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cavelamb himself[_4_] August 17th 07 09:01 AM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
You have to see this modern mess to believe it.

The "spill Proof" safety gas can.

No vent! So it's safe!

Actually, it vents through the spout.

S L O W L Y, as you might expect.

I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.


Capt. JG August 17th 07 06:14 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...
You have to see this modern mess to believe it.

The "spill Proof" safety gas can.

No vent! So it's safe!

Actually, it vents through the spout.

S L O W L Y, as you might expect.

I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.



You can speed it up two ways, although I don't recommend either.

1) Get an ice pick and a fire extinguisher 1a) Put out cigar before starting
(nuff said).
2) Pick up the can and as you hold it as though to pour, start swirling the
contents in circular fashion. As the gas starts to spin around inside the
container, it will drain a lot faster than by letting it go chug, chug,
chug. 2a) Put out cigar before starting 2b) Have a fire-extinguisher handy.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wilbur Hubbard August 17th 07 07:49 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...
You have to see this modern mess to believe it.

The "spill Proof" safety gas can.

No vent! So it's safe!

Actually, it vents through the spout.

S L O W L Y, as you might expect.

I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.


Hint: the only difference between a gasoline jug and a water jug is the
color. Buy water jugs which still have conventional spouts and use them
for gasoline. Spray paint them red if it makes you feel better about it.
Or just get extra water caps and spouts and change them out for the fuel
spouts.

Wilbur Hubbard


Rosalie B. August 17th 07 11:09 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:


"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...
You have to see this modern mess to believe it.

The "spill Proof" safety gas can.

No vent! So it's safe!

Actually, it vents through the spout.

S L O W L Y, as you might expect.

I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.


Hint: the only difference between a gasoline jug and a water jug is the
color. Buy water jugs which still have conventional spouts and use them
for gasoline. Spray paint them red if it makes you feel better about it.
Or just get extra water caps and spouts and change them out for the fuel
spouts.


First of all it shouldn't be glass (which is what I think of when you
call it a jug). Second the color isn't the only difference. Gasoline
cans should have spark arresters IIRC. And one good reason for having
red ones is that you can never again use it for anything else.



[email protected] August 18th 07 12:40 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Aug 17, 6:09 pm, Rosalie B. wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...
You have to see this modern mess to believe it.


The "spill Proof" safety gas can.


No vent! So it's safe!


Actually, it vents through the spout.



Ebay is your friend:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BLUE-...QQcmdZViewItem

Then add (or make) one of these with a longer hose:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-RA...QQcmdZViewItem

and you will never spill a drop.


S L O W L Y, as you might expect.


I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.


Hint: the only difference between a gasoline jug and a water jug is the
color. Buy water jugs which still have conventional spouts and use them
for gasoline. Spray paint them red if it makes you feel better about it.
Or just get extra water caps and spouts and change them out for the fuel
spouts.


First of all it shouldn't be glass (which is what I think of when you
call it a jug). Second the color isn't the only difference. Gasoline
cans should have spark arresters IIRC. And one good reason for having
red ones is that you can never again use it for anything else.




Richard Casady August 18th 07 10:03 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:01:31 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:

You have to see this modern mess to believe it.

The "spill Proof" safety gas can.

No vent! So it's safe!

Actually, it vents through the spout.

S L O W L Y, as you might expect.

I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.


During WWII in Africa the British has their fuel in soldered cans,
sealed like most canned goods. They leaked a lot.

Casady

Rusty[_2_] August 19th 07 07:29 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
I had one of those on my boat for the outboard, a 2 1/2 gallon. When I was
preparing to leave my boat in Mazatlan for this summer, I emptied the can
into a cruiser's truck gas tank. I didn't want to leave a full can on the
boat. The press-to-fit fitting on the end of the filler tube wouldn't
trigger in the truck's fill pipe so I had to hold it back by hand. What a
mess! I wound up spilling about a gallon of the 2 1/2 gallons on the ground.
There was no other way to do it. 'Spill Proof' is really 'Spill Guaranteed'!
This can had been purchased in California. It's easy to see where to word
'Californicate' came from.

Rusty

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...
You have to see this modern mess to believe it.

The "spill Proof" safety gas can.

No vent! So it's safe!

Actually, it vents through the spout.

S L O W L Y, as you might expect.

