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HPEER October 28th 07 07:01 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:53:59 -0400, hpeer wrote:

A couple of days later I unintentionally left the GPS plugged into my
car overnight with the track turned on. The next morning I had a
"scatter plot" for my track covering a couple of hundred yards.


You need a better GPS. Seriously.



No, the GPS is fine. There are things that can and do affect the
accuracy of GPS SYSTEM from time to time.

It likely that, as previously suggested, my location kept me from
getting a sufficient number of satellites.

Still I wonder why it wandered off and then back onto track. I have
never seen this unit do it before or since, and I have used it several
hundred hours.




[email protected] October 28th 07 07:17 PM

GPS Errors and Anchor watch; was: October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 28, 8:45 am, Mark Borgerson wrote:
...The data was NOT
averaged over the 1-minute interval.

....
Maximum Position Error: 32.0 feet.
Average Position Error: 9.6 feet.

....

I've found that with my GP-31 (an older unit w/o WAAS) with 2 second
position averaging that in practice the GPS makes an amazingly
accurate anchor monitor. What happens to your data when you average
pairs of your 1 hz data?


1. With a modern GPS and a well-placed antenna, GPS precision
should not be a limiting factor for anchor alarms if you
are in an area with good WAAS corrections. ...


Really, you don't even need WAAS. I've lived at anchor for years on
my boat that holds all of my possessions in remote places with little
hope of outside help if I get into trouble. I take this seriously. I
don't think you can get better relative position data from anything
short of horizontal sextant angles and I wish you well getting them in
the dark.

2. Anchor alarm radius has to account for swinging
to the anchor in normal winds ...


The anchor alarm should be based on your position from the anchor not
from the position the boat takes after anchoring. I mentioned how I
do this with my GPS in my previous post.

3. Waking to the alarm with a wind or tide change is probably
preferable to setting the alarm radius so large it
will accomodate such changes.


Your alarm should not go off unless your anchor is moving.


4. GPS anchor alarms tell you nothing about the
position of other boats in the anchorage. ...


I guess I'm lucky since I don't usually have to anchor so close to my
neighbors that this is a problem. Of course, if swinging will put you
onto a coral head or some other hazard you need to restrict your
swinging. If you need to know if the wind or tide is shifting (say
you're anchored in a roadway) you should set the anchor alarm to the
boat's position rather than the anchor's and it will tell you when you
swing.

-- Tom.




Ernest Scribbler October 28th 07 10:39 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
"Bob" wrote
Combine these experiences with my total lack of civil demeanor
in this place makes for some pretty outlandish statements.


Thanks for 'splaining. You're not all bad. (Just some...)



JohnM October 29th 07 12:34 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 

"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Hi, Jeff, and Group,

I probably shouldn't continue with this, as my name is already mud, ya
know, but, just a couple of observations...

Not a bad suggestion. And if you've bothered to read for content
rather than merely to find something to shoot at, you'd have seen that
I have done just that. However, having completed my assignment for
the day, I went back to entertaining my two lady companions.

For now, I'm considering whether I want to go out in nasty stuff (not
dangerous), flying down to Solomons, or take another day in Cambridge
and go to church, instead.


Don't let 'em get to you Skip.
You're living the dream and having fun. If we all wanted a risk free life
we'd hardly step outside the house.




Skip Gundlach October 29th 07 01:49 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 28, 2:15 pm, Bob wrote:

Ah,, come on guys. I dont get to be an ass hole any place else. To be
honest I have had a gut full of collegial congeniality. To be honest
Skip reminds me too much of who Ive had to work with for the past 16
years. Well meaning, likable guys who go to church, smile and nod
their heads then completely ignore some petty good advice from some
pretty smart guys that post here (me excluded). I find it refreshing
to say it the way it is. I wish for once he would just tell me to go
get ****ed.


:{)) Heh. LOL ROFL Guffaw!

Come on, Bob. You know me better than that by now. Unless it would
give you great pleasure, in which case I don't mind, tongue in cheek,
because I've never told anyone that and meant it (in the spirit
intended, anyway - sometimes as a curative, but not as a
pejorative)...

