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Skip Grundlock asked me to forward his latest cruise log because his
computer has broken down so here it is . . . Good ole Skippy! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Good day from the captain and crew, Skippy and Myriam of Flying Swine - my Morgan OutHouse 41. We just got back from a day on the Intracoastal Waterway on our way back south. It wasn't a very good day, I'm afraid. The first thing that went wrong was when we tried to get out of the slip. The dock lines managed to get all tangled around the propeller when I threw her in reverse. One of the lines broke off the top of a piling which was rotted and it got pulled into the propeller and the shaft got bent and a leak started at the packing gland. So I had to snorkel under the boat and cut away the mess and then I took a sledge hammer to the shaft and got it straight again. Then I had to re-pack the gland but this turned out to be a real chore because the big nut got rounded off because I turned it the wrong way and the Crescent Wrench kept slipping and somehow jammed the threads. So I took a sledge hammer and a big chisel to it and got it off after about an hour. Put new cotton balls inside and pounded it all back together with the chisel and sledge and it stopped leaking excessively. Ready to get underway again we backed out of the slip and, wouldn't you know it, we back smack-dab into current that took us sideways against a seawall. We were going pretty fast and got some largish scrapes on the topsides but no matter, that's the breaks - as long as it isn't structural damage it can be fixed later - that's the cruising life - fixing broken stuff in exotic places. Well we made good progress out the channel to the IntraCoastal but the chart seemed to be wrong. We were supposed to turn left but the chart said to turn right. So I checked the radar screen and it said to go straight. Lo and behold we ran aground with the bow jammed into the bank of the Intracoastal. I guess somethings wrong with my radar. Something else on the list to fix tonight when we reach our destination. We called SeaTow on the VHF to pull us back out into the IntraCoastal but, for some reason, it didn't transmit. I guess it goes on the list of things to fix right after the radar. It's always something but that's the cruising life. So out came the cell phone and SeaTow pulled us off about an hour later. So finally we were off and running but then the diesel quit - clogged filters - no problem. Changed them out but cross threaded on by mistake and gee what a mess - diesel squirted everywhere when we fired up the engine. So I got out the trusty sledge hammer and chisel and smashed the filter on straight and we were on our way again with just a little ole dribble. No problem - don't sweat the details. Next, we discovered we were going north instead of south so we had to fix the compass. There wasn't really much wrong with it other than the sledge hammer was laid too close to it and made it point north instead of south. Oh well, that's the kind of thing you can expect to happen when cruising. Ha ha. Life is a blast isn't it? So we turned around and headed south again. We were only about five miles north of where we stayed last night so no big deal. By noon we'll be back where we started. Isn't life grand? Well, what else can go wrong. I just dropped the sledge hammer on my big toe and now it's all blue and swollen up looking like a purple plum. I think I broke it. Ouch it hurts really bad. I guess it's time to call 911 to get airlifted to an emergency room. Gotto go - more later. Stay tuned to our next cruising log . . . Skippy and Crew of the Flying Swine Morgan 41 #20 SV Flying Swine MI4KKKPC See our galleries at www.justpickyournose.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingswinelog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyingSwineLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however. Be sure to carry a large sledge hammer." (and) "There is no such thing as a gift without a problem for you in its hands. You seek gifts because you need their problems." (Richard Blech, in The Recalcitrant Messiah) |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:01:32 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: nothing Wilbur this post says more about you than you might imagine. Get a life. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:01:32 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: nothing Wilbur this post says more about you than you might imagine. Get a life. What's it say to you about me? That I excel at parody? Face it, if it was posted under the real Skippy's name, nobody would notice the difference. Really, except for the fact it's a little more absurd it's the same type of thing Skippy posts regularly. He can do it and be applauded but when somebody else does it, it shows they have no life? Doh! What's wrong with this picture? Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:49:57 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:01:32 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: nothing Wilbur this post says more about you than you might imagine. Get a life. What's it say to you about me? That I excel at parody? Face it, if it was posted under the real Skippy's name, nobody would notice the difference. Positively spooky! |