I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.



numlock August 19th 07 08:33 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
I like the spill-proof gas cans. I fill my inflatable outboard (internal
gas tank) when it runs out of fuel--pitching up and down in mid-bay or
channel. The spout fits right in the tank and I don't spill a drop even tho
the boat is bouncing up and down, etc.

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...
You have to see this modern mess to believe it.

The "spill Proof" safety gas can.

No vent! So it's safe!

Actually, it vents through the spout.

S L O W L Y, as you might expect.

I went looking to buy a gas can and this is all I can find locally.




cavelamb himself[_4_] August 19th 07 09:31 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
Rusty wrote:
I had one of those on my boat for the outboard, a 2 1/2 gallon. When I
was preparing to leave my boat in Mazatlan for this summer, I emptied
the can into a cruiser's truck gas tank. I didn't want to leave a full
can on the boat. The press-to-fit fitting on the end of the filler tube
wouldn't trigger in the truck's fill pipe so I had to hold it back by
hand. What a mess! I wound up spilling about a gallon of the 2 1/2
gallons on the ground. There was no other way to do it. 'Spill Proof' is
really 'Spill Guaranteed'! This can had been purchased in California.
It's easy to see where to word 'Californicate' came from.

Rusty


I could find nothing else in a plastic can.

Not a single store with a proper vented plastic gas can!!!

So I bought one and cut the end off of the spout, removing the
"press to mess" valve.

It works now - sorta - but is still very slow.

I think a blue or green can - with a vent! - may be in order...

Ernest Scribbler August 19th 07 09:54 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
"numlock" wrote
inflatable outboard


I have got to get me one of those...



Richard Casady August 20th 07 01:53 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:46:56 -0400, wrote:

The world of car and motorcycle racing uses vented "fast fill" plastic jugs.


Never saw any vented cans, at the sprint car races, just five gallon
square or round ones with a big opening. They sell them at the closest
auto parts store, which is not a racing shop. They don't need a vent.
The fill rate is determined by the pump on the methanol truck. They
empty fast enough. Of course most sprint car races are four miles
long, occasionally ten, and there is no such thing as a pit stop. That
is why they call them sprint cars.

Casady

cavelamb himself[_4_] August 20th 07 06:51 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:53:21 GMT,
(Richard
Casady) wrote:


On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:46:56 -0400,
wrote:


The world of car and motorcycle racing uses vented "fast fill" plastic jugs.


Never saw any vented cans, at the sprint car races, just five gallon
square or round ones with a big opening. They sell them at the closest
auto parts store, which is not a racing shop. They don't need a vent.
The fill rate is determined by the pump on the methanol truck. They
empty fast enough. Of course most sprint car races are four miles
long, occasionally ten, and there is no such thing as a pit stop. That
is why they call them sprint cars.

Casady




Do agoogle search for

"plastic fuel jugs"

include the quote marks. You'll find a ton of VENTED fuel jugs as
described. You will NOT find these at any regular auto parts store as
they are illegal for general use. They are racing specific, and I
promise you they are vented.

Here's one example:

http://cometkartsales.com/store/fuel/fjf.htm


They are also on ebay from various vendors.


I'm kind of confused about that...

WHY would a vengted can be illegal?


Richard Casady August 20th 07 07:02 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:09:32 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:53:21 GMT,
(Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:46:56 -0400,
wrote:

The world of car and motorcycle racing uses vented "fast fill" plastic jugs.


Never saw any vented cans, at the sprint car races, just five gallon
square or round ones with a big opening. They sell them at the closest
auto parts store, which is not a racing shop. They don't need a vent.
The fill rate is determined by the pump on the methanol truck. They
empty fast enough. Of course most sprint car races are four miles
long, occasionally ten, and there is no such thing as a pit stop. That
is why they call them sprint cars.

Casady



Do agoogle search for

"plastic fuel jugs"

include the quote marks. You'll find a ton of VENTED fuel jugs as
described. You will NOT find these at any regular auto parts store as
they are illegal for general use. They are racing specific, and I
promise you they are vented.


Wrong on both counts. They came from a regular general purpose parts
store. and they are unvented. They have a real big opening and don't
need a vent to empty fast. The closest vendor of gas to where I live.
has racing gas, for about five bucks a gallon. There are lots of
racers around these parts.