And, you also know that I don't ignore good advice. I may not comment
on it, but if I see it I never ignore it...


I enjoyed someone's description of this place a few weeks ago. I can t
remember the analogy but something close to, is like a bar that
doesn't close and will let anybody make a fool of themselves without
getting kicked out. I thought that was a right-on description.


Heh. So, what have you got against me doing that?? :{))


Skip asked, what kind of shakels do I use attaching road to chain,
chain to anchor.

Two words:
1) Trawlex Grade 100 chain to anchor. Theyre cheep, small, and strong
ie G100 compared to G40, an not galvanized. So I just swap it out once
a year when I inspect my ground tackle. If a 400' factory trawler uses
them to drag a 100 MT bag of Pollock out of the Bering Sea I think its
good enough for my needs.


Seriously, though - what do you use for chain (I presume what you've
described is a shackle specific to a chain usage)? And, if you use
very high tensile shackles, and swap them out, is the chain similar,
or is it more standard fare? If you have a large anchor and all
chain, do you use a windlass?

In my case, the extra strength was from SS - which I also have to look
at each time I'm up there. So far, no difficulties with either the
galvanized swivel or SS shackle - but there's always a first time...


2) Nylite thimble (Samson) road to chain connection. If you don't know
about these pretty PLEASE go to this link and take a look. The USCG
use them on OR/WA/AK life boats.http://www.samsonrope.com/site_files/cm2004.pdf
and no.... it wont go through your gypsy. But then I get a bullet
proof 95-100% connection.


Ya, they're good stuff. When I have all chain, it's not relevant.
However, your use suggests (and later below, perhaps some migration of
rode) that you have mostly rope rode - is that the case? Different
strokes for different folks, and also bottoms, so I'm not criticizing
- just curious. Of course, until you get to the end of it, other than
extremely deep anchoring, mostly rope rode is pretty easy to
manhandle, or if the boat's small enough in any case. Certainly, when
I was on anything smaller than 40', I didn't use a windlass, and it
was mostly rope, with a small length of chain, usually on a Danforth
or equivalent. And, as discussed long ago in this thread, perhaps that
would have prevented my most recent excitement - that is, if you
discount the 25* heel aground at the muni wall in Cambridge this
morning (high tide resolved that with no issue whatever) - despite my
having had what would normally have been far superior stuff (all chain
on a very large anchor). Back to thimbles...

My windlass wouldn't pass such a thimble, even if I had another
shackle between it and the chain, as its pipe is too small. However,
for the one where I do have a hawse pipe (the oval thing with a
cover), and part rope and part chain, it could work just fine, as I
have to manually lead that one, anyway. If I find myself using that
much rode (where I get into the rope portion) frequently on my
secondary, I might make that change.


And no I don't use three strand nylon for road. I use nylon double
braid. Although I might go to some of the 12 plait products soon. Very
easy/fast to splice and still get 10 percent stretch at 30% load. Oh,
and tough as nails. Oh, and CHEAPER!

There are lots of ways to do stuff. Just got to stay out of West
Marine and Cruising World.


Ehh. A Port Supply card goes a long way. But I bought my last chain
(300' 5/16HTG40) and anchor (75#CQR) someplace else for significantly
less than even Port.

OTOH, all the prior suggestions, in prior threads in years past, about
various industrial supply and chain houses, were fruitless. Couldn't
do a thing with the equivalent sizes, and gave up after trying very
hard.

So to all a sincere apology. Just don't look for a change any time
soon in my phatic conversation style.
Bombastic Bob


:{)) Phatic?

L8R

Skip

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Bob October 29th 07 05:30 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 28, 4:59 pm, Dave wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:15:44 -0700, Bob said:

GOM diver mostly on
scrap jobs (salvage) 10'-320


Did you dive air or mixed gas at the 300+ depth?


Hi Dave;

Any job over 180' was gas. Although there was an OSHA or USCG reg that
said had ot have gas availible for any jump over 180' .... I think. My
memory fades.............

Although it was not unusual to do a 200' for :30 dive on deep air, of
course SUR D -O2.