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Old mother Hubbard
Lives at a dock where he has nothing to play with except for his c--k. He lusts after Skip who is out on his ship while Wilbur's tied up in his pitiful slip |
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On Sep 30, 10:01 am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: Skip Grundlock asked me to forward his latest cruise log because his computer has broken down so here it is . . . Good ole Skippy! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Good day from the captain and crew, Skippy and Myriam of Flying Swine - my Morgan OutHouse 41. We just got back from a day on the Intracoastal Waterway on our way back south. It wasn't a very good day, I'm afraid. (parody snipped) Skippy and Crew of the Flying Swine Morgan 41 #20 SV Flying Swine MI4KKKPC See our galleries atwww.justpickyournose.org/skip/gallery! Follow us athttp://groups.google.com/group/flyingswinelogand/orhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyingSwineLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however. Be sure to carry a large sledge hammer." (and) "There is no such thing as a gift without a problem for you in its hands. You seek gifts because you need their problems." (Richard Blech, in The Recalcitrant Messiah) I know I'm going to regret this g Nice parody. Aside from the brute force tool (I use something which is directed, not swung), not too far off our early realities. Fortunately, the frequency of our visits from Murphy has diminished, and my electronics repairs have been bearing fruit with only small pointed tools being employed. The upper jaw on my spinnaker pole has yet to yield to the PBBlaster, however, and the heat and minor impacts I've laid on it. Until I get if freed, I can't take the slider off to the chandlery to attempt a match for the now-gone nylon edge sliders missing. We're off to provision and laundry, courtesy of one of the seeming hundreds of people who have been following our ineptitude, with their car made available while they work the show setup. L8R, y'all... |
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What's it say to you about me? That I excel at parody?
No that you're a pathetic troll. |
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"Skip Gundlach" wrote
Nice parody. Aside from the brute force tool (I use something which is directed, not swung), not too far off our early realities. Classy. Some folks might have posted a smart reply. Yours was pleasant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzOIhLJ1C-Y |
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"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in
et: Classy. Some folks might have posted a smart reply. Yours was pleasant. You have to meet Skip to understand just how classy he, and Lydia, are. I've stood for hours watching him fight various problems in his engine room, at the dock in Charleston, with no air conditioning at 115F, sweat pouring off the both of us to the point we couldn't see....and seemingly nothing at all ever frustrates him. He's so calm, no matter what, it's really scary! At some point, I lose touch with reality and just explode....Not Skip. He calmly, almost to a fault, goes on working on the problem until a solution arrives. Larry -- After all they've been through, I mean this as a real compliment to them both. They are both really classy, calm characters...(c; |
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"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message et... "Skip Gundlach" wrote Nice parody. Aside from the brute force tool (I use something which is directed, not swung), not too far off our early realities. Classy. Some folks might have posted a smart reply. Yours was pleasant. Yes, it was! Darn it all! Maybe there's more to Skippy than meets the eye . . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "Ernest Scribbler" wrote in et: Classy. Some folks might have posted a smart reply. Yours was pleasant. You have to meet Skip to understand just how classy he, and Lydia, are. I've stood for hours watching him fight various problems in his engine room, at the dock in Charleston, with no air conditioning at 115F, sweat pouring off the both of us to the point we couldn't see....and seemingly nothing at all ever frustrates him. He's so calm, no matter what, it's really scary! At some point, I lose touch with reality and just explode....Not Skip. He calmly, almost to a fault, goes on working on the problem until a solution arrives. But, the more important question might be, "What does Skippy do to AVOID problems?" In other words, does his whole cruising life consist of problems that take all his time and energy when he could be using that energy in an active program to avoid problems, to do what it takes to see the problems he labors over never occur again? Until he does so, he is no sailor. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:31:03 -0000, Skip Gundlach