Happens I have the sprint car and the unvented jugs. Close to five
gallons burned in a four mile race. Its a rolling start, [there is no
clutch], and that uses extra fuel.

Casady

David Scheidt August 20th 07 07:17 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
cavelamb himself wrote:

:I'm kind of confused about that...

:WHY would a vengted can be illegal?

They're a substantial source of air polution. Really. Spilling an
ounce of gasoline while filling your lawnmower generates as much
unburned hydrocarbons as burning the fuel in the tank mowing the lawn.
Unburned hydrocarbons are a major contributor to smog.


numlock August 20th 07 07:21 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 

"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message
...
"numlock" wrote
inflatable outboard


I have got to get me one of those...


It works for me! You'll love it. I got mine at Wal-Mart--shelves full of
em.

numlock



Richard Casady August 20th 07 08:48 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:15:38 -0400, wrote:

are beginning to get a reputation as a very loud person who knows
very little. Go look at the PHOTOS of the jugs, idgit. They clearly
have VENTS. Says so in the ad copy as well, abnd they even sell
REPLACEMENT vents for when yours won't snap closed any longer.


What are you talking about. I have the unvented jugs in my possession.
Look at a picture of something else? Whatever for? You are the
loadmouth who knows little, not me. One more time: I own some
unvented jugs. From a general auto store, not a racing specialist. We
do have those as well.

ONE LAST TIME. I POSSESS UNVENTED FUEL JUGS. PARDON ME, BUT I DON'T
BELIEVE A THING YOU SAY.

Casady

Richard Casady August 20th 07 11:51 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:47:05 GMT, wrote:

Yes, I own some unvented jugs as well. That's not what is under discussion.

Sure it is. Someone claimed that they somehow don't exist
Nobody gives a fig about your imaginary sprint car.

No reason they should, but it is hardly imaginary. I wouldn't own the
jugs if I didn't have the car.

Casady

Richard Casady August 20th 07 11:52 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:47:05 GMT, wrote:

Take your meds. You seriously need them.

Nothing like a bit of ad hominem.
Casady

Richard Casady August 21st 07 05:49 AM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:49:57 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:51:12 GMT,
(Richard Casady)
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:47:05 GMT,
wrote:

Yes, I own some unvented jugs as well. That's not what is under discussion.

Sure it is. Someone claimed that they somehow don't exist


Nobody claimed that unvented gas jugs don't exist. You really are a looney.


Of course someone did. Is your server eating some of the posts?

And I quote:

"You'll find a ton of VENTED fuel jugs as
described. You will NOT find these at any regular auto parts store as
they are illegal for general use. They are racing specific, and I
promise you they are vented."

There you have it My unvented jugs came from a general purpose parts
house. They look just like a giant bleach bottle, complete with the
handle. Three inch mouth.The illegal for general use bit is just BS.
Every racing jug I ever saw was unvented, but that was years ago.
Perhaps they are suddenly all different now, but somehow I doubt that.

Nobody gives a fig about your imaginary sprint car.

No reason they should, but it is hardly imaginary. I wouldn't own the
jugs if I didn't have the car.


Oh, the jugs are imaginary just like the sprint car. I'll bet your friend the 6
foot invisible rabbit doubles as your pit crew.


He does all the shoplifting for the team. Actually there is no pit
crew, I parked the cars in 96. Sport went nuts and introduced titanium
nuts and bolts.and crap like that, and costs got out of hand. I should
have sold all the stuff long ago, actually. Only raced one season.
At Knoxville Iowa, the sprint car capital of the world. The feature
paid a grand for the 360 class. Not enough to make any actual dough.

I might be wasting my time at this group. Too much misinformation.

Casady

Richard Casady August 21st 07 02:47 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:03:37 -0400, wrote:

I have given the correct information for anyone who wishes to buy a
vented fuel jug.


I will continue to use what I have and will buy them where I got the
ones I have, the unvented ones. They sell them at the closest parts
house. I heard right on this group that there are some unsatisfactory
vented ones out there, and you, or anyone else. are welcome to
recommend them if you wish. We do have vented cans, from WalMart, for
the gas for the lawn mower. No problems of the kind reported by one
poster.

I notice your personal web site is just chock full of pictures of you and your
sprint car


I have no website. I simply have little interest. Maybe one would come
in handy at times, but it always seemed more trouble than It is worth.