Things have changed now though..................
DIT 107/80
Bob


Bob October 29th 07 05:07 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 6:39 am, Dave wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:30:22 -0700, Bob said:



Sounds about right. You sure did get a nice buzz on a 200' air dive, though.
And didn't freeze you A off.


I'm sure. I think my last dive was in 1971. Did you happen to see Men of
Honor?


Hi Dave,

Of course I saw Men of Honor! I grew up on Mike Nelson's Sea Hunt
too! I heard somplace that the Mk V gear and some of the extras were
all from DIT , Divers Institute of Technology in Seattle..... well,
actually Ballard,WA. Thats were I got my trade school tranining.

As for the air buzz, yes rather enjoyable side to it. The drag was
crawling into the chamber an cooking at 40' for 1 or 2 hours. It got
God awful hot in side.

But that was 25 years ago............... Now my only excitment is
yelling at Skip.

Bob



Bob October 29th 07 06:49 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 9:48 am, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:07:23 -0700, Bob said:



Those matters aside, I did enjoy the movie.


HI Dave

Darn............. youre the real deal!

Most of the DIT instrtuctors were all retired USN salvage guys. Great
instructors! Lots of good sea stories too. There was an instructor ex
Master Chief Schneff. Great guy and think he was doing the same as you
at the same time. Now that was a guy who new salvage
operations.......

Dont know if DIT is still using the Mk V anymore. When I was there
that was the dress we used for the first week. Ugg, 196 lbs if I
remember right. THey also had one of thoes monster Mk V style gas
suits on display. Gear shure has come a long way. I used a MIller 400
in the GOM. I couldnt emagin using that navy gas rig and getting
anything done.

Good to yak with you. Do you ever get a chance to blow any bubbles any
more. Im a common airbreather now. I cant be trusted with anything
more than a mask and snorkle.

I liked the move too......
Bubble Head Bob


Joe October 29th 07 07:56 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 12:07 pm, Bob wrote:
On Oct 29, 6:39 am, Dave wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:30:22 -0700, Bob said:
Sounds about right. You sure did get a nice buzz on a 200' air dive, though.
And didn't freeze you A off.
I'm sure. I think my last dive was in 1971. Did you happen to see Men of
Honor?


Hi Dave,




Of course I saw Men of Honor! I grew up on Mike Nelson's Sea Hunt
too! Bob



Me Too! My favorite was Eposide 6..The Gracy grope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_XY-C9M1Cw

Joe


Capt. JG October 29th 07 09:26 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 29, 12:07 pm, Bob wrote:
On Oct 29, 6:39 am, Dave wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:30:22 -0700, Bob said:
Sounds about right. You sure did get a nice buzz on a 200' air dive,
though.
And didn't freeze you A off.
I'm sure. I think my last dive was in 1971. Did you happen to see Men
of
Honor?


Hi Dave,




Of course I saw Men of Honor! I grew up on Mike Nelson's Sea Hunt
too! Bob



Me Too! My favorite was Eposide 6..The Gracy grope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_XY-C9M1Cw

Joe



That series got me started diving. I still have my double-hose reg. I used
to have two steel 52s. When I first got them, I tried the old
toss-the-tanks-over-my-head-to-put-them-on thing. Man, that didn't work
without a lot of hurt.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Bob October 29th 07 10:34 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 1:26 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

That series got me started diving. I still have my double-hose reg. I used
to have two steel 52s. When I first got them, I tried the old
toss-the-tanks-over-my-head-to-put-them-on thing. Man, that didn't work
without a lot of hurt.



Alright ! !

That regulator a US DIvers Aquamaster???
Got mine too. I think its been 15 years since i actually used it. But
just cant get the courage to give my loyal Royal Aqumaster away.

Of course you know why ya couldnt just toss thoes doubles over your
head???????
Ya just not man enough! That move was capable only by the Great Mike
Nelson ! I thought you knew nobody can equal his many underwater feats
of courage and strength.........