wrote: The upper jaw on my spinnaker pole has yet to yield to the PBBlaster, however, and the heat and minor impacts I've laid on it. Until I get if freed, I can't take the slider off to the chandlery to attempt a match for the now-gone nylon edge sliders missing. Block and tackle led to a winch? Using strong attachment points of course. |
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On 2007-10-01 13:13:15 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said: "Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message et... "Skip Gundlach" wrote Nice parody. Aside from the brute force tool (I use something which is directed, not swung), not too far off our early realities. Classy. Some folks might have posted a smart reply. Yours was pleasant. Yes, it was! Darn it all! Maybe there's more to Skippy than meets the eye . . . Wilbur Hubbard You got that right. And the parody *was* pretty funny. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On 2007-10-01 13:13:15 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said: "Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message et... "Skip Gundlach" wrote Nice parody. Aside from the brute force tool (I use something which is directed, not swung), not too far off our early realities. Classy. Some folks might have posted a smart reply. Yours was pleasant. Yes, it was! Darn it all! Maybe there's more to Skippy than meets the eye . . . Wilbur Hubbard I was going to respond to a different post, but I like this one better so am reusing it. Saturday, I ignored the small craft advisories (which mean something to our light-air cork) and blasted down to Annapolis to try to find Flying Pig. Succeeded, and the trip was worth the beating. Skip, Lydia and their "Mum" are charming, and Flying Pig has been wonderfully rebuilt with just about every system a technophile could desire. What struck me almost immediately, though, was a reminder of how *new* they are to cruising -- and sailing. After I sailed around FP and Lydia tied Xan alongside as if she'd done it a thousand times, she remarked it was the first time they'd ever rafted up, one of so many "first times" on this trip. All things considered, my wife Pat probably has more onboard experience than they, even though I allow Pat a life of leisure onboard and single-hand most of the time. Considering that, it's astounding that they haven't given up in dismay. Far less severe challenges early-on nearly scared Pat off of Xan and boating. In my view, their primary errors were (and this won't be news to them): 1) Rushing. Trying to run before "walk" has been mastered. 2) Having and relying on too many complex onboard systems, particularly as most were unproven and have since been discovered to be NFG. (clean version: not found good). Skip and Lydia are compressing the learning curve of sailing and cruising beyond I would consider sanity. That they can be as intensely sane as I found them to be is a wonder. That Skip can be so comfortable about documenting all of their beginners errors (so other beginners can learn from their mistakes) and be so undefensive about the rude remarks engendered is another wonder. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:11:15 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
That Skip can be so comfortable about documenting all of their beginners errors (so other beginners can learn from their mistakes) and be so undefensive about the rude remarks engendered is another wonder. Agreed. The good news is that there my be a good book opportunity someday if collected and edited. |
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:11:15 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
In my view, their primary errors were (and this won't be news to them): 1) Rushing. Trying to run before "walk" has been mastered. 2) Having and relying on too many complex onboard systems, particularly as most were unproven and have since been discovered to be NFG. (clean version: not found good). This may be more common than we may think. I just spent 3 days in Baltimore inner harbor docked next to a couple on a very nice 55 ft ketch. They are from the Great Lakes and have never sailed over night or made an offshore passage of any type. That said, they are planning to go offshore from the southern Chesapeake in late October and sail non-stop to the AVI/BVI without benefit of a stop in Bermuda. From there they are planning to sail around the world. I just didn't have the heart to tell them what I thought of the whole idea. Hopefully we won't be reading about them but you have to wonder. |
