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Shipping routes research
Hi, I'm performing some research on shipping routes, and was wondering
if anyone could help? I was wondering what kind of routes, with examples of lat,long coordinates a ship would follow it is was following a "normal" route from Mobile, Al. to Liverpool? With best wishes Paul |
Shipping routes research
On 18 Sep, 15:21, Paul Cassel
wrote: wrote: Hi, I'm performing some research on shipping routes, and was wondering if anyone could help? I was wondering what kind of routes, with examples of lat,long coordinates a ship would follow it is was following a "normal" route from Mobile, Al. to Liverpool? Search engines your friend. A quick search revealed this: http://sntg.com/solutions/routes/map/routes_v3.swf A good start. Thanks! It does present a bit of a mystery- how can such a ship, eastbound, wind up in the vicinity of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland? |
Shipping routes research
" wrote in
ups.com: On 18 Sep, 15:21, Paul Cassel wrote: wrote: Hi, I'm performing some research on shipping routes, and was wondering if anyone could help? I was wondering what kind of routes, with examples of lat,long coordinates a ship would follow it is was following a "normal" route from Mobile, Al. to Liverpool? Search engines your friend. A quick search revealed this: http://sntg.com/solutions/routes/map/routes_v3.swf A good start. Thanks! It does present a bit of a mystery- how can such a ship, eastbound, wind up in the vicinity of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland? Once answer.....weather routing |
Shipping routes research
"otnmbrd" wrote in message .70... " wrote in ups.com: On 18 Sep, 15:21, Paul Cassel wrote: wrote: Hi, I'm performing some research on shipping routes, and was wondering if anyone could help? I was wondering what kind of routes, with examples of lat,long coordinates a ship would follow it is was following a "normal" route from Mobile, Al. to Liverpool? Search engines your friend. A quick search revealed this: http://sntg.com/solutions/routes/map/routes_v3.swf A good start. Thanks! It does present a bit of a mystery- how can such a ship, eastbound, wind up in the vicinity of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland? Once answer.....weather routing or..how about 'great circle' routing? If you have a globe at home...streach a string between the two points and you might be surprised where the path covers. |
Shipping routes research
On 18 Sep, 16:18, otnmbrd wrote:
" wrote roups.com: On 18 Sep, 15:21, Paul Cassel wrote: wrote: Hi, I'm performing some research on shipping routes, and was wondering if anyone could help? I was wondering what kind of routes, with examples of lat,long coordinates a ship would follow it is was following a "normal" route from Mobile, Al. to Liverpool? Search engines your friend. A quick search revealed this: http://sntg.com/solutions/routes/map/routes_v3.swf A good start. Thanks! It does present a bit of a mystery- how can such a ship, eastbound, wind up in the vicinity of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland? Once answer.....weather routing I think they would be aiming to head south owing to heavy ice warnings at the time off Newfoundland. |
Shipping routes research
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:54:19 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message . 3.70... " wrote in ups.com: On 18 Sep, 15:21, Paul Cassel wrote: wrote: Hi, I'm performing some research on shipping routes, and was wondering if anyone could help? I was wondering what kind of routes, with examples of lat,long coordinates a ship would follow it is was following a "normal" route from Mobile, Al. to Liverpool? Search engines your friend. A quick search revealed this: http://sntg.com/solutions/routes/map/routes_v3.swf A good start. Thanks! It does present a bit of a mystery- how can such a ship, eastbound, wind up in the vicinity of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland? Once answer.....weather routing or..how about 'great circle' routing? If you have a globe at home...streach a string between the two points and you might be surprised where the path covers. It surprises some to find if travel east from Chicago on the latitude line the first foreign city you hit is Buffalo, NY. The second is Rome, IT. But some people are surprised that you go east. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... It surprises some to find if travel east from Chicago on the latitude line the first foreign city you hit is Buffalo, NY. The second is Rome, IT. But some people are surprised that you go east. --Vic Careful...O.J. may not like you refering to Buffalo NY as a 'foreign city'. |
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Shipping routes research
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse
wrote: There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds. Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite different routes due to this reason. Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it. |
Shipping routes research
Wayne.B wrote in
: On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse wrote: There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds. Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite different routes due to this reason. Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it. ......And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend to follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on the "basic" route. In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else |
Shipping routes research
"otnmbrd" wrote in message .70... Wayne.B wrote in : On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse wrote: There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds. Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite different routes due to this reason. Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it. .....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend to follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on the "basic" route. In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix it if it ain't broke? |
Shipping routes research
On 20 Sep, 04:15, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message .70... Wayne.B wrote in : On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse wrote: There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds. Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite different routes due to this reason. Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it. .....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend to follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on the "basic" route. In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix it if it ain't broke? I was actually think of the routes that ships took well before GPS! |
Shipping routes research
" wrote in message oups.com... On 20 Sep, 04:15, "KLC Lewis" wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message .70... Wayne.B wrote in : On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse wrote: There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds. Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite different routes due to this reason. Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it. .....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend to follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on the "basic" route. In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix it if it ain't broke? I was actually think of the routes that ships took well before GPS! Those "traditional" routes are still pretty much the same as are being used now, for the most part. With the exception, of course, that ships can now "sail" directly into the wind. |
Shipping routes research
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:28:41 -0000, "
wrote: On 20 Sep, 04:15, "KLC Lewis" wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message .70... Wayne.B wrote in : On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse wrote: There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds. Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite different routes due to this reason. Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it. .....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend to follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on the "basic" route. In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix it if it ain't broke? I was actually think of the routes that ships took well before GPS! Somewhere, of course not to hand, I have a world chart that shows both sailing and steam routs for voyages between most ports for various seasons. I have no idea who printed it but it appears to be a US chart. The sailing routes, of course, generally follow the monsoon and trade wind paths while the steam routes are generally more direct but following the same basic pattern. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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