Bob


Capt. JG October 29th 07 11:15 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
"Bob" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Oct 29, 1:26 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

That series got me started diving. I still have my double-hose reg. I
used
to have two steel 52s. When I first got them, I tried the old
toss-the-tanks-over-my-head-to-put-them-on thing. Man, that didn't work
without a lot of hurt.



Alright ! !

That regulator a US DIvers Aquamaster???
Got mine too. I think its been 15 years since i actually used it. But
just cant get the courage to give my loyal Royal Aqumaster away.

Of course you know why ya couldnt just toss thoes doubles over your
head???????
Ya just not man enough! That move was capable only by the Great Mike
Nelson ! I thought you knew nobody can equal his many underwater feats
of courage and strength.........

Bob



Yep... I used to have an even older serial numbered one, but it was stolen
years ago. The rubber low-pressure hoses are no good any more, but they're
still attached.

The reason I couldn't was because he used 38s not 52s. :-) FYI, he did it on
land, not just underwater... underwater is easy.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Jere Lull October 30th 07 01:42 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On 2007-10-27 08:22:45 -0400, Geoff Schultz said:

Skip certainly has had more than his share of problems, and many of
them are self inflicted, but he's out there doing it and hopefully
learning from his mistakes. Many of the so-called experts in this
forum spend all of their time behind a computer and quote text books
instead of actually cruising. Maybe Skip is crazy by documenting his
adventures and misfortunes in such a public fashion, but I give him
credit for not giving up.


BINGO!

I rag on him on occasion, but generally because I forget how new he and
Lydia are to cruising. They have researched things and intellectually
"know" so much that I expect more that can be reasonably expected.

BUT, even experienced sailors in their home turf can make mistakes.

Case in point: Last weekend, we sorta hosted a raft-up of Tanzers.
Someone else called the rendezvous, but I refined the location to the
anchorage nearest to our dock. This is an anchorage we anchored in
probably 30 days this season. (for those that know the Chesapeake, this
is Fairlee Creek.)

But, because it was after the powerboats' season, I chose to try out
just behind the sand spit, normally clogged up with "them".

'Tis a WONDERFUL spot. We could see everyone coming in the channel
through 3+ foot Chesapeake chop while we luxuriated in nearly flat
conditions on the other side of the spit. The view of the full moon
coming up was inspirational.

But, I neglected to consider what happens when 20+ knot winds shift
from southerly to northerly on the Bay. Been there before, but this
time I just didn't think about the effects of such a shift.

About 1 AM we noticed we were aground and at about 10 degree heel.

By 3 AM, that was 35 degrees by our inclinometer.

By 6 AM (with high tide at 9:30), things weren't better, so it's time
to call Towboat US. They got to us a bit before high tide and pulled
both of us off with pretty much zero problem. I don't believe he
actually dialed up to full power as we were spit like watermelon seeds
the 100 or so feet to sufficient water.

Our sister rafted up to us reported 50 degree heel, but I never saw
higher than 35 (and our mast was always further over than theirs.)

Which is part of an indication of our difference in acceptance of our
shared plight. Pat and I got pretty good sleep that night. We were
heeled over so had to sleep pretty much on the side of the boat in
separate berths, (separate berths always disturbs our sleep), but there
weren't any creaks or groans from the boat, we weren't pounding or in
any evident danger, so we slept as soundly as we normally do, waiting
for high tide.

Our sister's distaff admiral wasn't as sanguine. She was literally sick
that night, probably got no real sleep, and called for a land-ride home
the next morning. Their poor captain probably is still catching a load
of baggage from my mistake.

Oh, my primary mistake? Forgetting that anchorages can have different
bottoms and holding in different areas. I "knew" that anchorage so well
that I expected the bottom next to the sand spit to be like the rest of
the anchorage: so forgiving that I don't even bother to back down on
the anchor. any more Only after a bit of thought did I realize that an
area easily swept of all water would be hard sand rather than lots of
mud. My clue should have been no vegetation bouncing the depth
soundings to impossible shallows as I came in.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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Jere Lull October 30th 07 02:11 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On 2007-10-28 04:31:13 -0400, " said:

The last edition of _The Complete Book of Anchoring and Mooring_ came
out in 2001


Minor non-sequitor: I was gifted a signed copy from his uncle, one of
the stable of authors I'd accumulated in a minor publication.