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On Oct 2, 8:44 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:11:15 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: In my view, their primary errors were (and this won't be news to them): 1) Rushing. Trying to run before "walk" has been mastered. 2) Having and relying on too many complex onboard systems, particularly as most were unproven and have since been discovered to be NFG. (clean version: not found good). This may be more common than we may think. Hopefully we won't be reading about them but you have to wonder. God bless those sent to rescue them. No, very common I think. At an early age walking on a streach of empty beach in 1966 my friend Larry and I saw the remains of a sanded in steel sail boat just up from the nights high tide. It was a story Ive grown wear of hearing: Kids gone Couple retires both 63 PLUS years. Of course comes blood preasure meds, etc. They sells everything. Life dream to sail the world on blissful seas without a care. Wife says okay.............. sorta. Buys boat. Has to leave on XYZ but is a month late because 123. They leave. Get sick, get dehydrated, lay on the floor, get knocked around, break a rib. They die or get rescued and for the next few years he sits on the boat having a drinking and dreaming of what could have been. He gets sick. The boat sits He dies. The boat sits more. It rots The wife hates the boat and gets ****ed cause no body will give her the money she thinks it should be wort. After all, "HE spent TOO damn much money on it all thoes years, It ought to be worth more than that!" The end of a man The end of a dream The end of a good boat. Bob |
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:44:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:11:15 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: In my view, their primary errors were (and this won't be news to them): 1) Rushing. Trying to run before "walk" has been mastered. 2) Having and relying on too many complex onboard systems, particularly as most were unproven and have since been discovered to be NFG. (clean version: not found good). This may be more common than we may think. I just spent 3 days in Baltimore inner harbor docked next to a couple on a very nice 55 ft ketch. They are from the Great Lakes and have never sailed over night or made an offshore passage of any type. That said, they are planning to go offshore from the southern Chesapeake in late October and sail non-stop to the AVI/BVI without benefit of a stop in Bermuda. From there they are planning to sail around the world. I just didn't have the heart to tell them what I thought of the whole idea. Hopefully we won't be reading about them but you have to wonder. That's a big first hop, and I don't know their capabilities. My favorite cruiser journal so far is bumfuzzle.com. A young couple, with virtually no sailing experience did a circumnavigation in a 35' Wildcat (SA cat). Sold everything in Chicago, bought the boat in Ft. Lauderdale, and left from Miami to the Bahamas a couple months later, after I assume boning up on boat parts and navigation. They spent a few months in the Bahamas before heading for Panama. I think their first overnighter wasn't until after they'd sailed in and out of various Bahamas harbors for a few months. They learned early how important it is to watch the weather and be patient about departures, and aside from a couple mishaps had what seemed to be a pretty smooth trip around the world. Anyway, a good read. They caught a lot of flak from the "cruising community" for their boldness, but had a hell of a good time. The journal never makes a big deal of their mariner expertise, but the results show they were smart, and on their toes. I think their initial approach was a good one, taking some baby steps first, unlike the couple you mentioned. --Vic |
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On Oct 3, 4:59 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:44:13 -0400, Wayne.B They caught a lot of flak from the "cruising community" for their boldness, but had a hell of a good time. The journal never makes a big deal of their mariner expertise, but the results show they were smart, and on their toes. I think that is the key point, "smart and on their toes." I think their initial approach was a good one, taking some baby steps first, unlike the couple you mentioned. --Vic- Yup, "progressive approximations of a target behavior...." Its called LEARNING! Some folks belive that sailing is all about sitting in the cockpi,t drinking wine, and laughing with attractive friend. Heck, thats what the glossy pics in the west marine catalogues show. Met a couple in a few years back in Winchester Bay, OR. A couple "financial advisors" bought a brand new 40' ice cream scoop stearned somthing or another. He added gizmos and stainless stuff everywhere. She drank wine and talked. She colleced the corks of each bottle and stuck around the salon on display. First voyage heading to Mexico: Crossed the bar, small craft warnings went up, altnator light went on, they turnd around and went back to the slip. Total time of dream cruise to Mexico.................. about 6 hours. A voyage to nowhere. Four years later the boat still sits. A liveabord said they show up a few times a year to check on it. I think this is more common than thought. just some conseal it better than others. Bob |
