passages...scary ones...what part of the world are you coming
from to the Keys?

Not sure of traveling with a group of boats, I've never done it. Cruising
certainly doesn't need to be a solitary activity. I meet and make friends
with cruisers (and others) everywhere we go.

There are a zillion places to anchor in the Keys. It would probably be a
challenge to be traveling together & have some wanting to anchor & others
wanting to be in a marina at the same time. Might be a good idea to go at
the same general time & arrange to meet a couple three places in the Key &
keep in touch via a vhf net or cell-phones.

The Keys can be done with a gold-plated marina tour (I've heard) or on the
cheap, anchoring 100% and dinging ashore in strategic places with free/cheap
docks etc (our way). Enjoy the Keys...great place.

Glenn.
s/v Seawing.




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