Personally, his uncle was a more entertaining writer, but I've learned
a lot from the nephew.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Bob October 30th 07 03:18 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 2:42 pm, wrote:


Lloyd Bridges taught English and Drama at my school until Hollywood called. He
had a close friend who was struggling to make it in Hollywood at the time, so
they sort of "traded places". The other fellow spent the next 30+ years
teaching the same subjects at the school. I still occasionally correspond with
both of ther widows.


Hey,
Cool....... ! What high school?? Please pass to Mrs. Bridges just how
much thoes Sea Hunt programs affected so many kids. It letteraly
change my life. I spent the majority of my life around the water
because of that program. Somthing about them that created a life long
adventure.

On the other hand, I never really got into Flipper that much, sort of
a Lassie of the 'glades. Just didnt do it for me. Ah, but Sea Hunt,
now that was some excellent TV.....

I wonder if Skip watched Sea Hunt?
Bob


Bruce in Bangkok October 30th 07 09:59 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:42:57 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2007-10-27 08:22:45 -0400, Geoff Schultz said:

Skip certainly has had more than his share of problems, and many of
them are self inflicted, but he's out there doing it and hopefully
learning from his mistakes. Many of the so-called experts in this
forum spend all of their time behind a computer and quote text books
instead of actually cruising. Maybe Skip is crazy by documenting his
adventures and misfortunes in such a public fashion, but I give him
credit for not giving up.


BINGO!

I rag on him on occasion, but generally because I forget how new he and
Lydia are to cruising. They have researched things and intellectually
"know" so much that I expect more that can be reasonably expected.

BUT, even experienced sailors in their home turf can make mistakes.

Case in point: Last weekend, we sorta hosted a raft-up of Tanzers.
Someone else called the rendezvous, but I refined the location to the
anchorage nearest to our dock. This is an anchorage we anchored in
probably 30 days this season. (for those that know the Chesapeake, this
is Fairlee Creek.)

But, because it was after the powerboats' season, I chose to try out
just behind the sand spit, normally clogged up with "them".

'Tis a WONDERFUL spot. We could see everyone coming in the channel
through 3+ foot Chesapeake chop while we luxuriated in nearly flat
conditions on the other side of the spit. The view of the full moon
coming up was inspirational.

But, I neglected to consider what happens when 20+ knot winds shift
from southerly to northerly on the Bay. Been there before, but this
time I just didn't think about the effects of such a shift.

About 1 AM we noticed we were aground and at about 10 degree heel.

By 3 AM, that was 35 degrees by our inclinometer.


Some snipped

I think the big difference between Skip and the rest of us is that
Skip doesn't appear to be shy about chronicling his screw-ups. If it
were me and I had dragged two or three times in the same area I'd keep
it a deep dark secret. Skip 'fesses up to his short comings.

I certainly don't tell people about the time I sailed into a bay
depending on a 50 year old survey only to discover that coral grows
quite a bit in 50 years, or the time I tried to pick up a mooring only
to discover that the "orange ball" wasn't a mooring, it was a buoy the
local fishermen put out to mark shallow water.

To quote an old saying, "there are people who have run aground, people
who are going to run aground and damned liars".

Skip certainly don't fall in the last group.




Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Skip Gundlach October 30th 07 02:52 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 11:18 pm, Bob wrote:

On the other hand, I never really got into Flipper that much, sort of
a Lassie of the 'glades. Just didnt do it for me. Ah, but Sea Hunt,
now that was some excellent TV.....

I wonder if Skip watched Sea Hunt?
Bob


I was born a poor black child and never had TV until I bought my own
in college. However, some of my more privileged friends had TVs so I
got to see a couple of episodes. I liked that and Sky King about
equally. Flipper was beyond my childhood, so I didn't bother with it;
I couldn't tell you a thing about that show. Back to Sea Hunt,
though:

That wasn't the motivator, however, for all my underwater stuff - it
was the flying that captivated me since the time I could see an
airplane; there's a picture of me at 4 standing with one of the free
gliders which came in the Wheaties I used to eat just for the prize.
Underwater is as close to flying as my impoverished upbringing and
adulthood would allow - weightless, above the ground (bottom). Being
a low brass player gave me pretty good underwater times; I've never
owned and only rarely used SCUBA gear but I have a hookah rig aboard,
which, if I ever get back into warm water, will get a lot of use.