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On 2007-10-02 23:44:13 -0400, Wayne.B said:
I just spent 3 days in Baltimore inner harbor docked next to a couple on a very nice 55 ft ketch. They are from the Great Lakes and have never sailed over night or made an offshore passage of any type. That said, they are planning to go offshore from the southern Chesapeake in late October and sail non-stop to the AVI/BVI without benefit of a stop in Bermuda. From there they are planning to sail around the world. I just didn't have the heart to tell them what I thought of the whole idea. Hopefully we won't be reading about them but you have to wonder. You know, I was about to say that I wouldn't hesitate to advise them against it, but then reread and thought: We could be described similarly though I'm considered fairly competent by those whose opinions matter to me, the ones who have done it. With the right boat, I might do the same thing, *particularly* going with the annual race between Norfolk and the BVI whose name escapes me. The idea of doing that long first step then idling downwind back to the Bahamas appeals to me. In addition, we'd be following the warmth north. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
You know, I was about to say that I wouldn't hesitate to advise them against it, but then reread and thought: We could be described similarly though I'm considered fairly competent by those whose opinions matter to me, the ones who have done it. It really comes down to more than competence in my opinion. There are intangibles that come only from experience, and those lessons are best learned in small doses where the situation is less likely to spiral out of control when (not if) things start to go wrong. Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear is severely tested. I tried to convince the owner to plan a stop in Bermuda but was unsuccessful. That would have given them the equivalent of a 3 day shake down cruise and a chance to regroup if things were going wrong. |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:11:15 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: In my view, their primary errors were (and this won't be news to them): 1) Rushing. Trying to run before "walk" has been mastered. 2) Having and relying on too many complex onboard systems, particularly as most were unproven and have since been discovered to be NFG. (clean version: not found good). This may be more common than we may think. I just spent 3 days in Baltimore inner harbor docked next to a couple on a very nice 55 ft ketch. They are from the Great Lakes and have never sailed over night or made an offshore passage of any type. That said, they are planning to go offshore from the southern Chesapeake in late October and sail non-stop to the AVI/BVI without benefit of a stop in Bermuda. From there they are planning to sail around the world. I just didn't have the heart to tell them what I thought of the whole idea. Hopefully we won't be reading about them but you have to wonder. I've done the passage from Newport, RI and from Norfolk, VA to the BVIs non-stop twice without stopping in Bermuda. You have to leave that late to avoid hurricanes. Now as far as never having done an overnight or off-shore, that's another matter. Having said that, on my first passage from Newport, I had never done anything of that magnitude. It didn't blow less than 32 kts for the first 7 days and I was bruised, sore and tired, but we made it without any real issues. Time will only tell if they really want to sail around the world. This will be a good test. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
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On Oct 3, 6:42 am, "Roger Long" wrote:
The boat was still up behind the shed when I went by a few years later. I don't know what eventually happend to it. -- Roger Long Here they crush them and put em in dumpsters. I currently have a 40' widows mast under my bldg. He died, she wan't so much for the boat it sat so long she stopped paying rent. Looks like the guy who did wood work for her will make a flag pole out of it since she never paid for all the work. Kinda sad, but happens all the time...the good side is if you are willing to work on a boat it's a good source of bargain boats. Joe |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 08:04:14 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote: It didn't blow less than 32 kts for the first 7 days and I was bruised, sore and tired I can easily imagine. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: You know, I was about to say that I wouldn't hesitate to advise them against it, but then reread and thought: We could be described similarly though I'm considered fairly competent by those whose opinions matter to me, the ones who have done it. It really comes down to more than competence in my opinion. There are intangibles that come only from experience, and those lessons are best learned in small doses where the situation is less likely to spiral out of control when (not if) things start to go wrong. Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear is severely tested. I tried to convince the owner to plan a stop in Bermuda but was unsuccessful. That would have given them the equivalent of a 3 day shake down cruise and a chance to regroup if things were going wrong. Are you saying it only takes 3 days to get to Bermuda? I thought it was more like a week (depending on the wind). It takes a cruise ship at 18 knots about 48 hours. In any case, if they are going with the Caribbean 1500, they have to have certain equipment, and they will have communication with others. This is from the website: Following the start, planned for Sunday, Nov 4th, participants will share positions twice daily during scheduled chat hours. Problems and solutions are discussed, as are privately arranged weather forecasts.The fleet will gather at the Bluewater Yachting Center in Hampton, VA, for several days of briefings and final preparations leading up to the start. All participants are invited and newer passage makers are encouraged to arrive two days early (November 1) for additional briefings and inspections. Required Briefings for Skippers: * Inspection Briefing, Medical Topics, Communications Briefing (procedures, schedules, frequencies), Sailing Instructions, Navigation and Landfall review * Weather Briefing and Gulf Stream Analysis Additional Briefings for Skippers and Crew: * Women's Roundtables, Offshore Fishing Techniques, Life Raft Demonstration and Distress Signal Workshop, Sail Repair Workshop, Diesel Engine Troubleshooting Workshop * Evening Social Gatherings The Caribbean 1500 is both a rally and a cruise in company from the US to the British Virgin Islands. Some 900 boats have chosen to join the Caribbean 1500 in making their passage to the islands, and they find it a very special experience, as our many repeat participants attest. Once the fleet arrives at Tortola, nightly awards parties will bring participants together to swap experiences and exchange cruising plans. The passage typically takes 6-10 days |
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On Oct 4, 9:04 am, Joe wrote:
On Oct 3, 6:42 am, "Roger Long" wrote: The boat was still up behind the shed when I went by a few years later. I don't know what eventually happend to it. -- Roger Long Here they crush them and put em in dumpsters. I currently have a 40' widows mast under my bldg. He died, she wan't so much for the boat it sat so long she stopped paying rent. Looks like the guy who did wood work for her will make a flag pole out of it since she never paid for all the work. Kinda sad, but happens all the time...the good side is if you are willing to work on a boat it's a good source of bargain boats. Joe P.S. kinda funny, they are doing the final strip on a boat they will soon crush..It's been sitting idle 10 yrs I know of. The name is " We Dream" Joe |
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On Oct 4, 8:48 am, Joe wrote:
P.S. kinda funny, they are doing the final strip on a boat they will soon crush..It's been sitting idle 10 yrs I know of. The name is " We Dream" Uggg............ the more I hear someone use the word "Dream" in a sentence about sailing the less I listen. Seems to be the kiss of death (for the boat). The other is "Destiny." I cant emagine why a person would name their boat with the word Pig in it regardless if it could fly. Good boats deserve good boat names...... honerable names that show respect for the design. And not names like Wet Spot or Breakin Wind etc. Bob |
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On Oct 4, 11:51 am, Bob wrote:
On Oct 4, 8:48 am, Joe wrote: P.S. kinda funny, they are doing the final strip on a boat they will soon crush..It's been sitting idle 10 yrs I know of. The name is " We Dream" Uggg............ the more I hear someone use the word "Dream" in a sentence about sailing the less I listen. Seems to be the kiss of death (for the boat). The other is "Destiny." I cant emagine why a person would name their boat with the word Pig in it regardless if it could fly. Good boats deserve good boat names...... honerable names that show respect for the design. And not names like Wet Spot or Breakin Wind etc. Bob Yelp Destiny was a very bad luck boat for me and my wife. She was a 140ft aluminum crewboat running out of lousianna. We just reported aboard and as second captain the sr Captain decided to take the boat out, offload then I would bring her in. Socked in fog on the Atchafalaya outbound and the Captain made a one whistle passing agreement the the crewboat Dare a 125 footer. Neither retard slowed down to pass and the last thing my wife saw before being knocked out was a green running light. Smashed in our bow 20+ ft and about 35 ft on the smaller boat. We were doing 22 kts and the Dare was doing 25kts. My wife hit the radar Broke ribs, ruptured spleen and lacerated her kidney. I was below in the bunk and went up the bulkhead. This is a picture of the Destiny's wheelhouse and my lovely wife. She was standing at the chart table flew across the wheelhouse and hit the radar in the picture. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/241...63212926kwotKu Joe |
