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rock_doctor January 12th 04 09:59 PM

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"bowgus" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...
Something I read awhile back ... dunno if it's true ... due to the way a
diesel fires as compared to a gas engine, it would hammer your OMC

(designed
for a gas) apart ... ???


It was in response to my (exact) question that wgsant asked. It turned out
that the torque of the diesel during shifting would eventually destroy the
gear sets. When you shift the computer kills one side of the engine to
reduce the torque and allow the gears to engage easily. It would be
imposable to cause the diesel to momentarily stall during shifting. So yes
you can install the diesel but it would kill the drive relatively fast. In
my case I chose to build a little cash and go with the Mercruiser Diesel
Sterndrive. They are a little expensive but should be a nice upgrade.
Besides getting parts for the OMC will be come a issue and since the new
owners of OMC (Bombardier) are known for poor quality products, it makes
sense not to stick with the OMC if it is time to replace the hardware. I
caught up with a guy in Mexico that had a set of diesel Merc's in his ferry
and he said they have not been a problem.

good luck,
mark

http://www.cmdmarine.com/recreationalsterndrives.html



Jere Lull January 14th 04 08:28 AM

Repower I/O
 
In article ,
Messing In Boats wrote:

I have a boat like that with a similar powertrain. I get 1.3 nautical
mpg at best on plane (20 knots) and 2.3 nmpg at best at hull speed (6
knots). I use this boat 150 to 200 hours a year (mostly at 6 knots) and
buy a bit of gasoline. If/when I repower, I will probably go back to gas
because the motor is so much cheaper, it will bolt right on without any
modifications, it's quieter and I can buy a lot of gas for the
difference in price. ($10,000)

One issue for me is range, which would be better with the diesel, but I
have an auxiliary tank.

Capt. Jeff


??? I would have expected quite a bit better mileage at displacement
speeds, not less than double.

Then again, what size powerboat (LWL) are you doing this with? As I
recall, the original poster was about our size (28' loa, 22' lwl). Could
you be just at hull speed at 6 knots indicated? On our diesel sailboat,
we get about 7 nm per gallon at hull speed (6.6 knots) and 22 nmpg at
85% (5.8). Quite a difference for about a knot difference in speed.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jere Lull January 14th 04 08:28 AM

Repower I/O
 
In article ,
Messing In Boats wrote:

I have a boat like that with a similar powertrain. I get 1.3 nautical
mpg at best on plane (20 knots) and 2.3 nmpg at best at hull speed (6
knots). I use this boat 150 to 200 hours a year (mostly at 6 knots) and
buy a bit of gasoline. If/when I repower, I will probably go back to gas
because the motor is so much cheaper, it will bolt right on without any
modifications, it's quieter and I can buy a lot of gas for the
difference in price. ($10,000)

One issue for me is range, which would be better with the diesel, but I
have an auxiliary tank.

Capt. Jeff


??? I would have expected quite a bit better mileage at displacement
speeds, not less than double.

Then again, what size powerboat (LWL) are you doing this with? As I
recall, the original poster was about our size (28' loa, 22' lwl). Could
you be just at hull speed at 6 knots indicated? On our diesel sailboat,
we get about 7 nm per gallon at hull speed (6.6 knots) and 22 nmpg at
85% (5.8). Quite a difference for about a knot difference in speed.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Messing In Boats January 15th 04 02:51 PM

Repower I/O
 
Six knots is probably a bit faster than the true hull speed, but I don't
want to crawl quite that slowly. This is a planing hull, so it really
doesn't have a "hull speed" like your displacement hull. Using the 1.34
X sqaure root of the LWL gives me about that though. Fooling around with
the speed and a fuel management system shows me that the slower I go,
the better mileage I get. Going down to three knots gets me up to 5 nmpg.

I've thought about repwoering with diesel if/when my 5.7 goes bad on me
in about 2000 hours, but unless the price of fuel doubles and my hours
on the water double, I'm looking at about ten years for a payback. Not
worth it.

Capt. Jeff


Messing In Boats January 15th 04 02:51 PM

Repower I/O
 
Six knots is probably a bit faster than the true hull speed, but I don't
want to crawl quite that slowly. This is a planing hull, so it really
doesn't have a "hull speed" like your displacement hull. Using the 1.34
X sqaure root of the LWL gives me about that though. Fooling around with
the speed and a fuel management system shows me that the slower I go,
the better mileage I get. Going down to three knots gets me up to 5 nmpg.

I've thought about repwoering with diesel if/when my 5.7 goes bad on me
in about 2000 hours, but unless the price of fuel doubles and my hours
on the water double, I'm looking at about ten years for a payback. Not
worth it.

Capt. Jeff



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