And, an aside in the huge thread creep, answering another unrelated
question, no, I've never worked for a bank,let alone been president of
one. Being of no social standing, no social skills even if I were
genealogically enhanced, and little intellect, not to mention ugly,
I've been unemployed for more than 20 of the last 25 years before I
withdrew from the rat race (the rats were winning) to concentrate on
finding and then buying, and then refitting, our home.

New installment of our grounding and anchoring skills coming soon :{))

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power
to make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)


Capt. JG October 30th 07 05:07 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 29, 11:18 pm, Bob wrote:

On the other hand, I never really got into Flipper that much, sort of
a Lassie of the 'glades. Just didnt do it for me. Ah, but Sea Hunt,
now that was some excellent TV.....

I wonder if Skip watched Sea Hunt?
Bob


I was born a poor black child and never had TV until I bought my own
in college. However, some of my more privileged friends had TVs so I
got to see a couple of episodes. I liked that and Sky King about
equally. Flipper was beyond my childhood, so I didn't bother with it;
I couldn't tell you a thing about that show. Back to Sea Hunt,
though:

That wasn't the motivator, however, for all my underwater stuff - it
was the flying that captivated me since the time I could see an
airplane; there's a picture of me at 4 standing with one of the free
gliders which came in the Wheaties I used to eat just for the prize.
Underwater is as close to flying as my impoverished upbringing and
adulthood would allow - weightless, above the ground (bottom). Being
a low brass player gave me pretty good underwater times; I've never
owned and only rarely used SCUBA gear but I have a hookah rig aboard,
which, if I ever get back into warm water, will get a lot of use.

And, an aside in the huge thread creep, answering another unrelated
question, no, I've never worked for a bank,let alone been president of
one. Being of no social standing, no social skills even if I were
genealogically enhanced, and little intellect, not to mention ugly,
I've been unemployed for more than 20 of the last 25 years before I
withdrew from the rat race (the rats were winning) to concentrate on
finding and then buying, and then refitting, our home.

New installment of our grounding and anchoring skills coming soon :{))

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power
to make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)



Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.

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Bob October 30th 07 07:42 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 30, 9:07 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:


Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.


"Brought to you by Nibisco......."

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.



DIver Dan????????? that must be way before my time. Humm, I may have
to google that 2nite

Ya, its amazing how that old TV stuff is stuck in my brain. I wish I
could remember other stuff that well
BOb



Rosalie B. October 30th 07 09:56 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:42:32 -0700, Bob said:

Ya, its amazing how that old TV stuff is stuck in my brain.


Aw, you young whippersnappers with your TV.

Let's hear it for Straight Arrow, The Shadow and the Green Hornet.


And the Fat Man, Suspense, and the Lone Ranger. My mom wouldn't let
me listen to any of them except the Lone Ranger. :-(

We could listen to Ozzie and Harriet, the Aldridge Family,
Gildersleeve, Fibber McGee and Molly and Amos and Andy.

I didn't watch TV much until after I graduated college and had
children. We didn't have a TV when we were first married (1959).

I remember Sea Hunt, but probably not like you guys do, and I also
remember Sky King. I don't think I watched either of them much. I
did watch Flipper - we had two kids by then. I also watched Captain
Kangaroo.


You October 31st 07 06:28 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
In article ,
"Capt. JG" wrote:



Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.


How many remember "WhirliBirds".........

Capt. JG October 31st 07 07:36 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:07:50 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.


http://www.rogersbasement.com/DiverDan.htm




It originally aired in the mid-60s... thanks for the website.

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cavelamb himself[_4_] October 31st 07 08:09 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
You wrote:

In article ,
"Capt. JG" wrote:



Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.



How many remember "WhirliBirds".........


I was waiting for that one!