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On Oct 4, 10:36 am, Joe wrote:
This is a picture of the Destiny's wheelhouse and my lovely wife. She was standing at the chart table flew across the wheelhouse and hit the radar in the picture. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/241...63212926kwotKu Joe Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch! Ugg, crewboat rides! Can still remember that pack of 12V71 screamin below and the pounding rides. But having her along would make up for it. :) I worked out of Morgan City and lived in Patterson in the way early 80s. Were you sitting on the next bar stool in Gro Johns? or how ever it was spelled. Bob |
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On Oct 4, 2:12 pm, Bob wrote:
On Oct 4, 10:36 am, Joe wrote: This is a picture of the Destiny's wheelhouse and my lovely wife. She was standing at the chart table flew across the wheelhouse and hit the radar in the picture. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/241...63212926kwotKu Joe Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch! Yo asshole..she's from Ohio, and seldom a bitch. Ugg, crewboat rides! Can still remember that pack of 12V71 screamin below and the pounding rides. But having her along would make up for it. :) She pulls her weight, got her 100 tonn back in the late 80's. She can push barges, walk crewboats and sail ships. Not your average sailor. I worked out of Morgan City and lived in Patterson in the way early 80s. Were you sitting on the next bar stool in Gro Johns? or how ever it was spelled. I worked for State Boat in the early 80's based in Patterson. Point Marine, Co-Mar, Bruce Boats, all out of Morgan City. I tried to stay out of both towns, as they were full of idiots that would say something like "Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch!" while picking their nose and wiping it on their Carhart bibs....;0) Joe Bob |
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On Oct 4, 1:23 pm, Joe wrote:
I worked out of Morgan City and lived in Patterson in the way early 80s. Were you sitting on the next bar stool in Gro Johns? or how ever it was spelled. I worked for State Boat in the early 80's based in Patterson. Point Marine, Co-Mar, Bruce Boats, all out of Morgan City. I tried to stay out of both towns, as they were full of idiots that would say something like "Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch!" while picking their nose and wiping it on their Carhart bibs....;0) Joe Damn joe, nearly every crewboat operator down there I met was an ignorant assole with a chip on his sholder, so i figured my word choice was just about right. I appologize................ Wouldnt want to have to squat and get in a ****ing match wit ya. bob |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:34:09 -0400, Rosalie B.
wrote: Are you saying it only takes 3 days to get to Bermuda? 55 foot boat, decent reaching conditions, no problem making it in less than 4 days. I have made it from Newport, RI in less than 3 days but that was on a fully crewed racing boat. |
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On Oct 4, 7:13 pm, Bob wrote:
On Oct 4, 1:23 pm, Joe wrote: I worked out of Morgan City and lived in Patterson in the way early 80s. Were you sitting on the next bar stool in Gro Johns? or how ever it was spelled. I worked for State Boat in the early 80's based in Patterson. Point Marine, Co-Mar, Bruce Boats, all out of Morgan City. I tried to stay out of both towns, as they were full of idiots that would say something like "Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch!" while picking their nose and wiping it on their Carhart bibs....;0) Joe Damn joe, nearly every crewboat operator down there I met was an ignorant assole with a chip on his sholder, I thought your name was Bob...not Chip. I take it you're another ****ed off rig hand that the Captain ordered out of the wheelhouse huh? so i figured my word choice was just about right. I appologize............... No problem Bob, most crewboat passengers were dumbass, light weight, pansies with big mouths, that never get any..... so I kind'a expected it. .. Wouldnt want to have to squat and get in a ****ing match wit ya. You squat to **** Bob? Joe bob |
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On Oct 4, 6:32 pm, Joe wrote:
On Oct 4, 7:13 pm, Bob wrote: No problem Bob, most crewboat passengers were dumbass, light weight, pansies with big mouths, that never get any..... so I kind'a expected it. Wouldnt want to have to squat and get in a ****ing match wit ya. You squat to **** Bob? Joe Hey Joe.... If youre truely interested in how a man takes a **** I suggest ya talk to that repubilican Senator caught in that airport restroom. But since ya ask me: When sailing around home I usually just **** on the deck of the cockpit. No since leaving my watch plus there is usually enough green water to wash it out when the next swell passes. RE the GOM. Nope wasnt a rig crew. When I worked in the oil patch I usually just ****ed in my pants when I had to go. Really didnt make much diffrence. Since you seem so interested in how men **** i suggest ya ask some of the men here. Im sure they can help ya out. Bob |
