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John Welsh December 23rd 03 07:46 AM

V Drive Vibration
 
I own a 2003, 360 Carver Sedan. I bought it with 14 hours on the Hobbs and
since found out that during the 14 hours the boat was ran aground by an
inept operator. (I found this out not by the dealer, of course, but by a
fellow boater who watched the whole grizzly episode.
I have noticed that when I power up to 2200 rpm the boat vibrates
momentarily then smoothes out. I have had the dealer check the problem out
and was told that it was just the underwater mufflers causing the vibration.
Thinking that was a load of BS I made enquires to several marinas about the
problem. They told me it could be a slight bend in the shaft which would
seriously effect the knuckle joint in the V drive. This could be thousands
($13000) to fix should it give out completely!!
Can anyone advise me of any experiences or knowledge of this type occurrence
with the V drive.

Thanks





John Welsh December 23rd 03 07:48 PM

V Drive Vibration
 
Thanks much..Can this diagnosis process be done while she is up on blocks
for the winter??


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:46:54 -0500, "John Welsh"
wrote:

I own a 2003, 360 Carver Sedan. I bought it with 14 hours on the Hobbs

and
since found out that during the 14 hours the boat was ran aground by an
inept operator. (I found this out not by the dealer, of course, but by a
fellow boater who watched the whole grizzly episode.
I have noticed that when I power up to 2200 rpm the boat vibrates
momentarily then smoothes out. I have had the dealer check the problem

out
and was told that it was just the underwater mufflers causing the

vibration.
Thinking that was a load of BS I made enquires to several marinas about

the
problem. They told me it could be a slight bend in the shaft which would
seriously effect the knuckle joint in the V drive. This could be

thousands
($13000) to fix should it give out completely!!
Can anyone advise me of any experiences or knowledge of this type

occurrence
with the V drive.

Thanks


Well, you should have your driveline checked including balancing your
props, checking the struts, your engine alignment and have your shafts
checked to see if they are true.
Maybe check the engine alignment before your shafts are pulled just to
see if something is out of wack.

I'd still have all of it checked just for peace of mind.

This will involve more than listening to the mufflers.




John Welsh December 23rd 03 07:48 PM

V Drive Vibration
 
Thanks much..Can this diagnosis process be done while she is up on blocks
for the winter??


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:46:54 -0500, "John Welsh"
wrote:

I own a 2003, 360 Carver Sedan. I bought it with 14 hours on the Hobbs

and
since found out that during the 14 hours the boat was ran aground by an
inept operator. (I found this out not by the dealer, of course, but by a
fellow boater who watched the whole grizzly episode.
I have noticed that when I power up to 2200 rpm the boat vibrates
momentarily then smoothes out. I have had the dealer check the problem

out
and was told that it was just the underwater mufflers causing the

vibration.
Thinking that was a load of BS I made enquires to several marinas about

the
problem. They told me it could be a slight bend in the shaft which would
seriously effect the knuckle joint in the V drive. This could be

thousands
($13000) to fix should it give out completely!!
Can anyone advise me of any experiences or knowledge of this type

occurrence
with the V drive.

Thanks


Well, you should have your driveline checked including balancing your
props, checking the struts, your engine alignment and have your shafts
checked to see if they are true.
Maybe check the engine alignment before your shafts are pulled just to
see if something is out of wack.

I'd still have all of it checked just for peace of mind.

This will involve more than listening to the mufflers.




Ken Heaton December 24th 03 02:46 AM

V Drive Vibration
 
Comments below...

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:48:32 -0500, "John Welsh"
wrote:

Thanks much..Can this diagnosis process be done while she is up on blocks
for the winter??


Absolutely. Your boat needs to be out of the water.


Actually, I believe it is normally recommend you check engine to prop shaft
alignment while in the water as apparently many boats change somewhat on the
hard and return to normal when put back in the water.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca


Just make sure you trust in the mechanic(s) who check your boat out.

The vibration might not be anything, but for probably less than a
thousand dollars you will know for sure and have piece of mind.

The real test will be after you get it back in the water, but if your
props are ok, your shafts are straight, your struts not bent and your
engines are aligned, you should be in good shape.

There are people here who know a whole lot more about it than I do and
hopefully, will chime in.

While they are doing all that, you might want to invest in some dripless
seals if you don't already have them.

I purchased the PSS seals from these folks and love the seals.

http://www.pyiinc.com/




Ken Heaton December 24th 03 02:46 AM

V Drive Vibration
 
Comments below...

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:48:32 -0500, "John Welsh"
wrote:

Thanks much..Can this diagnosis process be done while she is up on blocks
for the winter??


Absolutely. Your boat needs to be out of the water.


Actually, I believe it is normally recommend you check engine to prop shaft
alignment while in the water as apparently many boats change somewhat on the
hard and return to normal when put back in the water.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca


Just make sure you trust in the mechanic(s) who check your boat out.

The vibration might not be anything, but for probably less than a
thousand dollars you will know for sure and have piece of mind.

The real test will be after you get it back in the water, but if your
props are ok, your shafts are straight, your struts not bent and your
engines are aligned, you should be in good shape.

There are people here who know a whole lot more about it than I do and
hopefully, will chime in.

While they are doing all that, you might want to invest in some dripless
seals if you don't already have them.

I purchased the PSS seals from these folks and love the seals.

http://www.pyiinc.com/




John Welsh December 24th 03 03:25 PM

V Drive Vibration
 
Thanks again guys. That is some reprieve so I can do a little more research
into a "trustworthy" mechanic over the winter. My concern is that if
another mechanic other than an authorized Carver rep does work on it, will
it compromise the one year comprehensive warranty. I was told by the
service staff at the dealership that even getting it winterized should be
done by Carver so as not to get into warranty problems...Wally, thanks for
the seal info I have printed it out and will keep it with the boat file.

John



"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:46:21 -0400, "Ken Heaton"
wrote:

Comments below...

"WaIIy" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:48:32 -0500, "John Welsh"
wrote:

Thanks much..Can this diagnosis process be done while she is up on

blocks
for the winter??


Absolutely. Your boat needs to be out of the water.


Actually, I believe it is normally recommend you check engine to prop

shaft
alignment while in the water as apparently many boats change somewhat on

the
hard and return to normal when put back in the water.


Excellent advice and you're quite correct. I wasn't thinking. I never
check mine out of the water.




John Welsh December 24th 03 03:25 PM

V Drive Vibration
 
Thanks again guys. That is some reprieve so I can do a little more research
into a "trustworthy" mechanic over the winter. My concern is that if
another mechanic other than an authorized Carver rep does work on it, will
it compromise the one year comprehensive warranty. I was told by the
service staff at the dealership that even getting it winterized should be
done by Carver so as not to get into warranty problems...Wally, thanks for
the seal info I have printed it out and will keep it with the boat file.

John



"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:46:21 -0400, "Ken Heaton"
wrote:

Comments below...

"WaIIy" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:48:32 -0500, "John Welsh"
wrote:

Thanks much..Can this diagnosis process be done while she is up on

blocks
for the winter??


Absolutely. Your boat needs to be out of the water.


Actually, I believe it is normally recommend you check engine to prop

shaft
alignment while in the water as apparently many boats change somewhat on

the
hard and return to normal when put back in the water.


Excellent advice and you're quite correct. I wasn't thinking. I never
check mine out of the water.





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