It ran during my parents bowling nights, so I watched it at the bowling
alley.

Richard

Capt. JG November 1st 07 12:07 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:36:10 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:07:50 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.

http://www.rogersbasement.com/DiverDan.htm




It originally aired in the mid-60s... thanks for the website.


Trigger Fish: Uh, what do we do now, Boss?
Baron Barracuda: Not "Boss"! "Baron", you idiot!
Trigger Fish: What do we do now, Baron-you-idiot?




Heh..


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Leanne November 1st 07 04:49 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:36:10 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


First aired in 1961. It wasn't really a complete show. It was a series of
7
minute shorts that were aired on various other kiddy shows, same as
cartoons.
There is even a youtube of an episode at the bottom of that page.

When I hear Sky King mentioned, all I can think of is his cute niece
Penny, his
plane, Songbird, and FIG NEWTONS! lol


In the late forties, there was Sgt Preston of the Mounties and his dog King.
At that time there was another program that was the Adventures of the Sea
Hound or something like that. The schooner was named the Sea Hound and they
carried lots of toys and one was an airplane called the Air Hound.

Probably giving away my age now.

Leanne



Leanne November 1st 07 04:55 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:49:55 -0400, "Leanne" wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:36:10 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


First aired in 1961. It wasn't really a complete show. It was a series
of
7
minute shorts that were aired on various other kiddy shows, same as
cartoons.
There is even a youtube of an episode at the bottom of that page.

When I hear Sky King mentioned, all I can think of is his cute niece
Penny, his
plane, Songbird, and FIG NEWTONS! lol


In the late forties, there was Sgt Preston of the Mounties and his dog
King.
At that time there was another program that was the Adventures of the Sea
Hound or something like that. The schooner was named the Sea Hound and
they
carried lots of toys and one was an airplane called the Air Hound.

Probably giving away my age now.

Leanne


It was "Sargent Preston of the YUKON". Now I'm showing my age! LOL



I stand corrected as I should have known that. Now what about the Sea
Hound??

Leanne


Capt. JG November 1st 07 04:56 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:49:55 -0400, "Leanne" wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:36:10 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


First aired in 1961. It wasn't really a complete show. It was a series
of
7
minute shorts that were aired on various other kiddy shows, same as
cartoons.
There is even a youtube of an episode at the bottom of that page.

When I hear Sky King mentioned, all I can think of is his cute niece
Penny, his
plane, Songbird, and FIG NEWTONS! lol


In the late forties, there was Sgt Preston of the Mounties and his dog
King.
At that time there was another program that was the Adventures of the Sea
Hound or something like that. The schooner was named the Sea Hound and
they
carried lots of toys and one was an airplane called the Air Hound.

Probably giving away my age now.

Leanne


It was "Sargent Preston of the YUKON". Now I'm showing my age! LOL



Hah... well, you're both older than me, but not by much!

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Jim November 4th 07 11:52 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
Rosalie B. wrote:
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:42:32 -0700, Bob said:

Ya, its amazing how that old TV stuff is stuck in my brain.

Aw, you young whippersnappers with your TV.

Let's hear it for Straight Arrow, The Shadow and the Green Hornet.


And the Fat Man, Suspense, and the Lone Ranger. My mom wouldn't let
me listen to any of them except the Lone Ranger. :-(

We could listen to Ozzie and Harriet, the Aldridge Family,
Gildersleeve, Fibber McGee and Molly and Amos and Andy.

I didn't watch TV much until after I graduated college and had
children. We didn't have a TV when we were first married (1959).

I remember Sea Hunt, but probably not like you guys do, and I also
remember Sky King. I don't think I watched either of them much. I
did watch Flipper - we had two kids by then. I also watched Captain
Kangaroo.

And Captain Video with Tobar his robot! (circa 1950)

Jim November 4th 07 11:54 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
wrote:

When I hear Sky King mentioned, all I can think of is his cute niece Penny, his
plane, Songbird, and FIG NEWTONS! lol


What I got a charge out of was that microphone connected to a
Hallicrafters receiver. Durned if I could ever figure out how it
transmitted.

Jim.


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