I guess it's only natural that someone who constantly mentions "his
sprint car" at every opportunity, all over usenet,


How do you figure? That is simply a lie. I go whole months without
even thinking of the cars.

would have pages and pages of photos of this magnificent vehicle.


Why bother? It's just an ordinary sprinter. Throughly obsolete at this
point.

Wouldn't do anything for me if I did have the pix. I lost interest in
racing it more than a decade ago. Why do you care enough about my car
to carry on about it? A lack of interest I could understand, but I
only made a casual reference in passing. I was trying to discuss fuel
jugs.

As for fuel, I would like to know how to refuel my boat from a can.
The fill openings are on the outside of the boat, below the gunnels,
and very hard to reach from inside the boat.. You need a small crane
to support the jug. Fortunately, I mostly fill it at the gas station,
while the boat is on the trailer. As it is, I guess I could use a
strange and very long funnel.


Vic Smith August 21st 07 03:23 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:47:55 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

I guess it's only natural that someone who constantly mentions "his
sprint car" at every opportunity, all over usenet,


How do you figure? That is simply a lie. I go whole months without
even thinking of the cars.

Richard, it's probably best to not give much attention to people who
can't work out how to pour gas from a can without spilling it.

As for fuel, I would like to know how to refuel my boat from a can.
The fill openings are on the outside of the boat, below the gunnels,
and very hard to reach from inside the boat.. You need a small crane
to support the jug. Fortunately, I mostly fill it at the gas station,
while the boat is on the trailer. As it is, I guess I could use a
strange and very long funnel.


Might somehow attach a second filler tube inside the boat, but it
could be tricky to do it safely.

--Vic

Richard Casady August 21st 07 04:19 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:23:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Richard, it's probably best to not give much attention to people who
can't work out how to pour gas from a can without spilling it.


Good point. Maybe I should apologise for wasting the bandwidth.
I am beginning to suspect he might be an asshole, as well.

As for fuel, I would like to know how to refuel my boat from a can.
The fill openings are on the outside of the boat, below the gunnels,
and very hard to reach from inside the boat.. You need a small crane
to support the jug. Fortunately, I mostly fill it at the gas station,
while the boat is on the trailer. As it is, I guess I could use a
strange and very long funnel.


Might somehow attach a second filler tube inside the boat, but it
could be tricky to do it safely.


It is the safety issue, the reason they are where they are.

I paid two grand for a 22 foot runabout. I wouldn't call that nice
locker foreward a cabin, tiny bunks or no. A 175 gas sterndrive came
with it. I refuse to spend about twenty grand putting in a diesel, but
one would be nice.
I live with the gas. Hell I used to hold big firecrackers in my hand,
and it says not to, right on them. For that matter, high explosives
like dynamite or TNT blocks, are labeled "dangerous". No ****.
The boat does have a bilge blower, and I generally open the motor lid.
There are never any fumes, in any case. No fuel leaks under cover.
Yet. I saw a boat go boom, blew the only man aboard over the side
nearly uninjured. Plastic, it burned to the waterline in next to no
time. My boat is metal, but it wouldn't be any good afterward, if
fifty gallons of fuel burned. Probably melt some of the aluminum.

Casady

Richard Casady August 21st 07 04:30 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:57:18 GMT, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:47:55 GMT,
(Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:03:37 -0400,
wrote:


I notice your personal web site is just chock full of pictures of you and your
sprint car




I have no website. I simply have little interest. Maybe one would come
in handy at times, but it always seemed more trouble than It is worth.


http://www.beckycasady.com/whereinth...ady/index.html


And before you claim that that isn't you, the Richard Casady on that
website has the same email address as you.


I didn't know the wife had a website. Perhaps I could use it, I would
have to ask.
Anyone can put my name on some website, but that does not make the
site mine. She didn't ask.

So now you are a confirmed liar. Nuff said. Game. Set. Match.


If that makes you feel good to say that go right ahead.

Buh-Bye!


I certainly hope so.

Casady


Wayne.B August 21st 07 05:21 PM

Spill-proof gas cans
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:23:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Might somehow attach a second filler tube inside the boat, but it
could be tricky to do it safely.


Really bad idea.

The reason that the fill tube is on the outside is to prevent fumes
and/or spilled fuel from accumulating in the boat or cockpit.


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