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On 2007-10-03 23:14:05 -0400, Wayne.B said:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: You know, I was about to say that I wouldn't hesitate to advise them against it, but then reread and thought: We could be described similarly though I'm considered fairly competent by those whose opinions matter to me, the ones who have done it. It really comes down to more than competence in my opinion. There are intangibles that come only from experience, and those lessons are best learned in small doses where the situation is less likely to spiral out of control when (not if) things start to go wrong. That was part of what I was saying. They *could* have sufficient experience in dealing with these things from many days out. Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear is severely tested. Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly. I tried to convince the owner to plan a stop in Bermuda but was unsuccessful. That would have given them the equivalent of a 3 day shake down cruise and a chance to regroup if things were going wrong. I dunno. The Caribbean 1500 sounds like a safer bet, as Bermuda's a bit off of the rhumb line. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:02:40 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear is severely tested. Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly. The important difference is that on the Chesapeake you know that you'll be sleeping soundly in a warm dry bunk at the end of the day. It's the prolonged fatigue and sleep deprivation that does people in offshore. |
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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007100501023975249-jerelull@maccom... On 2007-10-03 23:14:05 -0400, Wayne.B said: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: snipped: Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear is severely tested. Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly. I was a crew member on a 40'er that departed Yokosuka, Japan bound for Seattle a little over 20 years ago. For the first 5 days out, it was a wonderful ride until we hit a low and the **it hit the fan. After 3 days of rain and double reefed main and stay sail, the owner captain had his breakdown. This wasn't the cruise he had envisioned. We turned around and headed back to Yokosuka. He ended up, being a retired officer, getting it shipped back to San Diego on an LSD that was headed for home. I was ready and wanted to go and to this day have felt that I was cheated out of my Pacific crossing. Leanne |
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On Oct 5, 7:43 am, "Leanne" wrote:
"Jere Lull" wrote in message news:2007100501023975249-jerelull@maccom... On 2007-10-03 23:14:05 -0400, Wayne.B said: On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: snipped: Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear is severely tested. Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly. I was a crew member on a 40'er that departed Yokosuka, Japan bound for Seattle a little over 20 years ago. For the first 5 days out, it was a wonderful ride until we hit a low and the **it hit the fan. After 3 days of rain and double reefed main and stay sail, the owner captain had his breakdown. This wasn't the cruise he had envisioned. We turned around and headed back to Yokosuka. He ended up, being a retired officer, getting it shipped back to San Diego on an LSD that was headed for home. I was ready and wanted to go and to this day have felt that I was cheated out of my Pacific crossing. Leanne Did he ride on the LSD back with the boat or fly? Sheeze.. with the flat bottoms the LSD's have you know it's a worse ride than any sailboat. Good thing is the LSD's skipper would not turn around. Joe |
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On 2007-10-05 06:11:03 -0400, Wayne.B said:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:02:40 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear is severely tested. Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly. The important difference is that on the Chesapeake you know that you'll be sleeping soundly in a warm dry bunk at the end of the day. It's the prolonged fatigue and sleep deprivation that does people in offshore. That is the "length of time" aspect and a portion of the psychological aspect I was referring to. I would *not* want to be stuck in a multi-day storm, but we're talking about the Caribbean 1500, which is a pretty short trip: 6-10 days, and they DO postpone when weather's a known factor. At most, a normal storm of a few hours' duration can be expected along with the usual fall squalls. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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